Andrewwhyte 1 #26 November 12, 2009 Quote>Disagree with someone with opinions differing from yours, mine >or anybodies does not make on a bigot. Correct. But thinking an entire religion should be excluded from government office is. Fuck. I guess I'm a bigot. I think they all should be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #27 November 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote .... Jesus Christ - rushmc: Do you even know about what/to whom you are barking? - A spokesman? - billvon? - yourself? Outbursts like that are not healthy. You should know Me? Why? Am I your unpaid mind reader? You, my dear, should know when and where to jump in fully unarmed. Ask your like-minded people. They are where, BTW?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #28 November 12, 2009 Quote>The reason you do that is because YOU want the PC shit to use to back your views. RushMC, 2008: "But, to follow, I think Obama is a racist bigot." RushMC, 2009: "I have read the entire thing. In context, she (Sotomayor) is a bigot at the very least and and racists at worst." Pot, meet kettle. For the judge this stems from ACTIONS sir. What she DID shows this to be true. Same for Obama. And, I was not talking to them like you talk to any of us here. You on the other hand use this PC crap locally as a big stick. Pot and kettle are here, just not like you point them out to be"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #29 November 12, 2009 > What she DID shows this to be true. So you condemn her for what she said - but you give Robertson a pass on what he said because you support his politics. Your bias is showing again. >And, I was not talking to them like you talk to any of us here. RushMC: "But, to follow, I think Obama is a racist bigot." RushMC: "In context, she (Sotomayor) is a bigot at the very least and and racists at worst." Sucks that your own words are coming back to haunt you, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #30 November 12, 2009 Quote QuoteAnd to cap it off, Pat Robertson - now there's a credible spokesman.. Robertson was one of the original spokesmen of the Charismatic Movement in the '80s. At that time the Satanic faith was Secular Humanism. The Muslims have moved into the foreground of perception. He was the son of a senator and could have probably done quite well in any field he chose. He gave up his privilege of birth for his Christian faith.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Remster 30 #31 November 12, 2009 QuoteQuote QuoteAnd to cap it off, Pat Robertson - now there's a credible spokesman.. Robertson was one of the original spokesmen of the Charismatic Movement in the '80s. At that time the Satanic faith was Secular Humanism. The Muslims have moved into the foreground of perception. He was the son of a senator and could have probably done quite well in any field he chose. He gave up his privilege of birth for his Christian faith. And what a proud example he is!Remster Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #32 November 12, 2009 Quote Quote .... It is a digustion tactic you use and I for one will continue to point it out. Do you care? I doubt it. I sure as hell dont care what you think of me either. You pulled a bull shit tactic. I am sure you will do it again I will breath just fine oh great PC one Jesus Christ - rushmc: Do you even know about what/to whom you are barking? - A spokesman? - billvon? - yourself? Outbursts like that are not healthy. Well, at least he went on long enough for us to figure out whether he meant disgusting tactic or discussion tactic. Digustion was just too much in the middle." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 November 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote .... Jesus Christ - rushmc: Do you even know about what/to whom you are barking? - A spokesman? - billvon? - yourself? Outbursts like that are not healthy. You should know Me? Why? Am I your unpaid mind reader? You, my dear, should know when and where to jump in fully unarmed. Ask your like-minded people. They are where, BTW?? So know there has to be someone who agrees to have your own opinion? You once again make my point for me. BTW, dont worry, I am doing and feeling fine"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 November 12, 2009 Quote> What she DID shows this to be true. So you condemn her for what she said - but you give Robertson a pass on what he said because you support his politics. Your bias is showing again. >And, I was not talking to them like you talk to any of us here. RushMC: "But, to follow, I think Obama is a racist bigot." RushMC: "In context, she (Sotomayor) is a bigot at the very least and and racists at worst." Sucks that your own words are coming back to haunt you, eh? Not the ones about Sotomayor for damned sure. She, by her own actions and admission favored a race in hiring practices that got thrown out by the SC. You have half a point on Robertson but, the majority of the slams made against him (and know I don't agree with him much) are taken out of context. Something you are very good at doing to support your points."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 November 12, 2009 Quote Quote Quote .... It is a digustion tactic you use and I for one will continue to point it out. Do you care? I doubt it. I sure as hell dont care what you think of me either. You pulled a bull shit tactic. I am sure you will do it again I will breath just fine oh great PC one Jesus Christ - rushmc: Do you even know about what/to whom you are barking? - A spokesman? - billvon? - yourself? Outbursts like that are not healthy. Well, at least he went on long enough for us to figure out whether he meant disgusting tactic or discussion tactic. Digustion was just too much in the middle. Someday your sig line may attributed to our current government"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #36 November 12, 2009 Do you think the following is an example of bigoted behavior? QuoteFeds Seize Radical Mosques, NYC Skyscaper Funneling Millions to Iran Thursday, November 12, 2009 5:25 PM NEW YORK -- Federal prosecutors Thursday took steps to seize four U.S. mosques and a Fifth Avenue skyscraper owned by a nonprofit Muslim organization long suspected of being secretly controlled by the Iranian government. In what could prove to be one of the biggest counterterrorism seizures in U.S. history, prosecutors filed a civil complaint in federal court seeking the forfeiture of more than $500 million in assets of the Alavi Foundation and an alleged front company. The assets include Islamic centers in New York City, Maryland, California and Houston, more than 100 acres in Virginia, and a 36-story office tower in New York. Seizing the properties would be a sharp blow against Iran, which has been accused by the U.S. government of bankrolling terrorism and seeking a nuclear bomb. A telephone call and e-mail to Iran's U.N. Mission seeking comment were not immediately answered. It is extremely rare for U.S. law enforcement authorities to seize a house of worship, a step fraught with questions about the First Amendment right to freedom of religion. The action against the Shiite Muslim mosques is sure to inflame relations between the U.S. government and American Muslims, many of whom are fearful of a backlash after last week's Fort Hood shooting rampage, blamed on a Muslim American soldier. The mosques and the office tower will remain open while the forfeiture case works its way through court in what could be a long process. What will happen to them if the government ultimately prevails is unclear. But the government typically sells properties it has seized through forfeiture, and the proceeds are sometimes distributed to crime victims. There were no raids Thursday as part of the forfeiture action. The government is simply required to post notices of the civil complaint on the property. Prosecutors said the Alavi Foundation, through a front company known as Assa Corp., illegally funneled millions in rental income back to Iran's state-owned Bank Melli. Bank Melli has been accused by a U.S. Treasury official of providing support for Iran's nuclear program, and it is illegal in the United States to do business with the bank. Government officials have long suspected the foundation was an arm of the Iranian government; a 97-page complaint details involvement of several top officials in foundation business, including the country's deputy prime minister and ambassadors to the United Nations. "For two decades, the Alavi Foundation's affairs have been directed by various Iranian officials, including Iranian ambassadors to the United Nations, in violation of a series of American laws," U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement. The skyscraper, known as the Piaget building, was erected in the 1970s under the shah of Iran, who was overthrown in 1979. The tenants include law and investment firms and other businesses. The sleek, modern building, last valued at $570 million to $650 million in 2007, has served as important source of income for the foundation over the past 36 years. The most recent tax records show the foundation earned $4.5 million from rents in 2007. Rents collected from the building help fund the centers and other ventures, such as sending imprisoned Muslims in the U.S. educational literature. The foundation has also invested in dozens of mosques around the country and supported Iranian academics at prominent universities. If federal prosecutors seize the skyscraper, the Alavi Foundation would have almost no way to continue supporting the Islamic centers, which house schools and mosques. That could leave a major void in Shiite communities, and hard feelings toward the FBI. Legal scholars who specialize in religious liberty issues said they know of only a few cases in U.S. history in which law enforcement authorities have seized a house of worship. Marc Stern, a religious-liberty expert with the American Jewish Congress, called such cases "extremely rare." The Alavi Foundation is the successor organization to the Pahlavi Foundation, a nonprofit group used by the shah to advance Iran's charitable interests in America. But authorities said its agenda changed after the fall of the shah. In 2007, the United States accused Bank Melli of providing services to Iran's nuclear and ballistic missile programs and put the bank on its list of companies whose assets must be frozen. The United States has imposed sanctions against various other Iranian banks and other businesses. © 2009 Associated Press. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #37 November 12, 2009 >Do you think the following is an example of bigoted behavior? What behavior are you referring to? If it is seizing property for the alleged crime of money laundering, then no, that's not bigoted - it's law enforcement. (Provided, of course, that they had reasonable cause to do so.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 November 12, 2009 Quote>Do you think the following is an example of bigoted behavior? What behavior are you referring to? If it is seizing property for the alleged crime of money laundering, then no, that's not bigoted - it's law enforcement. (Provided, of course, that they had reasonable cause to do so.) But but but, is was Muslims property!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #39 November 12, 2009 The sky is falling too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #40 November 13, 2009 >But but but, is was Muslims property! You indicate a remarkable level of misunderstanding if you think the situations are at all similar. I suspect it's intentional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #41 November 13, 2009 Quote Quote Quote And to cap it off, Pat Robertson - now there's a credible spokesman. . Robertson was one of the original spokesmen of the Charismatic Movement in the '80s. At that time the Satanic faith was Secular Humanism. The Muslims have moved into the foreground of perception. . When I was growing up in the '80s the Big Satanic Threat was the game Dungeons and Dragons. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #42 November 13, 2009 Quote When I was growing up in the '80s the Big Satanic Threat was the game Dungeons and Dragons. A minor Satanic threat only. It influenced children. Secular humanism was/is political and therefore shaped/shapes society.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #43 November 13, 2009 and don't forget the Harry Potter books & movies! Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,649 #44 November 13, 2009 QuoteRobertson was one of the original spokesmen of the Charismatic Movement in the '80s. At that time the Satanic faith was Secular Humanism. The Muslims have moved into the foreground of perception. He was the son of a senator and could have probably done quite well in any field he chose. He gave up his privilege of birth for his Christian faith. Seems to me like he's done quite well as it is! So what privileges has the multi-millionare Pat Robertson* given up for his Christian faith? * Lowest estimate $200M net worth.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #45 November 13, 2009 Quote Robertson was one of the original spokesmen of the Charismatic Movement in the '80s. At that time the Satanic faith was Secular Humanism. The Muslims have moved into the foreground of perception. He was the son of a senator and could have probably done quite well in any field he chose. He gave up his privilege of birth for his Christian faith. Secular Humanism is a loosely-organized flavor of atheism which promotes ethics, justice, and logic as the basis of human morality, and rejects theism, religion and the supernatural. Calling it "Satanic" is a joke at best; although I'm not surprised, because born-agains and other religious hyper-actives feel threatened by it, so they need to attack it. As for Pat Robertson, he didn't give up any privilege; he simply re-cast it. For example: Quote Former Republican Congressman Paul "Pete" McCloskey, Jr., who served with Robertson in Korea, claimed that Robertson was actually spared combat duty when his powerful father, a U.S. Senator, intervened on his behalf, claiming that instead Robertson spent most of his time in an office in Japan. According to McCloskey, his time in the service was not in combat but as the "liquor officer" responsible for keeping the officers' clubs supplied with liquor. There he also was known to drink liquors himself and to frequent prostitutes -- consequently, he even feared that he had contracted gonorrhea. Source. Robertson has spent the better part of his career as a self-serving media whore and whacko - not too different from many politicians, probably; but in his case he disguised himself by wrapping himself in the cloak of clergy. Anyhow, I'm glad we could find something on which we could see closely eye-to-eye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #46 November 13, 2009 I think he was on a ship headed to Korea when he got the "change of station". When it came out later in life, it ruined his political chances.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #47 November 13, 2009 My tendency is to support the First Amendment. Yes, all of it. Unlike many, I believe that even Pat Robertson and Muslims should be left alone to practice their religion. Some people think that Muslims are too much of a threat to leave them alone. I agree that they are a bigger threat now than other religious faiths. I also don't give a shit. The First Amendment is not qualified. I also have the tendency to support the right to say anything you want to say. Some people think that NeoNazis should not be allowed to speak in public - they might cause a riot! Gee - tye same damned argument as used against Muslims, Christians, etc. Let them speak. If they cause harm, make them suffer the consequences. (Tom Metzger isn't much of a voice anymore). So PC is allowing Muslims to take over. Here's a thought - get to know some. (Ever been to a Persian wedding? WOW!) Some Muslim shoots up a place? Arrest him. Try him. Penalize him. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #48 November 13, 2009 Pat Robertson is a fuck. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #49 November 13, 2009 QuoteAh, another "Muslims are scary; check under your beds and hide your daughters" thread. How original. And to cap it off, Pat Robertson - now there's a credible spokesman. Yeah, I'm persuaded. see "Nidal Hasan", proper name.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #50 November 13, 2009 Quote>ah yes, the biggot flag from you right off the bat. It's not a bigot "flag." He is in fact a bigot. OK Bill, I'm calling you out for a personal attack. Ban yourself now!!Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
