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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.

Also, the party's power center is mostly limited to the South, the one region McCain dominated last fall; Obama won almost everywhere else — including making inroads in emerging powerhouse regions like the West, although Republicans still solidly control several lightly populated states in the area.

With an electoral college, concentrated votes are a bad thing, you need dispersion.

Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.

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Ahh Lucky...you're only off by 12 months. This isn't the November that counts.

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Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.



You're right. It's not fashionable to be a republican right now. And we know how much fashion is important to you lefty's.

It'll swing back the other way...always does.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_el_ge/us_election_rdp

What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.

Also, the party's power center is mostly limited to the South, the one region McCain dominated last fall; Obama won almost everywhere else — including making inroads in emerging powerhouse regions like the West, although Republicans still solidly control several lightly populated states in the area.

With an electoral college, concentrated votes are a bad thing, you need dispersion.

Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Whatcha smokin?:D
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Ahh Lucky...you're only off by 12 months. This isn't the November that counts.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_gubernatorial_elections,_2009

I realize your linear process of thinking won't allow for deviation, but there are elections today in some places and referendums too.

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You're right. It's not fashionable to be a republican right now.



Well, that's the understatement of the year, I would say a putrid embarassment.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_el_ge/us_election_rdp

What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.

Also, the party's power center is mostly limited to the South, the one region McCain dominated last fall; Obama won almost everywhere else — including making inroads in emerging powerhouse regions like the West, although Republicans still solidly control several lightly populated states in the area.

With an electoral college, concentrated votes are a bad thing, you need dispersion.

Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Whatcha smokin?:D


Thx for being so huge in this thread; you own it baby.:S

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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.



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Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Why the hell are you so damned terrified? Isn't it odd that you point to thinning ranks in a political party while mentioning that the same party may pick up wins against the opposition party?

The GOP losing members is not a problem for Dems unless Dems are losing them more quickly.

If the GOP gains seats, any argument you can try about how they're losing power is objectively falsifiable.


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_el_ge/us_election_rdp

What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.

Also, the party's power center is mostly limited to the South, the one region McCain dominated last fall; Obama won almost everywhere else — including making inroads in emerging powerhouse regions like the West, although Republicans still solidly control several lightly populated states in the area.

With an electoral college, concentrated votes are a bad thing, you need dispersion.

Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Whatcha smokin?:D


Thx for being so huge in this thread; you own it baby.:S


You are very welcome little man

Whatcha smokin?
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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.



Running back and forth along side a giant pendulum, cheering it and waving pom-poms while it swings one way, booing and throwing rotten fruit at it while it swings the other way... a bit of a waste of energy.

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People were saying the same thing about the Democratic Party several years back. And the Repubs before that. And the Dems before that......
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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.



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Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Why the hell are you so damned terrified? Isn't it odd that you point to thinning ranks in a political party while mentioning that the same party may pick up wins against the opposition party?

The GOP losing members is not a problem for Dems unless Dems are losing them more quickly.

If the GOP gains seats, any argument you can try about how they're losing power is objectively falsifiable.



I'm not worried, just pointing out, once again, the right is failing

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_el_ge/us_election_rdp

What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.

Also, the party's power center is mostly limited to the South, the one region McCain dominated last fall; Obama won almost everywhere else — including making inroads in emerging powerhouse regions like the West, although Republicans still solidly control several lightly populated states in the area.

With an electoral college, concentrated votes are a bad thing, you need dispersion.

Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Whatcha smokin?:D


Thx for being so huge in this thread; you own it baby.:S


You are very welcome little man

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Ever look around and see others on your side make substantive points, yet you just cheerlead?

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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.



Running back and forth along side a giant pendulum, cheering it and waving pom-poms while it swings one way, booing and throwing rotten fruit at it while it swings the other way... a bit of a waste of energy.



I hear ya, but parties can go away; conservatism will stay tho in a different form. The Whig Party departed, butthey had a viable alternative that has become the essence of the WHig.

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People were saying the same thing about the Democratic Party several years back. And the Repubs before that. And the Dems before that......




True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC. Not to mention the young and minorities that will benefit and have been awakened in 08. Curtains, probably not, but it could be in time.

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People were saying the same thing about the Democratic Party several years back. And the Repubs before that. And the Dems before that......




True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC. Not to mention the young and minorities that will benefit and have been awakened in 08. Curtains, probably not, but it could be in time.



Have you forgotten 1994 when the Dems lost control of both the House and Senate? The media had all but written the Dems obituary.
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People were saying the same thing about the Democratic Party several years back. And the Repubs before that. And the Dems before that......




True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC. Not to mention the young and minorities that will benefit and have been awakened in 08. Curtains, probably not, but it could be in time.



Have you forgotten 1994 when the Dems lost control of both the House and Senate? The media had all but written the Dems obituary.



True, but the pres was Dem and popular, so that offset it. He won by a massive margin in 96, even won AZ, which is a rarity here.

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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.



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Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Why the hell are you so damned terrified? Isn't it odd that you point to thinning ranks in a political party while mentioning that the same party may pick up wins against the opposition party?

The GOP losing members is not a problem for Dems unless Dems are losing them more quickly.

If the GOP gains seats, any argument you can try about how they're losing power is objectively falsifiable.



I'm not worried, just pointing out, once again, the right is failing



The right is gaining seats... so they're failing...

Only you could tie those two things together.

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What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.



Your linked story says nothing about that - maybe you should re-read it.

There *is* this, however:

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True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC.



This remains your hope. History suggests otherwise.

Hillary Clinton spends most of 1993 trying to reform HC and what did that get her? Everlast hatred by half the population, and certainly contributed to the GOP victory in 1994.

If reforming HC was easy, it would have been done already. It's hard to do at all, and even harder to do in a way that will make people happy. Failing badly will drive voters the other way...to the waiting GOP. Succeed, and it could be 5 terms of FDR+Truman again. But odds seem against that level of success.

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Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.



So the Republicans pick up seats, and the Dems loose seats, yet the Republican party is in trouble?

It is VERY clear you have no idea about the history of elections. Non Prez election year elections often flip the party in power.... Mainly because the party out of power does a better job of getting people to the polls.

But, you continue to show you have no idea how politics work and ignore history when it does not suit you.

In other words; Your theory is crap.
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>So the Republicans pick up seats, and the Dems loose seats, yet the
>Republican party is in trouble?

Nope - by that angle they are doing well. By this angle, not so well:

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Republicans’ approval ratings worst in 25 years

By Raw Story
Friday, October 23rd, 2009

Republicans approval ratings worst in 25 years

They got rid of scandal-tainted Majority Leader Tom DeLay, airport shoe-tapper Larry Craig and prurient instant message typer Mark Foley, but they just can't seem to shake the gloom.

Congressional Republicans scored just 36 percent approval ratings from the American public in a CNN/Opinion Research poll released Friday.

Fifty-four percent of Americans viewed Republicans in Congress unfavorably, while 41 percent said they were rankled by Democrats. Democrats had a 53 percent approval rating to Republicans' 36.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091103/ap_on_el_ge/us_election_rdp

What's more, the GOP's ranks are thinning: Only 32 percent of respondents called themselves Republicans in a recent AP-GfK survey compared with 43 percent who called themselves Democrats.

Yep, shrinking base. It's considered an embarassment to align with the Repubs.

Also, the party's power center is mostly limited to the South, the one region McCain dominated last fall; Obama won almost everywhere else — including making inroads in emerging powerhouse regions like the West, although Republicans still solidly control several lightly populated states in the area.

With an electoral college, concentrated votes are a bad thing, you need dispersion.

Good lucky, righties - you'll need it.



Whatcha smokin?:D


Thx for being so huge in this thread; you own it baby.:S


You are very welcome little man

Whatcha smokin?


Ever look around and see others on your side make substantive points, yet you just cheerlead?


Dude you make a claim that is a lefty talking point and then stand behind it as if it is fact

Fact is, the largest self identified political group is conservative republican, then independents (who are now saying they will vote republican and then the last group is the Dems .

So my question remains, what you smokin?
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People were saying the same thing about the Democratic Party several years back. And the Repubs before that. And the Dems before that......




True, but I think we'll see a permantent shift here. And we are in a period of emergency with the debt and HC mess, so revolutionary times are here. After people get HC and are happy, could you see the next Repub on campaign? Every time the HC issue comes close, peopel, even Reoubs will be thinking.....you wanna take away my HC, don't you? A lot of now angry Repubs will become quit, closet Dems for fear of losing hC. Not to mention the young and minorities that will benefit and have been awakened in 08. Curtains, probably not, but it could be in time.



Have you forgotten 1994 when the Dems lost control of both the House and Senate? The media had all but written the Dems obituary.



True, but the pres was Dem and popular, so that offset it. He won by a massive margin in 96, even won AZ, which is a rarity here.



Yep. And I will bet you dollars to donuts that in a few years...maybe 1, maybe 3, maybe 7.....the Republican party will be back on it's feet. It's just a cycle.
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