downwardspiral 0 #1 November 4, 2009 I've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/04/obama.promises/index.html Edited to add: And it's even the main story in their political section. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #2 November 4, 2009 Quote I've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/04/obama.promises/index.html Edited to add: And it's even the main story in their political section. I would have liked faster action, but the elephant in the room is the real problem.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #3 November 4, 2009 http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/subjects/politifacts-top-promises/ One would think that with congress he'd be able to get more of his promises fulfilled. End warrantless wiretaps - fail Centralize ethics and lobbying information for voters-fail Require more disclosure and a waiting period for earmarks - fail Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials - fail He made alot of promises...still only 1/4 of his first term is over.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #4 November 4, 2009 QuoteTwo things the president opposed in the campaign, mandatory insurance and fines for people who don't have it, are likely to end up in the bill. QuoteThere are lobbyists in the White House, despite a promise that, "they will not work in my White House.""No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #5 November 4, 2009 QuoteI've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? I think a lot of times people have unrealistic expectations of how quickly something that may have taken 20 or more years to put in place can change over night. I think that Obama himself fell a bit into this category when some of his time tables for change were unrealistically short and he's now had to face the facts and play a bit of a longer game on some things, but I also feel that by the time his first term is up, he will have met most of his goals. Patience is a virtue and a lot of people just aren't all that virtuous right now.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #6 November 4, 2009 What I'm most interested is the change in CNN's attitude towards Obama. The article highlights this as it doesn't seem to be full of much substance yet it is the main story in their political section. I'm not disputing the validity of the piece but I also feel it's borderline 'opinion' since the writer doesn't really go out of her way to validate her points. Perhaps a bit of backlash from the White House's attack on Fox News?www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #7 November 4, 2009 Man! I thought we were taxing the top 1% to get soda in the water fountains too! So there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 November 4, 2009 Quote Man! I thought we were taxing the top 1% to get soda in the water fountains too! Not really sure what you mean by that. Did you mean Kool-aid?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #9 November 4, 2009 Quote Quote I've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? I think a lot of times people have unrealistic expectations of how quickly something that may have taken 20 or more years to put in place can change over night. Not sure if it has much to do with the past. Barry took 4 months to pick a damn dog.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #10 November 4, 2009 Quote Quote I've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/04/obama.promises/index.html Edited to add: And it's even the main story in their political section. I would have liked faster action, but the elephant in the room is the real problem. Donkey shit is the problem"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnDeere 0 #11 November 5, 2009 Quote but not CNN.com. Hmmm maybe others are catching on to his BS?Nothing opens like a Deere! You ignorant fool! Checks are for workers! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 November 5, 2009 Quote Not sure if it has much to do with the past. Barry took 4 months to pick a damn dog. Priorities. Exactly what real crisis would you have had him push to the back burner so he could find a pet for his kids; Iran, Iraq, the economy?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #13 November 5, 2009 Quote Quote Not sure if it has much to do with the past. Barry took 4 months to pick a damn dog. Priorities. Exactly what real crisis would you have had him push to the back burner so he could find a pet for his kids; Iran, Iraq, the economy? If it took him that long to pick a dog, no WONDER it's taking him forever to figure out what to do about the war.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #14 November 5, 2009 Quote Quote Not sure if it has much to do with the past. Barry took 4 months to pick a damn dog. Priorities. Exactly what real crisis would you have had him push to the back burner so he could find a pet for his kids; Iran, Iraq, the economy? He won't do squat with Iran, Iraq is yesterday's war politically, but speaking of the middle east, he won't make a call on troops for Afghanistan, and he's wrecking the economy on purpose. At least he put the economy on the front burner.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 November 5, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Not sure if it has much to do with the past. Barry took 4 months to pick a damn dog. Priorities. Exactly what real crisis would you have had him push to the back burner so he could find a pet for his kids; Iran, Iraq, the economy? If it took him that long to pick a dog, no WONDER it's taking him forever to figure out what to do about the war. Oh please. As if he was even involved in the dog thing other than to say "OK".quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #16 November 5, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Not sure if it has much to do with the past. Barry took 4 months to pick a damn dog. Priorities. Exactly what real crisis would you have had him push to the back burner so he could find a pet for his kids; Iran, Iraq, the economy? If it took him that long to pick a dog, no WONDER it's taking him forever to figure out what to do about the war. Oh please. As if he was even involved in the dog thing other than to say "OK". So now you know the inner workings of the Obama family? Oh double please.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #17 November 5, 2009 Quote... Iraq is yesterday's war politically ... Do you think it should or shouldn't be? /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #18 November 5, 2009 QuoteQuote... Iraq is yesterday's war politically ... Do you think it should or shouldn't be? /Marg I think we should do whatever is necessary to reach the originally stated goal of leaving Iraq as a free country able to govern and defend itself. I couldn't care less if it is politically unpopular.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #19 November 5, 2009 Quote I've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/04/obama.promises/index.html Edited to add: And it's even the main story in their political section. That's because their expectations were rediculous. The GDP has had 2 enormous consecutive gains, the market is sailing and new unemployment claims are the lowest since he took office. Let's look at Reagan; tax cuts my friends and money supply contraction, which led to 10.8 unemployment and a prolonged mess. It's unfortunate that GWB's mess wasn't realized sooner and we had a year or so of the GD so we could see, not by numbers but by effect, how bad this was. We were insulated from the depth of this mess by Obama/Congress' quick and correct actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #20 November 5, 2009 Quote Let's look at Reagan; tax cuts my friends and money supply contraction, which led to 10.8 unemployment and a prolonged mess. How quickly we forget the peanut farmerPlease don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #21 November 5, 2009 Quotehttp://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/subjects/politifacts-top-promises/ One would think that with congress he'd be able to get more of his promises fulfilled. End warrantless wiretaps - fail Centralize ethics and lobbying information for voters-fail Require more disclosure and a waiting period for earmarks - fail Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials - fail He made alot of promises...still only 1/4 of his first term is over. HC - on the brink Economy -----GDP fixed -----Market fixed -----Unemp bleeding stopped People are so critical of Obama, but refuse to note taht he inherited such a mess and that has distracted from his agendas. After HC we'll see what he's about in regard to Iraq, taxes and the rest. But he can't shake things up too much or HC will fail, which is why he's not pushing other issues. At teh same time, what has he vetoed in regard to the issues to which you refer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #22 November 5, 2009 Economy -----GDP fixed -----Market fixed -----Unemp bleeding stopped Only you would assume those things wouldn't have righted themselves without gov't interdiction.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #23 November 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteI've noticed more and more articles which are critical of Obama on CNN.com. The linked article below I feel is overly critical or at the very least, written just to be critical of Obama. Something I would expect out of FoxNews.com but not CNN.com. What do you guys think? I think a lot of times people have unrealistic expectations of how quickly something that may have taken 20 or more years to put in place can change over night. I think that Obama himself fell a bit into this category when some of his time tables for change were unrealistically short and he's now had to face the facts and play a bit of a longer game on some things, but I also feel that by the time his first term is up, he will have met most of his goals. Patience is a virtue and a lot of people just aren't all that virtuous right now. Most importantly if he was to radical for change he would scare away even his party; people are afraid of change. So he's waiting for HC to pass, then I believe it's a new man; he'll be radical with taxes and Iraq. Do you hear him in contemplation about Iraq/Afg, esp Afg? That way he can pull the plug post-HC and not appear to be too undecided. Politics are whacky and you have to play the game, his intentions are great and 2 things are kicking his ass right now: - Great Recession - HC Hopefully we can be done with those by next summer and he can then move to other things. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,107 #24 November 5, 2009 >Only you would assume those things wouldn't have righted themselves >without gov't interdiction. And only republicans would assume they had absolutely nothing to do with government interdiction. The truth, as usual, is somewhere in between. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdvr 210 #25 November 5, 2009 but refuse to note taht he inherited such a mess and that has distracted from his agendas So it's OK for Obama but not OK for Reagan?Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
