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Which City Will Win the Olympic Games in 2016

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Obama continues to be a disaster.
The whole world is making a mockery of him.
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Oh really? Which part of the world, f. e.?

Perhaps, you just confused him with good old GWB? :P



Yet again. To "both sides"

This wasn't a "black eye" to President Obama. NOR was it a reflection on prior President Bush. But nice attempt to spin.


Rio won. That's it. With what ever reasons they used - Rio was best.


Don't forget that some posters response are not to be viewed as logic.


So, why do you still post, then?


He is just trying to help you:P
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Obama continues to be a disaster.
The whole world is making a mockery of him.
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Oh really? Which part of the world, f. e.?

Perhaps, you just confused him with good old GWB? :P



Yet again. To "both sides"

This wasn't a "black eye" to President Obama. NOR was it a reflection on prior President Bush. But nice attempt to spin.


Rio won. That's it. With what ever reasons they used - Rio was best.


Don't forget that some posters response are not to be viewed as logic.


So, why do you still post, then?


You just proved my point.

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It's odd to see all the conservatives celebrating the loss of the Olympics



Don't include me in your post. I'm a conservative but I wasn't celebrating the final vote. The games are fun to watch and provide an abundance of business for local community, but they don't actually do shit for my life.

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>Don't include me in your post. I'm a conservative but I wasn't celebrating
>the final vote.

Sorry, should have said "it's odd to see conservatives celebrating the loss of the Olympics." Let's hope that other more rational conservatives start distancing themselves from these idiots.

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Wow. What a bunch of navel gazing.
-The rest of the world doesn't see anything unusual about the Prez cheerleading for an American city.
-The rest of the world does not see Chicago as one of the worlds more corrupt places, nor does it have a crime rate that even remotely compares with places like Rio.
For example the homicide rate last year was 33/100 000 down from 39/ source versus Chicago at 18/100 000 up from 15.6 source.



Great post - both data and commentary. I appreciate the view from the outside looking in on our domestic politics.

/Marg

Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters.
Tibetan Buddhist saying

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BTW, here's my brother's viewpoint (the one who's lived in both places for extended periods).
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My take:
Corruption - Rio has much more petty corruption, it is much more pervasive. Chicago is the big leagues - far fewer cases but FAR more money, and they are truly pros. Getting stuff done in Chicago would require far more greasing, but ... If you pay, it WILL get done and get done right. Just cost a lot. In Rio it's much less money but far more hands ... and no guarantee that it will make a difference. And most importantly, the common man does not see any evidence of corruption in Chicago, it is institutionalized. In Rio, everyone has a decent chance of being hit with it.

Violence - hands down, more of a risk in Rio. Big and small. It will be a big risk for the Olympians and the spectators. I really think Chicago could control it for an Olympics, I have serious doubts Rio will be able to.

All that said, I am THRILLED Rio got it. It will make much more of a difference for Rio, Brazil, and Latin America. And IF it is pulled off well, serious long term benefits. A chance to show they are ready to move up with the big boys.



Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

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