jcd11235 0 #1 October 4, 2009 Do you consider your level of intelligence to be above average relative to other people in the developed world?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 October 4, 2009 I consider myself to be in the average range. Smart enough to know my limitations and smart enough to know to work hard. I don't believe an idiot can do what I do. An average person could do what I do. Others perceive me as higher intelligence. I guess that's what really matters. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #3 October 4, 2009 QuoteI consider myself to be in the average range. Smart enough to know my limitations and smart enough to know to work hard. I don't believe an idiot can do what I do. An average person could do what I do. Others perceive me as higher intelligence. I guess that's what really matters. How do you score on a test? IF we define intelligence as what is measured in an IQ test, then we can directly compare with the national norm.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #4 October 4, 2009 I would say I'm between average and above average. Borderline between the two. My IQ test score was 136 IIRC, but that's not the only measure of intelligence, far from it. I consider myself to have good common sense and how to live life and raise two girls. I may not be working at the moment but I'm not in dire straits. Life is good. Just don't ask me any questions about Calculus and I'm good. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #5 October 4, 2009 Quote I consider myself to be in the average range. Smart enough to know my limitations and smart enough to know to work hard. I have decreased my natural limitations with education and training. I was not "gifted" enough to have an inate knowledge of the human body - I had to STUDY and FOCUS my attention. With an average intelligence, you could read and learn about just about any topic.... "just about".... I still don't know if I believe closed string theory or open.... maybe if I were more intelligent, I would just know. -but this is with not having ever taken a "real" IQ test. I have no desire to be "limited" or have "higher expectations" because of a number. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #6 October 4, 2009 Quote Others perceive me as higher intelligence. I guess that's what really matters. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #7 October 4, 2009 >I still don't know if I believe closed string theory or open.... maybe if >I were more intelligent, I would just know. Well, as the smartest physicists in the world can't figure that one out either I wouldn't feel _too_ bad about it! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fanya 3 #8 October 4, 2009 I believe I'm smarter than average, not brilliant gifted smart but smarter. I usually say I'm too smart for my own good. In high school where people had to study for school and form good habits for college I got by doing homework before the class it was due, work 30 hours a week and still smoke weed 2-3 times a week. I went to college, did fairly well my first semester then my bad habits caught up to me and I said fuck it and quit school. I've done just fine since then doing whatever I wanted to do, never have been well off, but always had food, place to stay and money for spending. Now to ask that question here is a little bit of a catch22 imo. I think that skydivers as a whole are smarter than the average joe public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #9 October 5, 2009 Quotethe smartest physicists in the world can't figure that one out ..nor even, for that matter, can the average ones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #10 October 5, 2009 Quote I would say I'm between average and above average. Borderline between the two. My IQ test score was 136 IIRC, but that's not the only measure of intelligence, far from it. Depends how you define "intelligence", doesn't it? If you define it to be that which is measured with an IQ test, then it IS the only measure. If you want to add something else, then you need to define it so others can measure it too.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 October 5, 2009 Quote How do you score on a test? . 142. I cheated. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #12 October 5, 2009 QuoteQuote How do you score on a test? . 142. I cheated. Jim Kirk cheated on the Kobiyashi Maru test, and went on to have an illustrious career. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #13 October 5, 2009 QuoteQuote How do you score on a test? . 142. I cheated. So in terms of what is tested on an IQ test, you are way above average. sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm Of course, your social skills may suck.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #14 October 5, 2009 Since I virtually always placed in the top 20% of my classes in high school and college I guess that would put me above average. But I have always stood in awe at the ones who somehow always got the top scores and would never study or cheat. I wanted to be like them and strangle them all at once. HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #15 October 5, 2009 Interesting. At the time of writing this post 41/53 people (77%) believe they have above average intelligence, which is ironically about average. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kbordson 8 #16 October 5, 2009 QuoteSo in terms of what is tested on an IQ test, you are way above average. sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm Of course, your social skills may suck. Interesting link. I don't know what to truly think of the corruption and IQ list. There doesn't seem to be any exact relationship between IQ and level of corruption. The higher IQ's tend to be near the top of the list... but then there's outliers like China and South Korea (both under "5" on the corruption scale) and Oman, Bahrain, Botswana and Qatar (all above "5" but with lower IQ values) And I think that listing the average IQ's from different countries could just add to xenophobic opinions. ("our countries average iq is 'xx', so obviously as a country, we are smarter and know better than a country with an iq of 'xx'") - but the Causes of IQ differences among Countries was an interesting read. (edit to finish a thought) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #17 October 5, 2009 Quote At the time of writing this post 41/53 people (77%) believe they have above average intelligence, which is ironically about average. a. I'll bet that anyone who scores above about 105 consistently on an IQ test would consider themselves to be above average b. SC is seen as a scary place for some dz.commers -- maybe it self selects c. The majority of people with a score below 85 (truly below average) probably isn't on the internet, never mind SC. At least that's my theory. And remember that evolution and gravity are just theories, too Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
metalslug 36 #18 October 5, 2009 Most IQ testing authorities are encouraged to keep individual test scores confidential, even from the examinee. MENSA, for one, has a such a policy, and here's why: Logically, as an average, approximately half of all tested individuals will score below 100 and the other half will score above 100. Most examinees will want to know their results. The options for disclosing results are therefore: (1) Deny the results to all examinees. (2) Tell all examinees that they scored above average so as to allow them to feel good. (3) Candidly reveal the exact results to all examinees, thereby also informing below average examinees of their disadvantage. Anyone familiar with psychology or guidance counselling will know that option (3) has little constructive merit, and is therefore almost never done. Have you ever met a person who knows that they scored below 100? Neither have I. Why is that? ...and where might these people be ? In probability, they either: - Don't know their score (most likely). - Pretend to have an inflated score. - Falsely believe that they have an inflated score due to the testing policy of the testing authority. Perhaps something to consider if you should find that most people that you encounter in life are claiming an above average score. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Belgian_Draft 0 #19 October 5, 2009 QuoteInteresting. At the time of writing this post 41/53 people (77%) believe they have above average intelligence, which is ironically about average. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority Maybe SC has a following that is indeed higher than average IQ? Food for thought.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #20 October 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteInteresting. At the time of writing this post 41/53 people (77%) believe they have above average intelligence, which is ironically about average. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority Maybe SC has a following that is indeed higher than average IQ? Food for thought. Unlikely. My tested IQ is well above average, but I believe I would score well below average on some unmeasured elements that I consider to be a part of intelligence. For example, I'd consider creativity to be an important element of intelligence, and if one could objectively quantify it, I'd likely be found lacking. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #21 October 5, 2009 QuoteInteresting. At the time of writing this post 41/53 people (77%) believe they have above average intelligence, which is ironically about average. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority The results are pretty much as I expected. Illusory superiority is the concept I had in mind when I created the poll. What does surprise me is the number of people who believe their intelligence to be exactly average. Right now, that option makes up 10/61 of the responses. That number should be much closer to zero, even if, as Wendy suggests, SC self selects more intelligent among DZ.commers or the population at large.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #22 October 5, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteInteresting. At the time of writing this post 41/53 people (77%) believe they have above average intelligence, which is ironically about average. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusory_superiority Maybe SC has a following that is indeed higher than average IQ? Food for thought. Unlikely. My tested IQ is well above average, but I believe I would score well below average on some unmeasured elements that I consider to be a part of intelligence. For example, I'd consider creativity to be an important element of intelligence, and if one could objectively quantify it, I'd likely be found lacking. Blues, Dave It is nearly certain that a representative sample of the skydiving world will score above average. I suspect, but am less certain, that a representative DZ.com sample would score even better. But I have no idea if a representative SC sample would be better than the overall at DZ.com. Then throw in self selection bias in answering the poll. But what's known - the cost of skydiving skews the participant base towards the more affluent, which tend to have higher IQs. The requirements of the sport itself, while not requiring wealth or degrees, does require the ability to process information quickly, which is an aspect of intelligence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,108 #23 October 5, 2009 > I suspect, but am less certain, that a representative DZ.com sample >would score even better. This used to be true due to selection bias, but is becoming less true as more people are able to use the Net more easily. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #24 October 5, 2009 Quote Quote I would say I'm between average and above average. Borderline between the two. My IQ test score was 136 IIRC, but that's not the only measure of intelligence, far from it. Depends how you define "intelligence", doesn't it? If you define it to be that which is measured with an IQ test, then it IS the only measure. If you want to add something else, then you need to define it so others can measure it too. Well said. A lot of people speak very negatively about formalized testing; but it's the formal part of it (being normed and all) that does make it a valid measurement. I know of no other. I think what gets people's undies in a bundle about it is that they jump to judgements about what it means about them or others. All it means is that a person can assimilate and process information at a higher than average rate of speed; and maybe a little bonus for stored knowledge. It does not mean a person is good or bad, or that they are worthy or unworthy, etc. It's just a number that measures an ability to process information quickly. BTW - 136 puts a person in (at a minimum) the 98th percentile. Not average, not even the high end of average. Average is 100, and the range of average is usually defined as something like 85 to 115; maybe 80 to 120. The curve gets pretty steep below 80 and above 120." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #25 October 5, 2009 Quote Have you ever met a person who knows that they scored below 100? Neither have I. Why is that? ...and where might these people be ? Bonfire. " . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
