bodypilot90 0 #1 October 30, 2009 Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/28/autos/clunkers_analysis/index.htm No way it was worth $24000 a car. Like the rest of obama's economic plan, to much money for to little. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 October 30, 2009 QuoteClunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/28/autos/clunkers_analysis/index.htm Yay for people jumping to unfounded conclusions and exaggerating math. Bravo. I wanna know what nit-wit at Edmunds made this amazing analysis. That number is so far off the mark it's laughable.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #3 October 30, 2009 Of course, the assumption is that Edmunds analysis is (a) accurate, and (b) unbiased. Both of those are very dubious assumptions.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bodypilot90 0 #4 October 30, 2009 ok if the numbers are true, would it be worth it and why? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,230 #5 October 30, 2009 Quoteok if the numbers are true, would it be worth it and why? If pigs could fly, would they crap on your head?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdshit 0 #6 October 30, 2009 That report is pure bullshit. Quote ...but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway... And how do they know how many cars would have been sold without the program in effect? They can't compare year over year cause we were deep in recession last year and domestic auto sales were down like 60%. Quote The average rebate was $4,000. But the overwhelming majority of sales would have taken place anyway at some time in the last half of 2009, according to Edmunds.com. Again, how do they know this? Quote The average rebate was $4,000. So if the average rebate was 4 grand, where did they get their numbers from? This report is biased, probably because the people running Edmunds have a hard on for Obama like some of the asshats that post on DZ.com. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #7 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteok if the numbers are true, would it be worth it and why? If pigs could fly, would they crap on your head? and you sceam for straight answers and then you do this shit? Pot, meet kettle?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 October 30, 2009 Quote That report is pure bullshit. Quote ...but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway... And how do they know how many cars would have been sold without the program in effect? They can't compare year over year cause we were deep in recession last year and domestic auto sales were down like 60%. Quote The average rebate was $4,000. But the overwhelming majority of sales would have taken place anyway at some time in the last half of 2009, according to Edmunds.com. Again, how do they know this? Quote The average rebate was $4,000. So if the average rebate was 4 grand, where did they get their numbers from? This report is biased, probably because the people running Edmunds have a hard on for Obama like some of the asshats that post on DZ.com. You know, I think I will start hating Obama now. I am told I do already by asshat comments like the one here"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 3 #9 October 30, 2009 You know, the thought occurs to me: would we want these clowns to manage health care? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,176 #10 October 30, 2009 >You know, I think I will start hating Obama now. No more tingles in your leg? Might be a good thing for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 October 30, 2009 Quote>You know, I think I will start hating Obama now. No more tingles in your leg? Might be a good thing for you. It would be a damned good If I did. You t-leggers are the ones I worry about"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 October 30, 2009 Quote Clunkers: Taxpayers paid $24,000 per car http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/28/autos/clunkers_analysis/index.htm No way it was worth $24000 a car. Like the rest of obama's economic plan, to much money for to little. NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- A total of 690,000 new vehicles were sold under the Cash for Clunkers program last summer, but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the automotive Web site Edmunds.com. And with the economy sagging, they can take previous year's sales and try to superimpose that upon 2009? Yea, brilliant. But the overwhelming majority of sales would have taken place anyway at some time in the last half of 2009, according to Edmunds.com. Let me use that crystal ball for the Superbowl winner, pls. I think auto sales would have been horrible w/o the C4C. I'm not a big fan of it, but things had to be done. Your own article slams the methodology as bogus or at least incomplete. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #13 October 30, 2009 Quoteok if the numbers are true, would it be worth it and why? If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts...... what was the question again? No, we should have done a McHoover (hybrid Hoover and McCain) and cut taxes, my friends, that would have fixed everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #14 October 30, 2009 QuoteYou know, I think I will start hating Obama now. I'm glad I could be a part of your Obama-hate coming out of the closet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep 0 #15 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteok if the numbers are true, would it be worth it and why? If pigs could fly, would they crap on your head? No, the price of bacon would go up Gone fishing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #16 October 30, 2009 Quote And with the economy sagging, they can take previous year's sales and try to superimpose that upon 2009? Yea, brilliant. No, but they can take sales from the weeks before cash for clunkers and adjust up or down according to previous years' seasonal fluctuations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #17 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuote And with the economy sagging, they can take previous year's sales and try to superimpose that upon 2009? Yea, brilliant. No, but they can take sales from the weeks before cash for clunkers and adjust up or down according to previous years' seasonal fluctuations. They can try that, but it's still guessing, just maybe a little more scientific. Did they do that? Pls show. Furthermore, using scientific processes in these times isn't as reliable as when times are stable. Again, I would like to see tehir methodology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteYou know, I think I will start hating Obama now. I'm glad I could be a part of your Obama-hate coming out of the closet. Nope, not out of the closet, I didn't hate him before. but so many ass hats have told me I do, I started hating him today."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #19 October 30, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote And with the economy sagging, they can take previous year's sales and try to superimpose that upon 2009? Yea, brilliant. No, but they can take sales from the weeks before cash for clunkers and adjust up or down according to previous years' seasonal fluctuations. They can try that, but it's still guessing, just maybe a little more scientific. Did they do that? Pls show. Furthermore, using scientific processes in these times isn't as reliable as when times are stable. Again, I would like to see tehir methodology. Guessing?? you mean like the Obama admin is doing with the job numbers? (I hate the SOB Obama)"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #20 October 30, 2009 Quote Quote Quote You know, I think I will start hating Obama now. I'm glad I could be a part of your Obama-hate coming out of the closet. Nope, not out of the closet, I didn't hate him before. but so many ass hats have told me I do, I started hating him today. Glad we coild be of service to you so you could find your real self. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #21 October 30, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote You know, I think I will start hating Obama now. I'm glad I could be a part of your Obama-hate coming out of the closet. Nope, not out of the closet, I didn't hate him before. but so many ass hats have told me I do, I started hating him today. Glad we coild be of service to you so you could find your real self. Not my real self, the Obama hating projected self you gave me. You should be proud. You must hate him too. He is a fuck head after all"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #22 October 30, 2009 Alright, I done hating him, Too much work. You keep telling people to hate him if you want to but I done. I will go back to trying to help stop his agenda Yes, I want him to fail"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 October 30, 2009 Did Edmunds actually detail their methodology? We all seen to be happy jerking each other off guessing on how well or stupidly they did it. If someone accelerated their purchase by 3-6 months to take advantage, is that a sale that would have happened anyway? Same for someone that delayed their purchase in the spring knowing the program was coming. And is their estimate any worse than the CDC's 80X multiplier for flu cases? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #24 October 30, 2009 QuoteDid Edmunds actually detail their methodology? I haven't found the original report. This is as close as I've come, and it doesn't describe the methodology in any useful detail.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #25 October 30, 2009 Quote Guessing?? you mean like the Obama admin is doing with the job numbers? No, guessing, like the authors (Edmonds) of this so-called experiment are doing with the reults. Quote (I hate the SOB Obama) Your hate brings me glee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
