jimmytavino 16 #26 September 28, 2009 i always thought that it would make sense and be more fair......IF cable TV was Metered...just like electricity and/or natural gas service.... Use it sparingly, pay less.... Use it constantly,,, pay MORE.... around here, we have time warner cable... and it's a flat rate fee whether the TV is On for 2 hours a day or 20 hours.... I'd much rather have my bill kept LOW,,,, if I prove to be a sensible viewer... basically, NOTHING on TV , is worth ANYthing....anyway.... Why don't we pay??? according to amount used???. pretty much like most other consumable items... jmy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #27 September 28, 2009 Quotei always thought that it would make sense and be more fair......IF cable TV was Metered...just like electricity and/or natural gas service.... Use it sparingly, pay less.... Use it constantly,,, pay MORE.... around here, we have time warner cable... and it's a flat rate fee whether the TV is On for 2 hours a day or 20 hours.... I'd much rather have my bill kept LOW,,,, if I prove to be a sensible viewer... basically, NOTHING on TV , is worth ANYthing....anyway.... Why don't we pay??? according to amount used???. pretty much like most other consumable items... jmy The cost of the service has little to do with how much you use it. Gas and electricity are actual commodities you're consuming. Now if you want to talk about paying for the channels you actually do use, that's a different topic, and one that sat/cable have kept squashed, though with broadband widely available, we're finally in a position where we could directly subscribe to the channels we want. Netflix's set top box wasn't the first one (porn had one 6 years ago), but it's the first mainstream one. Next couple years, things will change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #28 September 28, 2009 QuoteI turn on my Tivo and TV to watch something for an hour.... then turn off the TV and forget about the Tivo... sometimes for weeks at a time. Looks like I'm watching for 24/7 when in fact it's a couple of hours a month. Others do this too. Skews the stats a bit. The other thing that may skew stats a bit - when i turn off the tv, i rarely turn off the cable box (i just forget) - so i'd imagine that if i was one of the households being surveyed my TV viewing would show up at 24 hrs a day! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #29 October 1, 2009 QuoteAre you sure? (Not w/r/t your viewing habits [obviusly you know those better than anyone Tongue] but the effect on the reported household viewing figures.) Well... yeah. I know I do it and I know other people do it... but yes you are correct in asserting that I don't know what percentage of the total do it. Do you? My Tivo reports back on what it records and not what I watch. When I don't tell my Tivo what to record it takes a guess about what I want to see.... Or it records and reports on what the highest bidder wants.... I dunno. Do you trust it?Owned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #30 October 1, 2009 Quote My Tivo reports back on what it records and not what I watch. The data may be incomplete or missing when you watch with the live buffer, but when it comes to playing back recordings, it records all sorts of data. Basically every key stroke. For the Superbowl, it collated which commercials were watched, rewound, fast forwarded past... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #31 October 1, 2009 Quote Quote But the real question is...what do you force them to watch? Other than staying off the dining room table and using their very fancy litterbox, I don't force them to do anything. They're cats. My mom got me one of those birds/fish/whatever videos for cats one year for Christmas. They had zero interest. When I travel, I do try to leave the local NPR station playing on a radio. /Marg You will someday come home to cats wearing Birkenstock sandals and complaining about how bad the bush administration depleted the mice supply. Cats are ingrates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
labrys 0 #32 October 2, 2009 QuoteThe data may be incomplete or missing when you watch with the live buffer, but when it comes to playing back recordings, it records all sorts of data. Basically every key stroke. For the Superbowl, it collated which commercials were watched, rewound, fast forwarded past... My point.... If my Tivo was turned on during the Superbowl and I wasn't touching it, then the assumption is that I was either watching every minute or I was gone the whole time. If they rely on my buffered playback info they have no idea if I'm fast forwarding because I don't want to see the commercials or if I've already seen them the first time... No logicOwned by Remi #? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #33 October 2, 2009 Quote My point.... If my Tivo was turned on during the Superbowl and I wasn't touching it, then the assumption is that I was either watching every minute or I was gone the whole time. If they rely on my buffered playback info they have no idea if I'm fast forwarding because I don't want to see the commercials or if I've already seen them the first time... They don't know why you're fast forwarding, just that you are. the data is a bit more obvious when viewers pause, rewind, and replay a section. When the data is aggregated, the patterns are much more obvious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
