Libertarians and Anachists.

[Channman 2]

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>LA riots come to mind for you???
>How about Katrina????

Let's look at Katrina:

The government has been widely criticized (with some justification) for completely screwing up the response to Katrina. As I recall, you were one of the most vocal critics.

Yet even so:

92% of New Orleans evacuated, leaving about 32,000
Of those, 28,000 were stranded and unable to leave after the storm hit
Of those, 6000-8000 needed rescuing and 1800-2500 were killed

So by my numbers, between 92 and 97% of the people in New Orleans provably have a clue as to how to live without government protection.

http://www.abtassociates.com/reports/IPET_9_Hurricane_Katrina_Health_Effects.pdf

Bill, I thought the 1800 to 2500 death are on the high side. But I do agree that at least 97% can live without government protection.

> As of February 23, 2006, 950 bodies were examined at the St. Gabriel morgue. The results
of the examinations are available for 750 victims. The identity and cause of death of the
remaining victims have not been released. Of these 750 released cases, the Louisiana
coroner determined that Hurricane Katrina explicitly caused 727 fatalities. As
demonstrated in Table 2-1, the deaths were overwhelmingly among New Orleans metro
area residents, with only 2% of deaths among residents of other areas in Louisiana, visitors
from out of state, or people of unknown residence. Mortality was evenly distributed
by sex. However, only 46.5% of New Orleans metro area residents prior to the hurricane
were male, so males are somewhat over-represented among the identified dead. The
Louisiana Department of Health and Hospitals coroner determined that about two dozen
deaths were not “storm related,” instead occurring by “violence or suspicious
means.”(Bourque et al. 2006b

[Lucky... 0]

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I have not voted for a libertarian candidate in a presidential election since that vote would be pissed away in the larger scope.

I vote Libertarian any time that;

(a) my vote won't matter because the state I live in leans so heavily one way (California) or the other (Idaho), or;

(b) the GOP candidate is from the "moral majority" segment of that party.


I do vote for a fair number of Republicans. I've also (substantially less often) voted for some Democrats. But most of the time I end up voting for a Libertarian who has no chance of winning.

And people poo-poo my assertion that Repubs and Libertarians are but a few degrees apart?????

I've voted for a Libertarian for President, and donated to a Libertarian primary campaign. I've never voted for a Republican for President, and I was a delegate for Obama.

Blues,
Dave

Well that settles it, 1 guy breaks the mold so that impeaches my assertion!

There are aberrations everywhere, let's look at major themes and iconic people. Ron Paul is a great place to start, he was on Reagan's campaign crew, I thinka manager, then he rejected the Republican Party and in 08 he ran for office as a Repub in the primaries. It's no secret that many/most Libertarians started out life as a Republican, but now embrace Libertarian ideals, but many still vote Repub as they know a Liber vote is a wasted vote.

As well, I'm still registered R but haven't voted R since Dole. So there are all kinds of anomolies in politics, but I think it's well known that R logic and L logic aren't that far apart.

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Fact is they are moving towards capitalism and THAT is what is making them so powerful.

They have adopted a mixed economic system, and that is the most likely reason behind their success. Mixed economies can outperform socialist economies and capitalist economies by offering the best attributes of each.

Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials!

[Ron 10]

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Mixed economies can outperform socialist economies and capitalist economies by offering the best attributes of each.

I think that you would agree it is the move to capitalism that is making them powerful.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334

[futuredivot 0]

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I guess if you count all US aviation the US might be in the lead,

So, if we decide to tell the truth-you might be full of shit?

My "little" corner of the aviation marketplace is covering about 90% of every non-military craft in the air-and 90% of NATO military-fixed and rotor. Your vaunted Airbus example--I got parts on those big bastards too. A big portion of those birds is US technology produced by US companies without govt subsidies. Our drive for profit fuels our ingenuity.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[Ron 10]

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You make more and more sense every time I read your brilliance

Nice to see you can't have an adult discussion and have to resort to childish personal attacks.

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China still has a Communist collectivist system, they still have universal HC and all kinds of social and fiscal Communist controls; how are they Capitalist?

Private ownership, and a move towards greater private ownership. Now, if you had READ what I wrote instead of just running off at the mouth, you would have seen I said they were moving TOWARDS , not ARE capitalistic.

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Capitalism or Communism has to do with the means of production within, not their place on the global market as in how they distribute these goods, I think you have the two confused.

And them moving towards capitalism is what has made them an economic powerhouse.

It is pretty clear you have no clue about anything that deals with economics and are more interested in spouting your socialist agenda and insulting anyone that dares disagree with you.

1. You make lame personal affronts instead of discussing the issue.
2. You insult anyone that disagrees with you.
3. You refuse to listen and prefer to shout.
4. You don't have a grasp of the topic, yet claim expert status.

Have fun making yourself look silly.

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334