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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.



In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:

a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.

YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will

MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.

With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.

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Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.



My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.

Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.

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Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.



It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.



No dude. I has to do with you bastardize the definition of duty. And, YOUR dedinition of what is right.

You are worse than those you condem sir
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Why is compassion confined to what affects you, personally? That's not very big of you. I'm thinking, once the One World Government starts, then we each owe a duty to all men.



You're posturing to make a point you don't agree with. You wouldn't have 1 dime MANDATORILY allocated to another country for welfare, but you;re arguing that you would as an attempt to debunk my point. I feel a MUCH greater loyalty to my country before others, as do you, you just feel no compassion to poor people anywhere.

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Then, we can, seriously, start exploring space, because I'm sure there are Galactical Ghettos, out there, somewhere, where beings are being deprived of their right, to free space travel.



And this refutes any notion that you're not posturing. We get it; fuck poor people.

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One Liners that some it up:

Liberals- Want to give hand outs

conservatives- Want to give jobs



Hm. Logically, that means that moderates want to give out hand jobs.


No they don't. I can't even get a reach-around form any one in government:D:D
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Data like this?


To have the vile hatred toward poor people to want to deny them basic social svs under the guise of fairness requires the formation of mens rea, hence they cannot be autistic. If they were they would have an excuse for their depraved sense of humainity.



No, I was thinking more of data like this that you ran from and didn't address:

JUSTIN: Given that we're 12,000,000,000,000 in the hole, I'd say it's a fair assumption.

LUCKY: Reagan and GWB are responsible for that in the way of tax cuts and military spending. GWHB and Clinton raised taxes and sharply cut the military which is how we got into the 12T debt we are. Under Clinton that mess was terminated, which was setup by GHWB's tax increases and spending cuts. Can you really argue that?


It was conservatives who ran that up, now that Dems are fixing it AGAIN we're the devil for wanting to provide HC.

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LUCKY...: Explain how Canada is beating our dollar, has been since GWB, yet they afford uni-care.

JUSTIN: Well, the fed is printing money like it's going out of style, and they have politicians that can think of something other than spending more money - it appears that all of out politicians try to spend their way out of everything.

LUCKY...: As Clinton took office it took $1.28 Canadian to buy $1 US. As he left it was $1.55 Canadian to buy $1 US. Under GWB the US Dollar fell below the Candian dollar a year before he left, then when the market crashed people pulled out and stuck it in bonds which gave him a little bump to $1.20ish. Still, even with the bump, under Clinton with tax increases the US Dollar gained considerable value, so once again your point is your personal rhetoric rather than fact.


So, that is data, I can provide a link if you think it's flawed. How is HC the real killer if nations with uni-care are able to beat our dollar? Just answer it and quit misdirecting. Oh, they don't pipe off billions to Halliburton? I see.

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LUCKY...: You don't say, which explains why you skirted the question of how Republicans/Conservatives are compassionate to needy people.

JUSTIN: Tell me, how is giving someone other peoples' money compassionate? How is enabling welfare dependency compassionate?

LUCKY...: THERE IS NO CONNECTION BETWEEN TAX OUTLAYS AND TAX REVENUE OTHER THAN AN INDIRECT JUNCTION AT THE DEBT / DEFICIT, and that is very indirect. How is it compassion overboosting a military that is not needed at its level and spends 8 times that of the #2 spender while there are homeless and other issues? See, you just can't bring yourself to say, 'FUCK THE POOR' BUT WE KNOW THAT'S WHAT YOU MEAN.

So how is there a connection. draw the map from your pocket to the welfare office. Establish how taxation rates and outlays arre mutually considered in fact. In rhetoric they are, but they are not factored simultaneously other than with bond measures. The caviat to that might be the HCV Bill maight have a provision for CEO's to tax their massive HC as a luxury, but for you and me...naddda.

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Take it as what you want, but don't confuse unwilling with unable.



Unwilling to work vs unable.... make that more clear.

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I gotta think he is getting paid to post here and other sites.



This explains volumes. Paranoia transitioning into dellusion.


Paranioa??

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Where the hell did that come from:D

You just have so much time to miss-spell everything here you must not have a job:ph34r::ph34r:



:D

Paranioa

YOU are funny:D


It's paranoid to think the liberal conspiracy is out there paying people post on forums.

Not to mention your stark desperation to make a point, but cannot substantively, so you defer to grammar.

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I gotta think he is getting paid to post here and other sites.



This explains volumes. Paranoia transitioning into dellusion.


Paranioa??

:D

Where the hell did that come from:D

You just have so much time to miss-spell everything here you must not have a job:ph34r::ph34r:



:D

Paranioa

YOU are funny:D


It's paranoid to think the liberal conspiracy is outthere paying people post on forums.


You are a conspiracy?:D:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.



In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:

a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.

YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will

MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.

With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.

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Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.



My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.

Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.

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Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.



It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.



No dude. I has to do with you bastardize the definition of duty. And, YOUR dedinition of what is right.

You are worse than those you condem sir



A more intelligent and complete response would be for you to then explain how I allegedly bastardize, "duty."

You need to describe what I define duty as, then explain how that is incorrect and what the correct version is.

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I gotta think he is getting paid to post here and other sites.



This explains volumes. Paranoia transitioning into dellusion.


Paranioa??

:D

Where the hell did that come from:D

You just have so much time to miss-spell everything here you must not have a job:ph34r::ph34r:



:D

Paranioa

YOU are funny:D


It's paranoid to think the liberal conspiracy is outthere paying people post on forums.


You are a conspiracy?:D:D


But if you hear of a job where I can post on internet forums and get paid, LMK. Until then, go outside and wave off the helicopters.

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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.



In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:

a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.

YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will

MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.

With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.

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Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.



My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.

Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.

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Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.



It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.


No dude. I has to do with you bastardize the definition of duty. And, YOUR dedinition of what is right.

You are worse than those you condem sir


A more intelligent and complete response would be for you to then explain how I allegedly bastardize, "duty."

You need to describe what I define duty as, then explain how that is incorrect and what the correct version is.


Hey, Mr Conspiracy, I dont have to define anythiing. YOU have already done it. And it does not fit in Websters:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Why is compassion confined to what affects you, personally? That's not very big of you. I'm thinking, once the One World Government starts, then we each owe a duty to all men.

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You're posturing to make a point you don't agree with. You wouldn't have 1 dime MANDATORILY allocated to another country for welfare, but you;re arguing that you would as an attempt to debunk my point. I feel a MUCH greater loyalty to my country before others, as do you, you just feel no compassion to poor people anywhere.


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Then, we can, seriously, start exploring space, because I'm sure there are Galactical Ghettos, out there, somewhere, where beings are being deprived of their right, to free space travel.

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And this refutes any notion that you're not posturing. We get it; fuck poor people.

Which poor people? The one's in my family, my neighborhood, my nation, my continent, my world?
You have drawn a line, as to the nation, but the truth is, you really don't have a heart of compassion, but one of vengence.... You want those people, who, somehow, have gained more than you, in life, to suffer, for being successful, and the only way that you can do it, is to have the govt. steal it, at the point of a gun.

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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.



In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:

a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.

YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will

MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.

With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.

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Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.



My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.

Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.

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Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.



It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.


No dude. I has to do with you bastardize the definition of duty. And, YOUR dedinition of what is right.

You are worse than those you condem sir


A more intelligent and complete response would be for you to then explain how I allegedly bastardize, "duty."

You need to describe what I define duty as, then explain how that is incorrect and what the correct version is.


Hey, Mr Conspiracy, I dont have to define anythiing. YOU have already done it. And it does not fit in Websters:D


"...I don't have to..." TRANSLATION: I just can't, I just wrote that w/o thinking.

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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.



In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:

a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.

YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will

MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.

With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.

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Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.



My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.

Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.

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Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.



It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.


No dude. I has to do with you bastardize the definition of duty. And, YOUR dedinition of what is right.

You are worse than those you condem sir


A more intelligent and complete response would be for you to then explain how I allegedly bastardize, "duty."

You need to describe what I define duty as, then explain how that is incorrect and what the correct version is.


Hey, Mr Conspiracy, I dont have to define anythiing. YOU have already done it. And it does not fit in Websters:D


"...I don't have to..." TRANSLATION: I just can't, I just wrote that w/o thinking.



How does it feel to marginalized?:o:D:D

And you did it to yourself:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Why is compassion confined to what affects you, personally? That's not very big of you. I'm thinking, once the One World Government starts, then we each owe a duty to all men.

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You're posturing to make a point you don't agree with. You wouldn't have 1 dime MANDATORILY allocated to another country for welfare, but you;re arguing that you would as an attempt to debunk my point. I feel a MUCH greater loyalty to my country before others, as do you, you just feel no compassion to poor people anywhere.


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Then, we can, seriously, start exploring space, because I'm sure there are Galactical Ghettos, out there, somewhere, where beings are being deprived of their right, to free space travel.

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And this refutes any notion that you're not posturing. We get it; fuck poor people.

Which poor people? The one's in my family, my neighborhood, my nation, my continent, my world?
You have drawn a line, as to the nation, but the truth is, you really don't have a heart of compassion, but one of vengence.... You want those people, who, somehow, have gained more than you, in life, to suffer, for being successful, and the only way that you can do it, is to have the govt. steal it, at the point of a gun.

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The ones we have a duty to. Funny how the conservatives wave their flag ferociously about god and country, then they include the world when it's convenient.

No, I want to mandate evryone have a resonable baseline, you want American poor to beg for little. And when I say poor, I'm talling struggling young families and others that in your world wouldn't be despicable.

You want a classist society.

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Good, because I don't understand that. BTW, you use one-liners and answer questions other than that of which was asked because that is your protocol. Remember Palin during the debates? She was constantly answering different question than that of which she was asked; remember? Of course not.



Whether you like it or not, the world has gone to short sound bites so they can cherry pick conversations to distort the truth. Most people now a days are ADHD and can't pay attention to more than 30 seconds of sound bite. Anything worth knowing now a days requires a little research. I don't claim to be democrat or republican, but I do claim conservative because both parties lie and all the truths I found are in the conservative realm.

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Liberals want to ensure economic security and HC. Conservatives want to give sub-minimum wage jobs to illegals. If ya don't think so, then answer why Reagan gave them all amnesty in 1986.



Once again, you are off. I am conservative and I want to kick all the illegals out. Americans won't take the jobs because they don't pay enough to support their families, but when they have to hire americans, I'm thinking the wages will go up or the farmers will have to pick the crops them selves. Will there be pain when the cost of produce goes up? Yes, but all the pain could have been avoided if the country hadn't hired all the illegals at $2 an hour. The markets will have to adjust, just like they are adjusting right now for the housing crisis.

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Then perhaps, in your infinite wisdom, explain how the unemployment rate over the last 28 years, actually longer but it's a good refrence point, why is it that the unemp rate has been faaar higher with an R in office than in times when a D has been in office. See, your points just fall thru when a GD liberal comes along and drops data on you. BTW, just ask and I will provide a link.



Your missing a very important point. An "R" may have been in the executive branch, but who was in charge of congress? During the Clinton years with a Republican congress, life was good. The last couple of years of the Bush administration with a Democratic congress sucked. The Democratic congress has not missed a chance to hang their mistakes on Bush. Fact no matter what Polosi says. Barney Frank sponsored the housing bills that allowed the banks to give loans to people who don't qualify.

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Then explain how during the Great Depression, as it kicked off, Hoover lowered taxes and the GD slipped deeper into unemployment and total hazzard. Then at the end of Hoover's term, he realized he fucked up after unemployment was 25% and raised taxes, FDR did too and the unemployment rate dropped every year from 1933 thru the war with the exception of 1937-38 when there was a mid-reecovery recession. Then explain how during the Reagan years we had the highest unemp rate since the GD at 10.8%....BTW, he cut taxes too, incredibly. Then as GWB entered office he cut taxes and shed the most jobs in some time.

Also, explain how Clinton inherited 7% unemployment, sharply raised taxes and then dropped the debt increase to virtually level, took a 290B deficit that turned to a 236B surplus 8 years later and unemployment was left at 4%.

I know, I know, you will find something else to talk about. BTW, if anyone wants a data reference for any/all of this, LMK.



There were a lot of factors during the GD that kept it going like the Great Dust Bowl and some people even say that the creation of all the social programs is what prolonged it for 10 years. Everyone agrees that WWII is what got us out. Industry. When america started to produce, we came out.

Yes, Clinton raised taxes, but also under the Republican congress, government shrank. With a smaller government controlling the people, they started to work and things were good again.

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Yes, we're guilty of unfucking the R mess, as stated above.



Since you brought it up, are you still going to be blaming the "R" party 10 years from now like the Great Depression? How long do you get before the problem is yours?

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See, listen to your rhetoric, I post historically accurate facts and you post some BS about weak-kneed liberals this and tough Republican that. Try posting some factual data (unemp, debt, deficit, etc) unless that is hard to do to support your position.



My point comes from the fact that our country has one of the hugest trade deficits of all time. Our nation has became a nation of consumers and we don't produce anything any more. To fix the economy we have to have an even give and take. I can't buy anything unless I earn something. Same with the US. As a whole, we have something to offer before we buy any more. The answer is industry.

Government does not produce anything. All the government can do is print more money and redistribute. That is not going to even us out as a country. Taxes on the rich are already above %50. If you take it all, there is no way they can invest in new industries.

I don't agree with it, but this is the main reason why the car companies got the bail outs. They are the largest industry and the producers of something left in the county. They needed to fail and be restructured to be stronger and more efficient. The corrupt labor unions are still making the industry weak, and that is dangerous for America.

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And even that, tuition at my local univ at least doubled, so you can't even teach a man to fish w/o dropping the bank while under Republican rule.

Nice cliches, address ALL of the data.



So, you want me to answer why liberal colleges are bumping up rates on tuition collected on rich Republican Business men and entitled Democratic lawyers and politician trust fund babies? I don't know, because they can?

I think it's crap my self, but remember, most colleges are liberal, and most liberals like Al Gore, want to redistribute YOUR wealth, not theirs. See also Charles Rangle.

I'm sure you will find fault in all of this, but it's really not the fault of any one party. The Republicans, in an effort to make a quick buck have shipped a lot of jobs over seas and the Democrats in an effort to "Keep America Green" are not letting them come back.

We as a nation are stuck with a weak economy until we start producing something again. As I stated earlier, the government doesn't produce anything. A large government is just a big money sucking bureaucracy. It's the opposite of what we are trying to accomplish.
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The ones we have a duty to. Funny how the conservatives wave their flag ferociously about god and country, then they include the world when it's convenient.

No, I want to mandate evryone have a resonable baseline, you want American poor to beg for little. And when I say poor, I'm talling struggling young families and others that in your world wouldn't be despicable.

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You want a classist society

I've always said that there can never be true anarchy. You know why? Because someone will want to decide that they can tell fifty people on their block, how to act, and this entitles them to the big screen TV, Everyone else gets a little 19 incher.
That is why any true socialist redistribution, regardless of the name,in front of the ism, has been a failed experiment.
Someone always thinks that they are the one, who gets to drive the tractor, instead of hoeing the weeds.
Wouldn't it be wonderful, if we were all of a truly altruistic heart and mind.
The fact is, the largest portion, of those, permanently embedded in the govt. dole system, display the same attitude as the socialist, who has determined that it's his right to drive the tractor.
They believe that it is their right, to get a check, from the govt. just because they exist.
In the true socialist system, where every man gives his all, then gets an even portion back, these people would starve to death, because they choose to give nothing, but want an equal share.
Why do you support such an attitude?

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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.



In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:

a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.

So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.

YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will

MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.

With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.

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Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.



My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.

Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.

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Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.



It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.


No dude. I has to do with you bastardize the definition of duty. And, YOUR dedinition of what is right.

You are worse than those you condem sir


A more intelligent and complete response would be for you to then explain how I allegedly bastardize, "duty."

You need to describe what I define duty as, then explain how that is incorrect and what the correct version is.


Hey, Mr Conspiracy, I dont have to define anythiing. YOU have already done it. And it does not fit in Websters:D


"...I don't have to..." TRANSLATION: I just can't, I just wrote that w/o thinking.



How does it feel to marginalized?:o:D:D

And you did it to yourself:D


How does that marginalize me? And check your grammar windows before you criticize me.

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And check your grammar windows before you criticize me.



If you are the grammar police, we are in twouble!

As for your point, I think you should definitely limit your attempts at thievery to your own country.
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Your way to address the poverty issue is similar to the "no child left behind" theory of education, would you agree?



You only need to read this forum for about 15 minutes and you will see a hell of a lot of children who were left behind and grew up blaming the educators for their personal shortcomings , rather than taking the initiative to better themselves. So much for all those republican right wingers here who demand OTHERS to take responsibility for their lives, yet they have never taken any for themselves.

By the way I have this great pre-existing condition now that my wonderful health insurance ( United Health Care) never paid for. Thanks
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And check your grammar windows before you criticize me.



If you are the grammar police, we are in twouble!

As for your point, I think you should definitely limit your attempts at thievery to your own country.




- I'm not teh grammar police, just responding to Rush, who played grammar police on me. When Rush gets stuck, he turns to grammar, not me, I want people to adddress my data and other points.

- Have you not figured out that I'm an AMerican here in America and that the Zimbabwe thing was for fun? No wonder you're conservative, you believe everything you read.

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You only need to read this forum for about 15 minutes and you will see a hell of a lot of children who were left behind and grew up blaming the educators for their personal shortcomings



No, they blame the poor for supposedly being the drag for all taxes.

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And check your grammar windows before you criticize me.



If you are the grammar police, we are in twouble!

As for your point, I think you should definitely limit your attempts at thievery to your own country.



- I'm not teh grammar police, just responding to Rush, who played grammar police on me. When Rush gets stuck, he turns to grammar, not me, I want people to adddress my data and other points.

- Have you not figured out that I'm an AMerican here in America and that the Zimbabwe thing was for fun? No wonder you're conservative, you believe everything you read.


Dude:D:D:D:D

Are you serious???


You really did miss the irony or you have not paid attention to what has happened here in the past:D:D:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Well, I haven't paid attention to your Zimbabweism till just now. Ya see, I was refering to the post where you condone thievery, but not international thievery. That's terribly inconsiderate of you, but I'll give you the chance to redeem yourself.

Over the past several years, how much have you given to charity? Have you ever paid for a poor person's medical care?
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