Andy9o8 3 #51 November 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteAh, another "Muslims are scary; check under your beds and hide your daughters" thread. How original. And to cap it off, Pat Robertson - now there's a credible spokesman. Yeah, I'm persuaded. see "Nidal Hasan", proper name. Cute. As if it needs to be explained, there's a big difference between "That crazy guy, who is Muslim, is scary", and "Muslims are scary". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #52 November 13, 2009 >OK Bill, I'm calling you out for a personal attack. It was indeed a personal attack. And if Pat Robertson posted here, it would be against the rules. Last time I checked, though, he wasn't much of a Speaker's Corner poster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #53 November 13, 2009 >see "Nidal Hasan", proper name. See "Timothy McVeigh" "Eric Harris" "Dylan Klebold" and "Seung-Hui Cho." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 November 13, 2009 Quote>see "Nidal Hasan", proper name. See "Timothy McVeigh" "Eric Harris" "Dylan Klebold" and "Seung-Hui Cho." None of whom were in contact with radical elements. Hasan had contacted AQ several times, as well as preaching jihad during grand rounds and having "Soldier of Allah" on his calling card.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #55 November 13, 2009 >None of whom were in contact with radical elements. And none of whom were Muslims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #56 November 13, 2009 Quote>None of whom were in contact with radical elements. And none of whom were Muslims. That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #57 November 13, 2009 >That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims. Agreed! They were, however, all murderers. And to me, that's the big deal; that's what makes them all despicable. Not their religion, race or nationality. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #58 November 13, 2009 Quote >That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims. Agreed! They were, however, all murderers. And to me, that's the big deal; that's what makes them all despicable. Not their religion, race or nationality. Hmmm but if the same religion keep's killing people in the name of there religion then you should start to question them???? Then the "majority" of the religion wont call the "extremist" out.... Or do you lib's just kep turn the blind eye? Don't answer i know the answer....It's obvious. Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #59 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote >see "Nidal Hasan", proper name. See "Timothy McVeigh" "Eric Harris" "Dylan Klebold" and "Seung-Hui Cho." None of whom were in contact with radical elements. Hasan had contacted AQ several times, as well as preaching jihad during grand rounds and having "Soldier of Allah" on his calling card. Mmm yeeeeeah.. why would ANYONE ever think that Timothy McVeigh would not be considered a radical element.. he just knew some people right.... just good conservatives right Mikeehttp://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/03/29/profile.mcveigh/ Although both Arizona and Michigan are host to militant anti-tax, anti-government, survivalist and racist groups, there is no evidence that he ever belonged to any extremist groups. He advertised to sell a weapon in what is described as a virulently anti-Semitic publication. After renting a Ryder truck that has been linked to the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh telephoned a religious community that preaches white supremacy, but no one there can remember knowing him or talking to him. His only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days, and as a member of the National Rifle Association while he was in the Army. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #60 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote >see "Nidal Hasan", proper name. See "Timothy McVeigh" "Eric Harris" "Dylan Klebold" and "Seung-Hui Cho." None of whom were in contact with radical elements. Hasan had contacted AQ several times, as well as preaching jihad during grand rounds and having "Soldier of Allah" on his calling card. Mmm yeeeeeah.. why would ANYONE ever think that Timothy McVeigh would not be considered a radical element.. he just knew some people right.... just good conservatives right Mikeehttp://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/03/29/profile.mcveigh/ Although both Arizona and Michigan are host to militant anti-tax, anti-government, survivalist and racist groups, there is no evidence that he ever belonged to any extremist groups. He advertised to sell a weapon in what is described as a virulently anti-Semitic publication. After renting a Ryder truck that has been linked to the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh telephoned a religious community that preaches white supremacy, but no one there can remember knowing him or talking to him. His only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days, and as a member of the National Rifle Association while he was in the Army. Figures that YOU would think being a GOP member (he switched parties after NY, btw) and an NRA member would be 'radical elements'. Too bad you didn't read the FIRST sentence of your quote in your tearing rush to emphasize the last one.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #61 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote >see "Nidal Hasan", proper name. See "Timothy McVeigh" "Eric Harris" "Dylan Klebold" and "Seung-Hui Cho." None of whom were in contact with radical elements. Hasan had contacted AQ several times, as well as preaching jihad during grand rounds and having "Soldier of Allah" on his calling card. Mmm yeeeeeah.. why would ANYONE ever think that Timothy McVeigh would not be considered a radical element.. he just knew some people right.... just good conservatives right Mikeehttp://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/03/29/profile.mcveigh/ Although both Arizona and Michigan are host to militant anti-tax, anti-government, survivalist and racist groups, there is no evidence that he ever belonged to any extremist groups. He advertised to sell a weapon in what is described as a virulently anti-Semitic publicationAfter renting a Ryder truck that has been linked to the Oklahoma City bombing, McVeigh telephoned a religious community that preaches white supremacy, but no one there can remember knowing him or talking to him.. His only known affiliations are as a registered Republican in his New York days, and as a member of the National Rifle Association while he was in the Army. Figures that YOU would think being a GOP member (he switched parties after NY, btw) and an NRA member would be 'radical elements'. It figures YOU would glass over the affiliations of the people he got help from..not to mention.. he switched to being a libertarian.. like so many ofour fellow posters who supported Bush so vociferously the last 8 years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh McVeigh introduced his sister to anti-government literature, but his father had little interest in these views. ................ He also quit the NRA, viewing its stance on gun rights to be too weak McVeigh spent more time on the gun show circuit, traveling to 40 of the 50 states and visiting about 80 gun shows in all. McVeigh found that the further west he went, the more anti-government sentiment he encountered, at least until he got to what he called "The People's Socialist Republic of California."[31] McVeigh sold survival items and copies of The Turner Diaries. Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #62 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote >That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims. Agreed! They were, however, all murderers. And to me, that's the big deal; that's what makes them all despicable. Not their religion, race or nationality. Hmmm but if the same religion keep's killing people in the name of there religion then you should start to question them???? Then the "majority" of the religion wont call the "extremist" out.... Or do you lib's just kep turn the blind eye? Don't answer i know the answer....It's obvious. Did you ever think that we might give them the exact same impression? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6740735.ece Does our "majority" call our extremists out? Some. Do they hear about it? No. See the pattern here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #63 November 13, 2009 Quote Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there They must have read some of your rants about conservatives.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #64 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote >That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims. Agreed! They were, however, all murderers. And to me, that's the big deal; that's what makes them all despicable. Not their religion, race or nationality. Hmmm but if the same religion keep's killing people in the name of there religion then you should start to question them???? Then the "majority" of the religion wont call the "extremist" out.... Or do you lib's just kep turn the blind eye? Don't answer i know the answer....It's obvious. Did you ever think that we might give them the exact same impression? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6740735.ece Does our "majority" call our extremists out? Some. Do they hear about it? No. See the pattern here? I didn't know Blackwater was a religion.... Nice try! BTW Muslim extremist are a bigger problem in the EU than here. Maybe you should quote from somewhere else!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #65 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there They must have read some of your rants about conservatives. Yeah right Mikee.. there just a couple more dickweeds who were just a little too fascinated with guns and other good anti government conservative values Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #66 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there They must have read some of your rants about conservatives. Yeah right Mikee.. there just a couple more dickweeds who were just a little too fascinated with guns and other good anti government conservative values And to think, I have wondered why other's have not tried to hold a real conversation with you.... Yea even I slip sometimes .......... Other Yankee's should be proud of your representation.....Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #67 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote >That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims. Agreed! They were, however, all murderers. And to me, that's the big deal; that's what makes them all despicable. Not their religion, race or nationality. Hmmm but if the same religion keep's killing people in the name of there religion then you should start to question them???? Then the "majority" of the religion wont call the "extremist" out.... Or do you lib's just kep turn the blind eye? Don't answer i know the answer....It's obvious. Did you ever think that we might give them the exact same impression? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6740735.ece Does our "majority" call our extremists out? Some. Do they hear about it? No. See the pattern here? I didn't know Blackwater was a religion.... Nice try! BTW Muslim extremist are a bigger problem in the EU than here. Maybe you should quote from somewhere else! do you seriously not understand how they us the exact same way? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #68 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there They must have read some of your rants about conservatives. Yeah right Mikee.. there just a couple more dickweeds who were just a little too fascinated with guns and other good anti government conservative values And to think, I have wondered why other's have not tried to hold a real conversation with you.... Yea even I slip sometimes .......... Other Yankee's should be proud of your representation..... Hey when the cowboy boots fit so perfectly.. you Texicans seem to wear them SOOOOOO well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #69 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there They must have read some of your rants about conservatives. Yeah right Mikee.. there just a couple more dickweeds who were just a little too fascinated with guns and other good anti government conservative values And to think, I have wondered why other's have not tried to hold a real conversation with you.... Yea even I slip sometimes .......... Other Yankee's should be proud of your representation..... Hey when the cowboy boots fit so perfectly.. you Texicans seem to wear them SOOOOOO well. Then you prove my point again.... Bravo!Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #70 November 13, 2009 QuoteI found this to be a disturbing video. Makes me wonder how the actions taken by the Muslim crowd would/will be handled in our country? Allowing bombs and rocks to be thrown, with the cops sitting idly by, is not a prescription for continued civil society. In the U.S.? I'm absolutely sure we have nothing to worry about. Here is a story about a nice young Marine that attacked a Greek priest because he looked Muslim. Apparently, in the U.S., one has to be on their guard for simply looking like a member of the hate-of-the-day club. Imagine what could have happened if the Greek fellow really was a Muslim! QuoteTAMPA — Marine reservist Jasen Bruce was getting clothes out of the trunk of his car Monday evening when a bearded man in a robe approached him. That man, a Greek Orthodox priest named Father Alexios Marakis, speaks little English and was lost, police said. He wanted directions. What the priest got instead, police say, was a tire iron to the head. Then he was chased for three blocks and pinned to the ground — as the Marine kept a 911 operator on the phone, saying he had captured a terrorist. Police say Bruce offered several reasons to explain his actions: The man tried to rob him. The man grabbed Bruce's crotch and made an overt sexual advance in perfect English. The man yelled "Allahu Akbar," Arabic for "God is great," the same words some witnesses said the Fort Hood shooting suspect uttered last week. "That's what they tell you right before they blow you up," police say Bruce told them. Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #71 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote Oh and those two little points of sweetness and light... in Colorado..wanted to outdo McVeigh...and had some"interesting"ideas about natural selection....nope no radicals there They must have read some of your rants about conservatives. Yeah right Mikee.. there just a couple more dickweeds who were just a little too fascinated with guns and other good anti government conservative values And to think, I have wondered why other's have not tried to hold a real conversation with you.... Yea even I slip sometimes .......... Other Yankee's should be proud of your representation..... Hey when the cowboy boots fit so perfectly.. you Texicans seem to wear them SOOOOOO well. Then you prove my point again.... Bravo! QUACK QUACK QUACK Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #72 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote >That's correct; neither McVeigh, Harris, Klebold or Cho were Muslims. Agreed! They were, however, all murderers. And to me, that's the big deal; that's what makes them all despicable. Not their religion, race or nationality. Hmmm but if the same religion keep's killing people in the name of there religion then you should start to question them???? Then the "majority" of the religion wont call the "extremist" out.... Or do you lib's just kep turn the blind eye? Don't answer i know the answer....It's obvious. Did you ever think that we might give them the exact same impression? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6740735.ece Does our "majority" call our extremists out? Some. Do they hear about it? No. See the pattern here? I didn't know Blackwater was a religion.... Nice try! BTW Muslim extremist are a bigger problem in the EU than here. Maybe you should quote from somewhere else! do you seriously not understand how they us the exact same way? Are you going to seriously reply to me again and act like you know what your talking about? Please if you want to act like you know what your talking about, then at least come out with it instead of this liberal code BS! I don't have time to decipher your BS. Or if Amazon, Kallend, Lucky, or Dreamworld can figure it out then let me know.Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #73 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Robertson was one of the original spokesmen of the Charismatic Movement in the '80s. At that time the Satanic faith was Secular Humanism. The Muslims have moved into the foreground of perception. He was the son of a senator and could have probably done quite well in any field he chose. He gave up his privilege of birth for his Christian faith. Secular Humanism is a loosely-organized flavor of atheism which promotes ethics, justice, and logic as the basis of human morality, and rejects theism, religion and the supernatural. Calling it "Satanic" is a joke at best; although I'm not surprised, because born-agains and other religious hyper-actives feel threatened by it, so they need to attack it. As for Pat Robertson, he didn't give up any privilege; he simply re-cast it. For example: Quote Former Republican Congressman Paul "Pete" McCloskey, Jr., who served with Robertson in Korea, claimed that Robertson was actually spared combat duty when his powerful father, a U.S. Senator, intervened on his behalf, claiming that instead Robertson spent most of his time in an office in Japan. According to McCloskey, his time in the service was not in combat but as the "liquor officer" responsible for keeping the officers' clubs supplied with liquor. There he also was known to drink liquors himself and to frequent prostitutes -- consequently, he even feared that he had contracted gonorrhea. Source. Robertson has spent the better part of his career as a self-serving media whore and whacko - not too different from many politicians, probably; but in his case he disguised himself by wrapping himself in the cloak of clergy. Anyhow, I'm glad we could find something on which we could see closely eye-to-eye. Likewise. Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #74 November 13, 2009 QuotePat Robertson is a fuck. I doubt that he way speak that way about you. He bought two skydives for me back in 1984. One was at Z'hills and the other at Pilot Country. The occasion was my featured guest appearance on the 700 Club.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #75 November 13, 2009 From today's Tampa Tribune, citizens are wary to say the least. http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/nov/13/sp-census-to-create-thousands-of-temporary-jobs-in/ Quote.... The 2010 census will be the first one since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. That, along with fears of home intruders, could make it harder to conduct the census, as many people these days don't open their doors to strangers. "There's a new feeling in the community," she said. "A lot of us have gotten a lot more afraid, a lot more cautious." I worked the 2000 Census. I'll pass this go round.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
