Quote for the day by a Moderate GOPer

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Quote by former Republican Rep Tom Davis of Virginia, an outspoken moderate: "Any Democrat from a border or Southern or even a rural district has got to take a deep breath and look for some ways to get some distance from Obama". http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/29116 Can't you feel the love?

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

[rushmc 23]

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Quote by former Republican Rep Tom Davis of Virginia, an outspoken moderate: "Any Democrat from a border or Southern or even a rural district has got to take a deep breath and look for some ways to get some distance from Obama". http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/29116 Can't you feel the love?

So, you are saying this is bad?

Did you say the same when some distanced themselves from Bush?

Dont know about any love but politics is politics and Obama is bad juju right now.

Edited to add: Not really aimed at the OP

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,119]

>Can't you feel the love?

Yep! It's a bad time to be a moderate GOPer - republicans threw the last moderate GOP candidate in NY under the bus in favor of an extremist last week. It's becoming clear that there is no room for moderates in the GOP.

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>Can't you feel the love?

Yep! It's a bad time to be a moderate GOPer - republicans threw the last moderate GOP candidate in NY under the bus in favor of an extremist last week. It's becoming clear that there is no room for moderates in the GOP.

Why is that to be a "moderate" in the GOP you have to agree with all of the things the democrats want?

Nothing like trying to marginalize a party by labeling those with principals as "extremists".

[Andy9o8 2]

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"Any Democrat from a border or Southern or even a rural district has got to take a deep breath and look for some ways to get some distance from Obama".

No kidding? New York's 23rd Congressional district, which is in a largely rural area of northern New York state near Vermont, has been overwhelmingly Republican since the Civil War. Yet the conservative Republicans completely shot their own party in the foot (by opposing their own party's candidate), and handed the election to the Democrats. So now there's yet one more Democrat in Congress. Guess again, Mr. Davis - the Republicans are engaged in intra-party civil war, and the real losers are their own party; and that suits the Democrats just fine.

[billvon 3,119]

>Why is that to be a "moderate" in the GOP you have to agree with all of
>the things the democrats want?

?? You don't. Scozzafava staunchly opposes gun control, opposes cap and trade, and supports the Bush tax cuts. But she also supports gay marriage, and that means she is unwelcome in the GOP.

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Quote by former Republican Rep Tom Davis of Virginia, an outspoken moderate: "Any Democrat from a border or Southern or even a rural district has got to take a deep breath and look for some ways to get some distance from Obama". http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/29116 Can't you feel the love?

So, you are saying this is bad?

Did you say the same when some distanced themselves from Bush?

Dont know about any love but politics is politics and Obama is bad juju right now.

Edited to add: Not really aimed at the OP

I think its hilarious, and I hope all of them take his advice. BHO is definitely bad juju. Hope he stays that way.

I didn't like Bush, but he was all we had, and I could understand some distancing themselves from him. That was not funny; this is. Times have changed.

Mr Davis just might be feeling the love between himself and moderate Democrats. Maybe he feels more at home with them.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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>Can't you feel the love?

Yep! It's a bad time to be a moderate GOPer - republicans threw the last moderate GOP candidate in NY under the bus in favor of an extremist last week. It's becoming clear that there is no room for moderates in the GOP.

Why is that to be a "moderate" in the GOP you have to agree with all of the things the democrats want?

Nothing like trying to marginalize a party by labeling those with principals as "extremists".

No doubt - I didn't realize that endorsements by ACORN and DKOS were marks of "moderates".

Mike
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"Any Democrat from a border or Southern or even a rural district has got to take a deep breath and look for some ways to get some distance from Obama".

No kidding? New York's 23rd Congressional district, which is in a largely rural area of northern New York state near Vermont, has been overwhelmingly Republican since the Civil War. Yet the conservative Republicans completely shot their own party in the foot (by opposing their own party's candidate), and handed the election to the Democrats. So now there's yet one more Democrat in Congress. Guess again, Mr. Davis - the Republicans are engaged in intra-party civil war, and the real losers are their own party; and that suits the Democrats just fine.

Ok, they blew it on very short notice. Now the Democrats have another seat and a moderate Republican in their corner. So what. Wonder how many of those rural New Yorkers will vote for BHO again. Bet they have had their fill of him.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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>Why is that to be a "moderate" in the GOP you have to agree with all of
>the things the democrats want?

?? You don't. Scozzafava staunchly opposes gun control, opposes cap and trade, and supports the Bush tax cuts. But she also supports gay marriage, and that means she is unwelcome in the GOP.

She also supports abortion rights and the stimulus which are both big conservative issues. How moderate would you call a democrat who was against gay rights, was anti-abortion, and anti-stimulus? In fact, are there any democrats who feel that way? As a conservative, I think it was more important to stand behind someone with the same values rather than just elect someone simply because they have an R by their name.

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[billvon 3,119]

>As a conservative, I think it was more important to stand
>behind someone with the same values rather than just elect someone
>simply because they have an R by their name.

If you like. By abandoning the moderates, the GOP dooms themselves for another few years. This was a good example; they gave up a guaranteed win because a candidate nominated by the GOP wouldn't drink the Kool-Aid.

Eventually they will tire of losing and start to appeal to independents and moderates again - and they'll recover.

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republicans threw the last moderate GOP candidate

All of the papers I've read said she wasn't moderate. She was left of the liberals. Back room deals got unwound. That's what happened, based upon what I've read.

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If you like. By abandoning the moderates, the GOP dooms themselves for another few years. This was a good example; they gave up a guaranteed win because a candidate nominated by the GOP wouldn't drink the Kool-Aid.

No - they realized the candidate they put forward HAD been drinking the (Dem) kool-aid. Real Republicans don't get endorsements from DKOS.

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Eventually they will tire of losing and start to appeal to independents and moderates again - and they'll recover.

Would that be *these* independents?:

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Among adults not affiliated with either major political party, those not at all likely to vote for the president’s reelection outnumber by two-to-one those who would be very likely to support him.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[billvon 3,119]

>All of the papers I've read said she wasn't moderate. She was left of
>the liberals.

Wow, she's even getting thrown under the bus here. The GOP really does eat their dead.

If she really was that liberal, the question is - why did the GOP committee nominate her in the first place? My suspicion is that they saw her as someone who would represent them well and be a competitive candidate. But when the real leaders of the GOP heard about it (Beck, Limbaugh etc) they did what they do best - scream as loud as they could. And the GOP discovered they really didn't have a spine, and dumped her for a more extremist candidate.

Who, of course, lost. Indicating that even republicans thought he was too extremist.

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>All of the papers I've read said she wasn't moderate. She was left of
>the liberals.

Wow, she's even getting thrown under the bus here. The GOP really does eat their dead.

If she really was that liberal, the question is - why did the GOP committee nominate her in the first place? My suspicion is that they saw her as someone who would represent them well and be a competitive candidate. But when the real leaders of the GOP heard about it (Beck, Limbaugh etc) they did what they do best - scream as loud as they could. And the GOP discovered they really didn't have a spine, and dumped her for a more extremist candidate.

Who, of course, lost. Indicating that even republicans thought he was too extremist.

Because the party heads there are RINO's

She, is a RINO. Nothing more nothing less. But, I understand you desire to make something else of it.

Please sir, keep trying.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[mnealtx 0]

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Wow, she's even getting thrown under the bus here. The GOP really does eat their dead.

Remind me later to find the links to where people are trying to organize recalls on the "Blue Dog Democrats".

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If she really was that liberal, the question is - why did the GOP committee nominate her in the first place?

Because Boehner is as much of a fucking idiot as the rest of the crew in DC.

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My suspicion is that they saw her as someone who would represent them well and be a competitive candidate.

You mean 'a viable Dem Lite candidate'?

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But when the real leaders of the GOP heard about it (Beck, Limbaugh etc) they did what they do best - scream as loud as they could.

Still trotting out that tired old lie, Bill?

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And the GOP discovered they really didn't have a spine, and dumped her for a more extremist candidate.

By Dem standards, I'm sure he was - as I said above, real Republicans don't get endorsed by ACORN and DKOS.

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Who, of course, lost. Indicating that even republicans thought he was too extremist.

Sweet - so the gubernatorial losses in VA and NJ indicate that the Dems were too extreme.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[billvon 3,119]

>Because the party heads there are RINO's

And apparently all the republicans there, in an area that is very traditionally republican, are all RINO's too. Only the extremists are the REAL republicans.

>Please sir, keep trying.

Sure; and you, sir, keep losing.

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>Because the party heads there are RINO's

And apparently all the republicans there, in an area that is very traditionally republican, are all RINO's too. Only the extremists are the REAL republicans.

>Please sir, keep trying.

Sure; and you, sir, keep losing.

NO, not losing cause I agree with you in part. THAT my friend was ( and you missed it) THE POINT!



All you lefties need to stop trying to define the republican party. You all got enough problems of your own.

Listening to you and yours got us a sure looser in McCain. I am sure you all want to do it again.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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And apparently all the republicans there, in an area that is very traditionally republican, are all RINO's too.

No, most of the Republicans voted for Hoffman - nice try, though.

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Only the extremists are the REAL republicans

Whatever.

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Sure; and you, sir, keep losing.

Sure thing - just like in VA and NJ.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[rushmc 23]

This fits tooModerate? Yea, OK

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The Washington Post reports the Obama White House played a critical, behind-the-scenes role in persuading former GOP District 23 congressional candidate Dede Scozzafava to endorse Democrat Bill Owens over Conservative Doug Hoffman.

If true, the Post report reveals a striking example of the administration's penchant for tinkering in regional politics.

Scozzafava pulled out of the race Saturday after falling to a distant third place in the polls. Initially, national GOP leaders praised her decision as "selfless." They endorsed Hoffman, and apparently assumed Scozzafava would do the same.

On Sunday, however, Scozzafava instead endorsed the Democrat. White House officials and left-leaning pundits cited this as evidence of a schism in the GOP, which they say is becoming a narrow party of ideological conservatives.

New York Republicans have warned that Scozzafava's endorsement could throw the race to the Democrat.

According to a report buried in a Post profile of White House political director Patrick Gaspard published on Monday, the White House spent the weekend trying to lure Scozzafava's endorsement away from the GOP.

"Over the last few days," the Post profile reported, "Gaspard has also had a quiet hand in some of the good news to come Democrats' way.

"Steeped in New York politics, he played a pivotal role in the effort over the weekend to persuade Republican State Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava to endorse the Democratic candidate in the special election in New York's 23rd Congressional District, two senior White House officials said Sunday."

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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If she really was that liberal, the question is - why did the GOP committee nominate her in the first place? My suspicion is that they saw her as someone who would represent them well and be a competitive candidate.

she got the nomination because they did 3 or 4 polls and she consistantly can out as being strongest against owens while hoffman repeatedly came in last.

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If she really was that liberal, the question is - why did the GOP committee nominate her in the first place? My suspicion is that they saw her as someone who would represent them well and be a competitive candidate.

she got the nomination because they did 3 or 4 polls and she consistantly can out as being strongest against owens while hoffman repeatedly came in last.

And then, she dropped out because????

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[JohnDeere 0]

Yea Bill she was such a republican she backed the dem. after she pulled out She is no were close to a true republican, but its about all that we have had to choose from for many years.

Nothing opens like a Deere!

You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers!

[rushmc 23]

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Yea Bill she was such a republican she backed the dem. after she pulled out She is no were close to a true republican, but its about all that we have had to choose from for many years.

IF, we let them (the Dems) define that party

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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If you like. By abandoning the moderates, the GOP dooms themselves for another few years. This was a good example; they gave up a guaranteed win because a candidate nominated by the GOP wouldn't drink the Kool-Aid.

No - they realized the candidate they put forward HAD been drinking the (Dem) kool-aid. Real Republicans don't get endorsements from DKOS.

the committee that put forward they candidate is not the same group of people that threw her under the bus.

what you, limbaugh, hannity, thompson, beck, and palin fail to fucking understand is that it really doesn't matter if how liberal she is or where she goes against the republican party. what is important here is whether or not she can represent the people of her district. the people of that area are conservative, but a great many of them are also pro choice and really don't give a shit about gay marriage. it is also a strong union area, but many of the union members are conservative as well. hoffman is definately not a good representative of the people of district 23. a great disservice has been done to them.

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