rickjump1 0 #226 October 14, 2009 Maybe he gets credit for being a neighborhood organizer in tough Chicago.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #227 October 14, 2009 Geebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #228 October 14, 2009 QuoteGeebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Conservatives want Obama to fail, the country to fail and everyone to marvel in the glory of failure so they can reinstall their version of success. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #229 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteYowza! I've been out of the loop for a few days on news; and when I saw this was floored. All I can say is WTF? Thought a person actually had to accomplish something to win this. I think that people are too anxious about this. The committee always lists the accomplishments of the recipient. People need to calm down a little. A feeling of calm and a general consensus of direction are part of the list. Let's not undermine an accomplishment. Feelings are important. He took office on Jan 20th. He was nominated before the Feb 1st deadline. As well I would think an American would be proud of another American's victory. I guess some Americans have a different idea of patriotism. I don't do breast-beating patriotism. I'd prefer someone actually accomplished something tangible in order to be rewarded - regardless of their nationality, position, political party, etc. I guess for the Nobel decision makers, getting elected to the office and not being George Bush is good enough." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #230 October 14, 2009 Quote The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Why? People are fully entitled to render an opinion on the last winner of the Nobel, Best Picture Oscar, AL MVP...etc. If a particular award continues to make marginal choices, its perceived value will decrease. And become like a Grammy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #231 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteYowza! I've been out of the loop for a few days on news; and when I saw this was floored. All I can say is WTF? Thought a person actually had to accomplish something to win this. I think that people are too anxious about this. The committee always lists the accomplishments of the recipient. People need to calm down a little. A feeling of calm and a general consensus of direction are part of the list. Let's not undermine an accomplishment. Feelings are important. He took office on Jan 20th. He was nominated before the Feb 1st deadline. As well I would think an American would be proud of another American's victory. I guess some Americans have a different idea of patriotism. I don't do breast-beating patriotism. I'd prefer someone actually accomplished something tangible in order to be rewarded - regardless of their nationality, position, political party, etc. I guess for the Nobel decision makers, getting elected to the office and not being George Bush is good enough. And I imagine you sit there with popcorn, chewing your fingernails and hoping your guy wins the Nobel. Most people on here couldn't name a person other than Carter or Gore who won the Nobel, yet all this interest about Obama winning it. It smells real bad, we all know, if you are conservative yoiu hate Obama and hate the thought of him doing anything good. We get it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 897 #232 October 14, 2009 So the electoral college should get the prize? Obama didn't do that! Interesting albeit illogical leap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #233 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuote The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Why? People are fully entitled to render an opinion on the last winner of the Nobel, Best Picture Oscar, AL MVP...etc. If a particular award continues to make marginal choices, its perceived value will decrease. And become like a Grammy. I could understand him getting best actor, and maybe even AL MVP (he may not have Mauer's average, but he also hasn't struck out this season even a single time); but the Nobel?" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #234 October 14, 2009 Quote So the electoral college should get the prize? Obama didn't do that! Interesting albeit illogical leap. Actually it should have been given to all voters of Obama, they're the real heroes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #235 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuote The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Why? Why?!? Because it's not something you can do anything about. Voice your opinion on this particular subject until the cows come home and it has zero effect.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #236 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteGeebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Conservatives want Obama to fail, the country to fail and everyone to marvel in the glory of failure so they can reinstall their version of success.Holy shit, and you didn't want President George Bush to fail? Speaking of failure, the "anything but Bush" mental condition, has persisted so long, the Nobel Prize Committee has bought into it. They think they can now influence US foreign policy.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #237 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteGeebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Conservatives want Obama to fail, the country to fail and everyone to marvel in the glory of failure so they can reinstall their version of success.Holy shit, and you didn't want President George Bush to fail? Speaking of failure, the "anything but Bush" mental condition, has persisted so long, the Nobel Prize Committee has bought into it. They think they can now influence US foreign policy. No, I was doing well in that era. During Bush I lost my job, had my house foreclose and that was the worst 8 years of my life; I needed him to succeed and teh country to succeed or at least not go down the shitter. Of course when my life went down the shitter I wished worse than failure on him and his policies, but at the start I wanted him to just not fuck anything up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #238 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Why? Why?!? Because it's not something you can do anything about. Voice your opinion on this particular subject until the cows come home and it has zero effect. Actually, it's quite rare that public sentiment doesn't affect future results. In sports, refs won't reverse a shitty decision, but the make up call comes soon after. Part of the home field advantage. If the Nobel committee was seen as picking trendy and undeserving subjects, the prestige would go down. It would be hilarious if someone else (perhaps the Arab Nation) formed a new prize and started announcing it the day after. I think Obama getting it really cheapens Gore's award. You can debate if Al deserved it, but certainly there was much more substance to his contribution this decade. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #239 October 14, 2009 I don't see this as any worse than Mother Teresa winning it in 1979. A wonderful human being, but essentially zero contribution to peace in the world. The prize and its credibility survived.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #240 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGeebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Conservatives want Obama to fail, the country to fail and everyone to marvel in the glory of failure so they can reinstall their version of success.Holy shit, and you didn't want President George Bush to fail? Speaking of failure, the "anything but Bush" mental condition, has persisted so long, the Nobel Prize Committee has bought into it. They think they can now influence US foreign policy. No, I was doing well in that era. During Bush I lost my job, had my house foreclose and that was the worst 8 years of my life; I needed him to succeed and teh country to succeed or at least not go down the shitter. Of course when my life went down the shitter I wished worse than failure on him and his policies, but at the start I wanted him to just not fuck anything up. Sorry for you loss, and thanks for being candid about it. Hope you are back on track.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #241 October 14, 2009 Quote I don't see this as any worse than Mother Teresa winning it in 1979. A wonderful human being, but essentially zero contribution to peace in the world. The prize and its credibility survived. The wiki entry: Mother Teresa (August 26, 1910 – September 5, 1997), born Agnesë Gonxhe Bojaxhiu (pronounced [aɡˈnɛs ˈɡɔndʒe bɔjaˈdʒiu]), was an Albanian[2][3] Roman Catholic nun with Indian citizenship[4] who founded the Missionaries of Charity in Kolkata (Calcutta), India in 1950. For over 45 years she ministered to the poor, sick, orphaned, and dying, while guiding the Missionaries of Charity's expansion, first throughout India and then in other countries. By the 1970s she was internationally famed as a humanitarian and advocate for the poor and helpless, due in part to a documentary, and book, Something Beautiful for God by Malcolm Muggeridge. She won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979 and India's highest civilian honour, the Bharat Ratna, in 1980 for her humanitarian work. ---- 3 decades of improving the welfare of the poor is a significant contribution to peace. Unhappy populations are much more likely to fight others or themselves than those who are not hungry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #242 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteGeebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Conservatives want Obama to fail, the country to fail and everyone to marvel in the glory of failure so they can reinstall their version of success.Holy shit, and you didn't want President George Bush to fail? Speaking of failure, the "anything but Bush" mental condition, has persisted so long, the Nobel Prize Committee has bought into it. They think they can now influence US foreign policy. No, I was doing well in that era. During Bush I lost my job, had my house foreclose and that was the worst 8 years of my life; I needed him to succeed and teh country to succeed or at least not go down the shitter. Of course when my life went down the shitter I wished worse than failure on him and his policies, but at the start I wanted him to just not fuck anything up. Sorry for you loss, and thanks for being candid about it. Hope you are back on track. Thx very much, I appreciate that. I'm struggling to get back, I really need some kind of HC to pass to fix a few things. To be realistic, more than 1/2 of the blame goes to me, but I think Bush killing the Ergonomics Bill, trashing the Dept of Labor and the very Overtime Bill itself are really a huge part of my demise as well. You see Obama trying to get us HC, Bush spent his entire first term pushing the OT Bill thru which he finally did at the end of his 1st term. So after he did all that shit I really wanted him to fail, he was cuastic from all angles except from the rich. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #243 October 14, 2009 Quote Geebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Yep, you are correct. They made a political statement that had nothing to do with the intent of the award. YOU, are the one that needs to get over it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #244 October 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Why? Why?!? Because it's not something you can do anything about. Voice your opinion on this particular subject until the cows come home and it has zero effect. Yep, again you are correct. YOU cant do anything about others opinions "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #245 October 14, 2009 QuoteThey made a political statement that had nothing to do with the intent of the award. Would you explain to us what the intent of the award is?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #246 October 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Geebus H. Flippin' Christ on a cracker. Get over it. The Nobel Committee made a statement by giving him an award. They like him better than the last guy that was in office. Big flippin' deal. Move on already. Conservatives want Obama to fail, the country to fail and everyone to marvel in the glory of failure so they can reinstall their version of success. Holy shit, and you didn't want President George Bush to fail? Speaking of failure, the "anything but Bush" mental condition, has persisted so long, the Nobel Prize Committee has bought into it. They think they can now influence US foreign policy. No, I was doing well in that era. During Bush I lost my job, had my house foreclose and that was the worst 8 years of my life; I needed him to succeed and teh country to succeed or at least not go down the shitter. Of course when my life went down the shitter I wished worse than failure on him and his policies, but at the start I wanted him to just not fuck anything up. So, as usual, we have another victim. Had nothing to do with the choices you made I bet. I got to admit, you got the victim shit down pat. But it makes me feel stronger you are paid to post here."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #247 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteThey made a political statement that had nothing to do with the intent of the award. Would you explain to us what the intent of the award is? You tell me. No way to figure it out anymore cause of who and why it has been given"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #248 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteThey made a political statement that had nothing to do with the intent of the award. Would you explain to us what the intent of the award is? You tell me. No way to figure it out anymore cause of who and why it has been given See this post.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #249 October 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThey made a political statement that had nothing to do with the intent of the award. Would you explain to us what the intent of the award is? You tell me. No way to figure it out anymore cause of who and why it has been given See this post. Cool, you support my point"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #250 October 14, 2009 QuoteCool, you support my point I fail to see how, since I see Obama receiving the Nobel Prize as a positive thing and don't consider him undeserving.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
