quade 4 #1 October 19, 2009 http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-swine-flu-crisis-propublica-sboct18,0,2336680.story Just curious if anybody down in Florida has a handle on Florida Surgeon General Ana M. Viamonte Ros,quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
birdshit 0 #2 October 19, 2009 Quotehttp://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-swine-flu-crisis-propublica-sboct18,0,2336680.story Just curious if anybody down in Florida has a handle on Florida Surgeon General Ana M. Viamonte Ros, Triage is a bitch. Buuut... It does make sense to save the people you CAN and unplug the ones you can't. Since swine flu season is even milder than normal flu season this year it won't come to the drastic measures that they are planning.,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #3 October 19, 2009 I understand triage on people that are going to eminently die, but refusing treatment on somebody with incurable cancer or multiple sclerosis seemed a bit much. As was "patients transferred to hospitals from "other institutional facilities," such as nursing homes and mental health facilities." It seems to me that some of those folks might live with minimal care, but they'd be turned away without even being evaluated.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 October 19, 2009 If any of these hospitals accdpts even a penny of Medicare (that all of them do is pretty much guaranteed) then EMTALA might have something else to say. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #5 October 19, 2009 As the Doctor shortages increase, I would expect to see more of this. Especially in Florida, the retirement state."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #6 October 19, 2009 This really bothers me..... it reminds me of Terri Schiavo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_involvement_in_the_Terri_Schiavo_case This is situation in Florida is a case of Involuntary Euthanasia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_euthanasia Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 October 19, 2009 QuoteThis is situation in Florida is a case of Involuntary Euthanasia. Good. It's high time we had a reliable source of Soylent Green. And we need something for those death panels to do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #8 October 19, 2009 They are considering options for a pandemic of the type that makes hospitals run out of equipment. They're not planning for anything likely, but, you know -- I plan for horseshoe malfunctions, and they're not real likely either. If there is a pandemic and it's looking like hospitals are going to be running out of respirators and other equipment like that, what is the best answer? How do hospitals prioritize? There isn't a good answer in such a situation. They are planning for a triage situation, we're not likely ever to get there. At least that's what I took out of the article. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 10 #9 October 19, 2009 QuoteIt seems to me that some of those folks might live with minimal care, but they'd be turned away without even being evaluated. You can't just make Dr's, Nurses, and supplies pop out of thin air. How would you handle a crisis with 300 people needing care and only the facilities/staff/supplies to handle 100?"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms." -- Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson Papers, 334 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #10 October 19, 2009 >This really bothers me..... ?? It's triage. It's common during emergencies. You save the ones you can, and prioritize them over the ones you can't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #11 October 19, 2009 QuoteQuoteIt seems to me that some of those folks might live with minimal care, but they'd be turned away without even being evaluated. You can't just make Dr's, Nurses, and supplies pop out of thin air. How would you handle a crisis with 300 people needing care and only the facilities/staff/supplies to handle 100? Declare it a right - that'll solve all the problems.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #12 October 19, 2009 These are the death panels the right are teling us about. If teh right weren't so stubborn they wouldn't fight a solution that would fix many problems current and many future: - Take the rest of the stimulus and a) start building hospitals all over the US b) start sending many people to med school / RN school - This would put the construction trades back to work and start to fill up the hospitals in future years - Unemployment would drop and employee taxes would climb - Move to a massive public option and charge a reasonable fee, causing the HMO's to drop fees or drop outof sight: only the rich would use them and they would be better if you had teh money. But, you see, the right would complain about that citing it would be socialism, yet when the F-22 gets scrubbed they cry. So they would rather epidemics control the human race and overbuild the military so that bombs control the human race. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #13 October 19, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteIt seems to me that some of those folks might live with minimal care, but they'd be turned away without even being evaluated. You can't just make Dr's, Nurses, and supplies pop out of thin air. How would you handle a crisis with 300 people needing care and only the facilities/staff/supplies to handle 100? Declare it a right - that'll solve all the problems. Declare it a privilege, that'll make it exclusive....oh wait, we're doing that now....NM. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
