champu 1 #26 November 3, 2009 QuoteIran would be thinking of them as puppets, not allies. I don't think we're really in disagreement, sorry if my tone isn't coming through on the interweb. I was just confused by your original statement about the Taliban doing what they want with Saudi funding/support and the Taliban doing what Iran wants with Iran's funding/support. That's not something we should count on and it's not something Iran should count on. QuoteQuoteIt would be foolish of Iran to think of the Taliban as an ally.Just as it was foolish of the US to do so during the Soviet/Afgan war. You'd think people would learn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #27 November 3, 2009 QuoteCliff is full of shit! Reference: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=&search_user_username=cliffwhite&sb=post_time&mh=500 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolfriverjoe 1,523 #28 November 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteIt would be foolish of Iran to think of the Taliban as an ally. Just as it was foolish of the US to do so during the Soviet/Afgan war. The Taliban didn't exist during the Soviet invasion/occupation. The main recipients of US support during the Soviet war were opposed to the Taliban. Ahmed Shah Masoud (Lion of the Panjeer) was killed by the Taliban/Al Queda on Sept 9 2001. Although he had to share the goodies with the other resistance groups (including those who eventually became or joined with the Taliban), no US aid went to them directly. And Iran supports (pulls the strings of) Hamas and Hezbollah (Hezb'Allah) in the Palistinian territories and Lebanon. IIRC they are Sunni of some sort, not Shia. Iran supports them because it is to their advantage to do so, not because they agree with them theologically. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Iran supports the Taliban. There are also some pretty good arguments that the Taliban was created by and is still supported by certain elements within the Pakistani security /intellingence services (ISI)."There are NO situations which do not call for a French Maid outfit." Lucky McSwervy "~ya don't GET old by being weak & stupid!" - Airtwardo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #29 November 4, 2009 QuoteThe Taliban didn't exist during the Soviet invasion/occupation. Actually, its early origins did overlap the latter period of the Soviet occupation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban#Origin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cliffwhite 0 #30 November 5, 2009 [reply Let me get this straight: someone else has to provide references to back up a statement that disagrees with what you wrote, yet when you make another one of your own ridiculous assertions (like the one that started this thread), you don't have to provide any supporting information at all, except to say that "it's like the mafia?" Quote I didn't think to back my assertion with references,millertimeunc, as I considered the information I provided to be intuitive to anyone with *street sense*. It's just the way things work. Funny though, just this morning NPR ran a piece which mentioned the Taliban getting a cut from all the infrastructure projects in Afghanistan. I guess I scooped 'em by a couple of days and you got it all right here for free!!! Hmmn, Maybe next week I'll interupt my own posts and hold a "pledge drive"!! Blues, Cliff 2muchTruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cliffwhite 0 #31 November 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteCliff is full of shit! Reference: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=&search_user_username=cliffwhite&sb=post_time&mh=500 LOL! You know Andy if all those posts were shit that I put out you'ld think I would have dropped a pantsize or two by now! Thing of it is, it's all Truth! Well most of it ,sometimes I have to just try and get y'alls' goat! White folk sure are uptight and blind . Lots of times the just don't want to see the truth and when they do.., they don't want to acknowledge it.., even when they know that * that there is the truth*!!! I'm thinking of changing my screen name. If I can figure out how to do it I won't use my given name anymore . I think I'll post as "2 Much Truth". Blues, Cliff OH Yeah!!! PS: Here's one link which supports my claim on this thread. http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know2muchTruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
timmyfitz 0 #32 November 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteCliff is full of shit! Reference: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?do=search_results&search_forum=all&search_string=&search_type=AND&search_fields=sb&search_time=&search_user_username=cliffwhite&sb=post_time&mh=500 LOL! You know Andy if all those posts were shit that I put out you'ld think I would have dropped a pantsize or two by now! Thing of it is, it's all Truth! Well most of it ,sometimes I have to just try and get y'alls' goat! White folk sure are uptight and blind . Lots of times the just don't want to see the truth and when they do.., they don't want to acknowledge it.., even when they know that * that there is the truth*!!! I'm thinking of changing my screen name. If I can figure out how to do it I won't use my given name anymore . I think I'll post as "2 Much Truth". Blues, Cliff OH Yeah!!! PS: Here's one link which supports my claim on this thread. http://blogs.reuters.com/global/2009/08/13/who-is-funding-the-afghan-taliban-you-dont-want-to-know "less than half of the Taliban’s war chest comes from poppy, with a variety of sources, including private contributions from Persian Gulf states, accounting for much of the rest." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cliffwhite 0 #33 November 10, 2009 Quote "less than half of the Taliban’s war chest comes from poppy, with a variety of sources, including private contributions from Persian Gulf states, accounting for much of the rest." Yes, timmyfitz, As I said , Opium is not the major funding of the Taliban. It is the US Taxpayer. Blues, Cliff2muchTruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites