rushmc 23 #26 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuote Exactly the same is not the same as relevant. I get it, you don't. You think you got it? Pray your Jesus more. Dude, that "post" you refer to was so full of shit I cant believe you are still trying to defend it. Go find out who Jerry Springer is. It can only help you. Relevant? Transparent? You have got to be fucking kidding. Or a comedian. Hard to tell"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #27 November 3, 2009 Quote 10 outa 10 Your reading skills are supreme, as usual. There are only 4 (four) items.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 November 3, 2009 QuoteYou obviously didn't read what I wrote. But I'll repeat: it's not absolute, it's relative. Absolutely: Bush Patriot Act baaaaaad, Obama Patriot Act gooooood.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuote 10 outa 10 Your reading skills are supreme, as usual. There are only 4 (four) items. WHOOSH....."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #30 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteall you t-leggers How old are you, again? old enough to know a t-legger when I see one And why is it OK for Obama and not Bush? Care to answer? They just can't bring themselves to admit that they gotta tan Bush Lite in the WH (they would prefer a black Bush Lite in the WH, but they have to settle for tan). BHO needs to name his next kid George or Laura in honor of his new mentor.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 November 3, 2009 QuotePray your Jesus more. WTF does that have to do with the conversation, George? Besides some backhanded slam at religion, that is. Very nye kulturni of you.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #32 November 3, 2009 QuoteBush Patriot Act baaaaaad, Obama Patriot Act gooooood. Too bad your favorite talk show host will never tell you that those are two different Patriot acts.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 November 3, 2009 Quote Quote Bush Patriot Act baaaaaad, Obama Patriot Act gooooood. Too bad your favorite talk show host will never tell you that those are two different Patriot acts. Not the part you have been bitching about"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #34 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteBush Patriot Act baaaaaad, Obama Patriot Act gooooood. Too bad your favorite talk show host will never tell you that those are two different Patriot acts. Prove it - show me the NEW law.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #35 November 3, 2009 Quote Dude, that "post" you refer to was so full of shit I cant believe you are still trying to defend it. So far I haven't seen any facts, and your opinion has been proven wrong so many times so I wouldn't base anything on it. Quote Go find out who Jerry Springer is. It can only help you. If you're saying that it would help me, this sounds like a very good reason not to do it Quote Relevant? Transparent? You have got to be fucking kidding. Or a comedian. Hard to tell Ok, let's try again. Even my 12yo daughter understands that a government - ANY government - simply cannot be completely transparent. There will always be classified information, and at least for some of this information everyone would agree that it should stay classified. So when a reasonable person is talking about "transparent government", this obviously doesn't mean CIA publishing their undercover spies list on their web site, or even how exactly the IRS selects tax returns for audits. Therefore the conclusions: 1. Any government transparency could only be relevant; there will be never absolute transparency, and it's unrealistic to expect that; 2. Some classified information should stay classified no matter who is the President; 3. "Open/transparent" government means MORE information available to public, not ALL information available to public. I really cannot understand why is it so hard to get.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #36 November 3, 2009 QuoteProve it - show me the NEW law. Why do you need it? Your favorite Fox "news" and talk show hosts will tell you all the Truth you need to know. BTW, are you banned ofrom the Google?* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 November 3, 2009 Quote Quote Dude, that "post" you refer to was so full of shit I cant believe you are still trying to defend it. So far I haven't seen any facts, and your opinion has been proven wrong so many times so I wouldn't base anything on it. Quote Go find out who Jerry Springer is. It can only help you. If you're saying that it would help me, this sounds like a very good reason not to do it Quote Relevant? Transparent? You have got to be fucking kidding. Or a comedian. Hard to tell Ok, let's try again. Even my 12yo daughter understands that a government - ANY government - simply cannot be completely transparent. There will always be classified information, and at least for some of this information everyone would agree that it should stay classified. So when a reasonable person is talking about "transparent government", this obviously doesn't mean CIA publishing their undercover spies list on their web site, or even how exactly the IRS selects tax returns for audits. Therefore the conclusions: 1. Any government transparency could only be relevant; there will be never absolute transparency, and it's unrealistic to expect that; 2. Some classified information should stay classified no matter who is the President; 3. "Open/transparent" government means MORE information available to public, not ALL information available to public. I really cannot understand why is it so hard to get. I understand it and I get it. Your whole damned point is that somehow the Obama Admin is more transparent the the Bush admin correct? I throw the bull shit flag. Prove it. You cant cause it is bull shit (hence the flag) You got one thing right though, Jerry Springer would be a waste of time"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #38 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteProve it - show me the NEW law. Why do you need it? Your favorite Fox "news" and talk show hosts will tell you all the Truth you need to know. BTW, are you banned ofrom the Google? You must be cause you made the claim the law is somehow different. Well, he spelled it out for YOU Patriot Act , Bush==== bad Patriot Act. Obama=== good"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #39 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuoteProve it - show me the NEW law. Why do you need it? Because I think you're full of shit. Google seems to support my theory, too.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #40 November 3, 2009 Quote Your whole damned point is that somehow the Obama Admin is more transparent the the Bush admin correct? Yes. Quote I throw the bull shit flag. Prove it. You cant cause it is bull shit (hence the flag) Executive Order 13233. Eat it.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #41 November 3, 2009 You first!http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS350&ei=64XvSuXmNYPUNdfukI0H&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&ved=0CAsQBSgA&q=Obama+vs+Bush+wiretapping\&spell=1 "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #42 November 3, 2009 Quote Because I think you're full of shit. Google seems to support my theory, too. I always said you Christians do make a good example to others how a person who devoted themselves to God would behave. Thank you for providing another proof.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 November 3, 2009 From one of the links Bad day for you QuoteSad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #44 November 3, 2009 Quote You first! I assume this means you accepted my proof, but (as usual) have no balls to admit it, right?* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #45 November 3, 2009 Quote Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes. You still cannot understand the difference between more open government, and completely open government?* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #46 November 3, 2009 More??? http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS350&q=Obama%20Administration%20Defends%20Bush%20Wiretapping&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #47 November 3, 2009 Quote Quote Because I think you're full of shit. Google seems to support my theory, too. I always said you Christians do make a good example to others how a person who devoted themselves to God would behave. Thank you for providing another proof. OMG I'm a bad Christian because I insulted you.... I'm going to HELL!!!!! Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #48 November 3, 2009 QuoteExecutive Order 13233. That's concerning the privacy of presidential records, not the Patriot Act. QuoteEat it. You first.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #49 November 3, 2009 QuoteQuote Sad as that is, it's the Department Of Justice's second argument that is the most pernicious. The DOJ claims that the U.S. Government is completely immune from litigation for illegal spying — that the Government can never be sued for surveillance that violates federal privacy statutes. You still cannot understand the difference between more open government, and completely open government? WTF is wrong with you? I get it already OK? That is not a hard concept for anyone. Your assertion that the Obama admin is "more" open is ludicrous And then take the links I provided from (your suggestion) Google, and I gotta ask, are your eyes open? Come on man"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 November 3, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Because I think you're full of shit. Google seems to support my theory, too. I always said you Christians do make a good example to others how a person who devoted themselves to God would behave. Thank you for providing another proof. OMG I'm a bad Christian because I insulted you.... I'm going to HELL!!!!! Just ask for forgiveness"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
