billvon 3,116 #51 October 2, 2009 >You are turning this into a bush bash You're right. It was totally unfair of Wendy to interrupt your Obama bash. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #52 October 2, 2009 The president should not have involved himself, it seemed to be in very poor taste to have a sitting US President plead Chicago's case. Now having been rejected that helps the USA how? Does that make you angry or proud of Obamacles? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #53 October 2, 2009 I think your poll was read by the IOC and sealed the deal "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #54 October 2, 2009 I heard on the radio (NPR) that Brazil was making the case that it was high time an Olympics was hosted in South America. So now it looks like they've got their chance. Why not just congratulate them ? I'd just be concerned about Rio's notorious crime rate. IIRC, several members of the US Parachute Team were relieved of their wallets at the beach back in the day when a World Championship was hosted in Rio. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #55 October 2, 2009 Quote I personally believe he diminished the office by going to Copenhagen. Why? He made a pitch, but ultimately, unless Rio's bid was not deemed credible for success, it was going to South America. If he hadn't gone, people would bitch and moan that he didn't use his international star power to further it. As for following the examples of the past, SLC was known for bribery. Were you proposing Chicago stick to its established methods, or did you mean something else? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #56 October 2, 2009 QuoteIn case you did not notice that around the world Chicago is viewed as the most corrupt city in the western world and possibly the entire world. as much as i dislike chicago, i find it hard to believe its the most corrupt, or even viewed as the most currupt city in the western or entire world. i have no doubt that it would be seeded very highly in the us city corruption playoffs, but i'm sure there are plenty of cities around the world that would dominate chicago. btw, why would you spend 44 years there? "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #57 October 2, 2009 Not responding to any specific post, but... I think the USA has hosted enough Olympics (more than any other country in the world), and think that it's time to have it where it hasn't been held. Rio just might put on a great show for all we know."Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #58 October 2, 2009 My entire family is here. I also have strong ties to several things here. Remember that my family was once "sort of" powerful here. (a little over 50 years) It made up for the fact that this place has so many rules that most people have to put up with. When I was a little boy I could walk down Lake St. in Melrose Park with a $10 in my hand and not a sould would bother me. Adults would address me as "Mister" my Nono was a very respected man. (and an honest man) Uncle Tony was a hell of a guy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #59 October 2, 2009 Very true Billy and even more reason that politicians and media moguls should have stayed out of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #60 October 2, 2009 Quote Very true Billy and even more reason that politicians and media moguls should have stayed out of it. I'm already calling dibs on who gets to light the Olympic flame there, if he's still alive then. Pele!!! "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #61 October 2, 2009 QuoteIf he hadn't gone, people would bitch and moan that he didn't use his international star power to further it. That's the beauty of it. Either way, it offers an opportunity to bitch about Obama. It's a great example of the Bart Simpson paradox, damned if you do, damned if you don't.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #62 October 2, 2009 He will be there with his arm ready!Nobody would be more deserving unless Jim Thorpe came back from the dead. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 35 #63 October 2, 2009 Quote He will be there with his arm ready!Nobody would be more deserving unless Jim Thorpe came back from the dead. How about kicking a flaming soccer ball from the field to the cauldron? As long as he doesn't try to head it in, he should be okay. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #64 October 2, 2009 Oh yeah! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #65 October 2, 2009 QuoteNot responding to any specific post, but... I think the USA has hosted enough Olympics (more than any other country in the world), and think that it's time to have it where it hasn't been held. Rio just might put on a great show for all we know. Who wants to get mugged in a crappy place like Chicago? I wanna get mugged in a crappy place like Rio. Can you think of a better way to help the poor?Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #66 October 2, 2009 What I am finding much more interesting is the "news" casters from places like MSNBC and Chicagol's local talking heads. The Youtuve videos of these people makes you believe they are nuts. Statements (before) like with Obama going it is in the bag, he will make all the difference, the reaction of the IOC panel and how they treated him like a "rock star" and they even called him something like a "rock star" makes you think he has made the difference!Then, the Youtube vid of the Chicago reporters face and comments when Chicago went down round one. He was utterly stunned and shockedAll will be forgiven and forgotten by tomorrow. Small thing is the context of all that is going on today. Still, it is funny to watch "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #67 October 2, 2009 I wanted to chime in on this thread as well: After Chicago was eliminated I immediately went with Rio - because of some of the reasons people mentioned here and some additional reasons. 1) the South America thing. I don't think it's actually the biggest reason, but a good one. 2) The World Cup there in 2014 will give them a feeling of how Brazil handles a big event, and what they need to fix in time for 2016. Also, a lot of infrastructure needed will get built for the World Cup so that's a lot less uncertainty in terms of facilities. 3) I'm not sure why Chicago didn't make it but maybe it's displeasure of the IOC with the US for previous games (1996, 2002), but I think that as soon as Chicago was out, I was sure Rio would win because of TV.... The biggest reason I thought Chicago would win is not because of which city was most capable of showcasing the best games (I believe all 4 probably would have done a great job). I thought Chicago would win because from what I understand, the biggest revenue maker is TV rights for the IOC, and the biggest TV contract is one usually paid out by an American TV network. NBC has the rights now, and I think they expire sometime soon - so the bidding would likely be between NBC and ESPN/ABC (and maybe the others, I don't know). Given that it seems like Olympic apathy is growing in the US, and that from what I recall hearing, the TV ratings for Beijing were not that good (all from memory, so i could be completely off). I'd think the IOC would want to court favor with the networks that pay the big bucks and give the Olympics to an American city to stir interest again. Once Chicago was out, I felt Rio would get it because they could still show the Olympics live here at a decent hour. I'm sure the tape-delay from Beijing (with results being available instantly online) did not help NBC last year. My 2 cents. Also, i started this message like 3 hrs ago and then actually had to do work, so i'm sure by now someone has covered these same points. Tomas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,588 #68 October 2, 2009 Quotei'm sure by now someone has covered these same points.Naw, they're too busy talking about Obama. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #69 October 2, 2009 >The president should not have involved himself, it seemed to be in >very poor taste to have a sitting US President plead Chicago's case. If he hadn't your post would have read "the president should have involved himself; it shows how uncaring he is that he couldn't even be bothered to try to help out the US after his term is over." >Does that make you angry or proud of Obamacles? Neither. But I am certain that no matter what happens, you will take it as further reason to hate him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BDashe 0 #70 October 2, 2009 hate is such a strong word... let the public know it shall now be referred to as 'man made negative emotion towards another man (or woman)' So there I was... Making friends and playing nice since 1983 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robskydiv 0 #71 October 2, 2009 C'mon, it's got to be held in Rio. Can't even compare it to Crack city. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #72 October 2, 2009 Quote I wanna get mugged in a crappy place like Rio. I hear the women are better looking.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #73 October 2, 2009 Quote If he hadn't your post would have read "the president should have involved himself; it shows how uncaring he is that he couldn't even be bothered to try to help out the US after his term is over." You have that little confidence in warpedskydiver's considered opinion?We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #74 October 2, 2009 Quote But I am certain that no matter what happens, you will take it as further reason to hate him. I don't see that.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #75 October 2, 2009 What's wrong with the President playing cheerleader for the US in an attempt to attract a sporting event with economic implications? Personally, I don't see an unsuccessful effort as a negative for him. Better to try and fail than not try at all, especially when opponents are drooling for an opportunity to bash you over any failure. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites