christelsabine 1 #76 November 3, 2009 Quote .... We know the concept of self-protection is entirely foreign to you - too bad the concept of personal freedom is, as well. Who is "we"? Mikey, you really should know that "we" enjoy personal freedom since many many years - at least, I do! I know your actual place is not the best but, mine is .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #77 November 3, 2009 Quote>Freedom? Why do you have red lights? Traffic signs? Speed limitations? Not every place has coyotes. Not every road has red lights, traffic signs and speed limits. If you like, you can remain in malls and be at very little risk for coyote attack. Or you can hike in a national forest and be at greater risk. If it's worth it to you, then go for it. If not, then that's OK too. christelsabine: Please note how billvon understands the concept of freedom with regard to personal choice in recreational pursuits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #78 November 3, 2009 Quote I carry a gun everytime I enter a national park. I wasn't aware firearms were allowed in national parks in US; they are not in Canada. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #79 November 3, 2009 Quotehad some wild boar not too long ago. Very tasty, but also relatively fatty. No, didn't hunt for it, bought it at the Farmer's Market in Ottawa. I found some today at a specialty meat shop. Not sure it will be thawed in time for dinner tonight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #80 November 3, 2009 Quote Question: Why do they let million tourists walk into thier forests? It is NOT free of danger. I've been in Canada many times since then, never again with a kid. Never again alone w/o a gun. OK, I applied for hunting, which was OK. Trust me there are politicians that would like to regulate the 99.99% of Canada that is "wild." They haven't gotten control quite yet. BTW when you are hunting in Algonquin Provincial Park watch out for wardens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #81 November 3, 2009 Look do not lecture John or anyone else, you nearly fed your child to a bear. If it were not for chance you would have been nothing but a big steaming pile of bear shit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #82 November 3, 2009 Quote Quote Question: Why do they let million tourists walk into thier forests? It is NOT free of danger. I've been in Canada many times since then, never again with a kid. Never again alone w/o a gun. OK, I applied for hunting, which was OK. Trust me there are politicians that would like to regulate the 99.99% of Canada that is "wild." They haven't gotten control quite yet. BTW when you are hunting in Algonquin Provincial Park watch out for wardens. Awesome! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #83 November 4, 2009 Quote As you walk armed into a NP as well as in the streets (with or w/o red lights). Hmmm....care to remind me who said this, again? "I've been in Canada many times since then, never again with a kid. Never again alone w/o a gun. OK, I applied for hunting, which was OK. " Oh, wait, I forgot - YOU are the final arbiter of when it's OK or not OK to carry a gun, aren't you?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #84 November 4, 2009 Just wait until she cries for vengeance from the mods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #85 November 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteI carry a gun everytime I enter a national park. I wasn't aware firearms were allowed in national parks in US; they are not in Canada. Obama recently signed a law (against his will) that mandates that National Parks have to abide by the State gun laws of the state in which they reside. Thus, National Parks that used to forbid guns, located in a place like Texas, now have to allow visitors to bring them in because Texas state law allows it. See thread here: http://www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3519687 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #86 November 4, 2009 QuoteQuote .... BTW when you are hunting in Algonquin Provincial Park watch out for wardens. IIRC, it's not allowed there. I've been hunting in BC. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #87 November 4, 2009 Quote .... If it were not for chance you would have been nothing but a big steaming pile of bear shit. How fine! I really can smell how much you enjoy this wild imagination .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #88 November 4, 2009 Quote1) Why do they let million tourists walk into thier forests? It is NOT free of danger. 2) I've been hunting in BC. Hunting is a dangerous activity, walking around in forests with wild animals and a dangerous weapon in your hands. Don't you think the government should protect you from that activity, by forbidding you from doing it? Why do you choose to take such dangerous risks with yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #89 November 4, 2009 Oh dear JohnRich! That's level of first-graders - if you wanna discuss with me, level should be raised a bit. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #90 November 4, 2009 Tell us what your ideas of personal freedom vs. State/Collective powers are and we will adjust the conversation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #91 November 4, 2009 Your one warning. Cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #92 November 4, 2009 OK But that was not meant as an attack. Is my edit better, or to her liking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #93 November 4, 2009 QuoteThat's level of first-graders - if you wanna discuss with me, level should be raised a bit. No answers, of course. When you can't explain your own inconsistencies, accuse your opponent of being uneducated or stupid! Yeah, that's a good tactic, you seem to think. But you see, another one of your problems here is that everyone can see right through your lack of explanations, and cheap come-backs. Your opinions are illogical and inconsistent, and you can't support them with any facts or logic. That's what everyone sees from your postings. Have a nice day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites christelsabine 1 #94 November 4, 2009 Quote Quote That's level of first-graders - if you wanna discuss with me, level should be raised a bit. No answers, of course. When you can't explain your own inconsistencies, accuse your opponent of being uneducated or stupid! Yeah, that's a good tactic, you seem to think. But you see, another one of your problems here is that everyone can see right through your lack of explanations, and cheap come-backs. Your opinions are illogical and inconsistent, and you can't support them with any facts or logic. That's what everyone sees from your postings. Have a nice day. Ick! Inconsistency! How does that sound - it's a medical problem of elder people, isn't it? I did not accuse anyone. If the shoe fits, have pleasure. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,118 #95 November 4, 2009 Cut it out. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #96 November 4, 2009 Quote>You are mistaken that they could not seriously harm anyone older than 5. You haven't seen our coyotes. >All they do is bite the rear of your legs, you are then crippled and on the ground. So could a chihuahua, but I'm not worried about them either. >You obviously don't hunt. And you obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to coyotes. You know what they say about assumptions. Same goes for commenting about California coyotes vs coyotes from other areas. We have them in our "yard" too (in Utah). They're as large as a wolf. I've seen a few coyotes in the Ortega mountains and they're tiny, almost like foxes or small-medium dogs. They're not the same as the coyotes of Utah, Idaho, Montana. At 50lbs, they are large enough to take down an unprepared adult. They're aggressive enough as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #97 November 4, 2009 Quote We have them in our "yard" too (in Utah). They're as large as a wolf. I've seen a few coyotes in the Ortega mountains and they're tiny, almost like foxes or small-medium dogs. They're not the same as the coyotes of Utah, Idaho, Montana. At 50lbs, they are large enough to take down an unprepared adult. They're aggressive enough as well. The ones I've seen here in Alberta are not much bigger than the foxes; smaller than the city ones in Vancouver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites DSE 5 #98 November 4, 2009 I've never seen one in the "wild" surrounding Edmonton, but have seen many dead on the side of the road. They're much smaller than ours. Coyotes in the Rockies will take down a deer. I hate them howling at night, and this is the time of the year where they're at their worst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #99 November 4, 2009 QuoteI hate them howling at night, and this is the time of the year where they're at their worst. Why? I kind of like the sound of wild animals roaming around, just like they have for thousands of years. Of course, I'm not a rancher with livestock to protect. But as a camper, I like the coyotes howling at night. In some places where the ranchers have shot, poisoned and otherwise killed off all the coyotes, it is too quiet at night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andrewwhyte 1 #100 November 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteI hate them howling at night, and this is the time of the year where they're at their worst. Why? I kind of like the sound of wild animals roaming around, just like they have for thousands of years. Of course, I'm not a rancher with livestock to protect. But as a camper, I like the coyotes howling at night. In some places where the ranchers have shot, poisoned and otherwise killed off all the coyotes, it is too quiet at night. Agreed. The pack that lives by our DZ will go after the local calves despite their small size. The cattle really kick it up when they lose one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 4 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. 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christelsabine 1 #87 November 4, 2009 Quote .... If it were not for chance you would have been nothing but a big steaming pile of bear shit. How fine! I really can smell how much you enjoy this wild imagination .... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #88 November 4, 2009 Quote1) Why do they let million tourists walk into thier forests? It is NOT free of danger. 2) I've been hunting in BC. Hunting is a dangerous activity, walking around in forests with wild animals and a dangerous weapon in your hands. Don't you think the government should protect you from that activity, by forbidding you from doing it? Why do you choose to take such dangerous risks with yourself? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #89 November 4, 2009 Oh dear JohnRich! That's level of first-graders - if you wanna discuss with me, level should be raised a bit. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #90 November 4, 2009 Tell us what your ideas of personal freedom vs. State/Collective powers are and we will adjust the conversation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #91 November 4, 2009 Your one warning. Cut it out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #92 November 4, 2009 OK But that was not meant as an attack. Is my edit better, or to her liking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #93 November 4, 2009 QuoteThat's level of first-graders - if you wanna discuss with me, level should be raised a bit. No answers, of course. When you can't explain your own inconsistencies, accuse your opponent of being uneducated or stupid! Yeah, that's a good tactic, you seem to think. But you see, another one of your problems here is that everyone can see right through your lack of explanations, and cheap come-backs. Your opinions are illogical and inconsistent, and you can't support them with any facts or logic. That's what everyone sees from your postings. Have a nice day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #94 November 4, 2009 Quote Quote That's level of first-graders - if you wanna discuss with me, level should be raised a bit. No answers, of course. When you can't explain your own inconsistencies, accuse your opponent of being uneducated or stupid! Yeah, that's a good tactic, you seem to think. But you see, another one of your problems here is that everyone can see right through your lack of explanations, and cheap come-backs. Your opinions are illogical and inconsistent, and you can't support them with any facts or logic. That's what everyone sees from your postings. Have a nice day. Ick! Inconsistency! How does that sound - it's a medical problem of elder people, isn't it? I did not accuse anyone. If the shoe fits, have pleasure. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #95 November 4, 2009 Cut it out. Your one warning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #96 November 4, 2009 Quote>You are mistaken that they could not seriously harm anyone older than 5. You haven't seen our coyotes. >All they do is bite the rear of your legs, you are then crippled and on the ground. So could a chihuahua, but I'm not worried about them either. >You obviously don't hunt. And you obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to coyotes. You know what they say about assumptions. Same goes for commenting about California coyotes vs coyotes from other areas. We have them in our "yard" too (in Utah). They're as large as a wolf. I've seen a few coyotes in the Ortega mountains and they're tiny, almost like foxes or small-medium dogs. They're not the same as the coyotes of Utah, Idaho, Montana. At 50lbs, they are large enough to take down an unprepared adult. They're aggressive enough as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #97 November 4, 2009 Quote We have them in our "yard" too (in Utah). They're as large as a wolf. I've seen a few coyotes in the Ortega mountains and they're tiny, almost like foxes or small-medium dogs. They're not the same as the coyotes of Utah, Idaho, Montana. At 50lbs, they are large enough to take down an unprepared adult. They're aggressive enough as well. The ones I've seen here in Alberta are not much bigger than the foxes; smaller than the city ones in Vancouver. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #98 November 4, 2009 I've never seen one in the "wild" surrounding Edmonton, but have seen many dead on the side of the road. They're much smaller than ours. Coyotes in the Rockies will take down a deer. I hate them howling at night, and this is the time of the year where they're at their worst. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #99 November 4, 2009 QuoteI hate them howling at night, and this is the time of the year where they're at their worst. Why? I kind of like the sound of wild animals roaming around, just like they have for thousands of years. Of course, I'm not a rancher with livestock to protect. But as a camper, I like the coyotes howling at night. In some places where the ranchers have shot, poisoned and otherwise killed off all the coyotes, it is too quiet at night. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #100 November 4, 2009 QuoteQuoteI hate them howling at night, and this is the time of the year where they're at their worst. Why? I kind of like the sound of wild animals roaming around, just like they have for thousands of years. Of course, I'm not a rancher with livestock to protect. But as a camper, I like the coyotes howling at night. In some places where the ranchers have shot, poisoned and otherwise killed off all the coyotes, it is too quiet at night. Agreed. The pack that lives by our DZ will go after the local calves despite their small size. The cattle really kick it up when they lose one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
