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I didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.
Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.
Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.
QuoteI guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destity of the aid.
Your words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.
Why does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.
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I recognize the fact that it would cost hundreds, if not thousands, to process my little .60 worth of taxes, so, being the generous conservative, that I am, I simply redistributed it, as I saw fit.... The govt. owes me a commission, due to saving them all of that money, on bureaucratic processing.QuoteDo you declare as income and pay taxes on your 30% cut, or do you feel that it's okay for those with the capital to subscribe to the "gimme attitude?"
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QuoteI recognize the fact that it would cost hundreds, if not thousands, to process my little .60 worth of taxes, so, being the generous conservative, that I am, I simply redistributed it, as I saw fit.... The govt. owes me a commission, due to saving them all of that money, on bureaucratic processing.QuoteDo you declare as income and pay taxes on your 30% cut, or do you feel that it's okay for those with the capital to subscribe to the "gimme attitude?"
I see. So, you acknowledge that you're stealing money from taxpayers. Fair enough. There's much to be said for honesty.
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Lucky... 0
QuoteI will take your so called neoconservative economics any day. It is easy to hang on to when those like you stop lying and bastardizing what really happens.
So you're going to ignire that entire long response I made and reply with nothing; wwe get it, you agree that the Repubs / Conservs are incompassionate - it's not a newsflash.
QuoteAnd you know, I spent more time fixing spelling errors you made here than I did posting. (at least in the parts I replied to)
This sticks the last fork in it, you can't defend your position, so you resort to typos. WHat's next; syntax?
Royd 0
Say, Africa. Saudi definitely has the ability to pay, and Africa certainly the need. That's compassion on a global scale, no?
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Why is compassion confined to what affects you, personally? That's not very big of you. I'm thinking, once the One World Government starts, then we each owe a duty to all men. Then, we can, seriously, start exploring space, because I'm sure there are Galactical Ghettos, out there, somewhere, where beings are being deprived of their right, to free space travel.QuoteAnd there inlies my point: Saudi has no duty to Africa, this country has a basic duty to its people for basic welfare and you disagree, defining my position that conservatives are incompassionate toward American poor people.
Lucky... 0
QuoteI recently met a kid, who moved in, across the street, and have gotten to know him.
His dad is on govt. subsistance, due to medical problems, so the kid, pretty much, has the 'gimme' attitude, ingrained in him.
That's it, a non-random sample size of 1; I'm convinced. I say we line them up and shoot em.
QuoteHe wanted to borrow my mower, to make some money, but thought that I should lend it to him, for free, since he considers me a friend.
Hmmm, how can I make money from the poor....hmmmm?
QuoteI told him that I get 30% of the gross, because it's not a cheap mower.... He has to pay for the gas.
And then maybe you could loan-shark him; offer to lend him the money for the gas at 50% interest. Then maybe become his bookie. And tehn you won him.....sounds so.... I dunno....Republican.
QuoteI caught him lying about how much money he had made, and told him that he had three choices. Pay me the money, which he owed me, mow my yard or never use my mower, again.
I think incarceration would have been better, you're such a nice guy for letting him off easy.
QuoteWhich attitude, do you think, taught him the greatest life lesson?
Yours that told him he would never not be indebted to you.
QuoteSure, here's my mower. Go, tear it up, or this is how the real world works, economically?
Why not give him a chance to buy your mower from you by paying you most of his income until it's paid off, taht way he feels he has a chance at ownership. Your example really defines conservative practice. They just keep you dragging along with little chance of autonomy. There's always an ownership in there somewhere.
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QuoteIf I'm going to waste time arguing on the internet, I'm going to at least find someone I can have an actual conversation with.
Lucky seems to like taking what you said, paraphrasing or interpreting it into his own view, and then arguing his point against his view of your point.
In the end, it's just annoying. I'll spend my time elsewhere.
Truth is I post data instead of what my diddy taught me, etc. I take that as a compliment, thank you, you are unable to answer my posts.
Lucky... 0
QuoteI gotta think he is getting paid to post here and other sites.
This explains volumes. Paranoia transitioning into dellusion.
Lucky... 0
QuoteThe left sure jumped onto Nobel prize winning, Al Gore's data, as the end all, to the global warming hoax.QuoteFirstly, Kristof isn't data, he's a nobel peace prize winning liberal person with an opinion.
Show me what you're talking about that most of the reputable science community is against the notion of global warming. Then show me where they feel that burning of so-called fossil fuels isn't destroying the ecology.
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Truth is I post data instead of what my diddy taught me, etc. I take that as a compliment, thank you, you are unable to answer my posts.
Data like this?
To have the vile hatred toward poor people to want to deny them basic social svs under the guise of fairness requires the formation of mens rea, hence they cannot be autistic. If they were they would have an excuse for their depraved sense of humainity.
Take it as what you want, but don't confuse unwilling with unable.
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QuoteQuoteI gotta think he is getting paid to post here and other sites.
This explains volumes. Paranoia transitioning into dellusion.
Paranioa??
Where the hell did that come from
You just have so much time to miss-spell everything here you must not have a job
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Lucky... 0
QuoteI didn't ask for a definition. That's easy enough to find. What I asked was which was the better measure of compassion.
In law and in many other areas not related to the love of Jebus and other silly conservative processes, we define our terms to measure them. So the definition is:
a feeling of deep sympathy and sorrow for another who is stricken by misfortune, accompanied by a strong desire to alleviate the suffering.
So now we know what compassion is, let's measure it, as in quantify it in different situations.
YOURS: What a person gives of their own free will
MINE: I guess compassion doesn't measure where the money comes from, just where it goes. Compassion is the hope, the desire to help regardless of ability or origin, but just the destiny of the aid.
With yours the compassion is voluntary, sporadic, could be exclusive, and could be discriminatory. With mine it is guaranteed, constant, available, and universal.
QuoteYour words. If it doesn't matter where the money comes from, and you are willing to take it from others, and all that matters is the destination, then my example is exactly along the lines of your thought.
My words go as far as not mattering where the money comes from, the rest is yours. As for take it from others, once again your words, there is no correlation between taxation and outlays, so it isn't taken from others, you just use that as rationale to deny people, what your motive really is.
Your example is not as mine is, yours relies on donation, mine is gov mandated.
QuoteWhy does your compassion have geographic borders? Africa has much worse poverty.
It has to do with duty to your country and your fellow citizens versus the world. Once you get your affairs in order then you can help other nations. I just find a divide between nations when it comes to mandatory aid, I think it's great when global aid is voluntary. You would object to mandatory aid to foreign countries so I know you are being both hypothetical and abstract. Unless you subscribe to thievery of an entire different nation, but again, I don't think you subscribe to that so you are being hypothetical and abstract again.
Lucky... 0
QuoteI recognize the fact that it would cost hundreds, if not thousands, to process my little .60 worth of taxes, so, being the generous conservative, that I am, I simply redistributed it, as I saw fit.... The govt. owes me a commission, due to saving them all of that money, on bureaucratic processing.QuoteDo you declare as income and pay taxes on your 30% cut, or do you feel that it's okay for those with the capital to subscribe to the "gimme attitude?"
And if you don't feel like it then the poor families go without. That defines conservative compassion.
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