rushmc 23 #1 September 25, 2009 QuoteOne song that the children were taught quotes directly from the spiritual "Jesus Loves the Little Children," though Jesus' name is replaced with Obama's: "He said red, yellow, black or white/All are equal in his sight. Barack Hussein Obama." Gotta love public education and early pre-school"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewhast 0 #2 September 25, 2009 http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/24/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5335819.shtml I think this is what you are referring to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #3 September 25, 2009 No racism in this country: www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5ee235cad14ce3da5ff99f682bc0921c&p=370410#post370410... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #4 September 25, 2009 Quote No racism in this country: www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5ee235cad14ce3da5ff99f682bc0921c&p=370410#post370410 So I take it you are ok with this? http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=9972437&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ I suppose you do this shit too? So, stop trying to re-direct the thread away from a perfect example of the extreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen loony left action and tell me if you think it is ok or not! I can only imagine your frothing at the mouth disgust had this been done for Bush. Well? answer or show hypocrisy. Your choice"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #5 September 25, 2009 Just as soon as you start posting criticisms of the fascist, racist loony right. Like that will ever happen.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #6 September 25, 2009 QuoteJust as soon as you start posting criticisms of the fascist, racist loony right. Like that will ever happen. You made you choice and have accepted your label"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #7 September 25, 2009 QuoteQuoteJust as soon as you start posting criticisms of the fascist, racist loony right. Like that will ever happen. You made you choice and have accepted your label So what did you think of the coverage of YOUR OP story on that clearly racist site?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #8 September 25, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteJust as soon as you start posting criticisms of the fascist, racist loony right. Like that will ever happen. You made you choice and have accepted your label So what did you think of the coverage of YOUR OP story on that clearly racist site? I did not look at it. Not the point of the post. But your hypocritical attitude toward the OP IS here for all to see. So, do YOU think a teacher, any teacher, doing this for any government official is proper?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 September 25, 2009 Quote No racism in this country: www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5ee235cad14ce3da5ff99f682bc0921c&p=370410#post370410 Ok, I went thereGo there often???YOU think this is related to the question of whether this shit shown here should be done in school? AND YOU ARE A TEACHER?????Oh pleaseStop it I cant take itplease"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #10 September 25, 2009 Hmm. This might be enough to turn even the staunchest conservative against prayer in schools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #11 September 26, 2009 Quote Quote No racism in this country: www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5ee235cad14ce3da5ff99f682bc0921c&p=370410#post370410 Ok, I went thereGo there often???YOU think this is related to the question of whether this shit shown here should be done in school? So you think that a blatantly racist site is a laugh. Not that it surprises me you'd think that way. I found it by pasting a line from YOUR OP into Google news to see how many sources were covering it. Which is why that site is relevant to your thread. Nice folks sharing your views about Obama.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #12 September 26, 2009 Quote Quote Quote No racism in this country: www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php?s=5ee235cad14ce3da5ff99f682bc0921c&p=370410#post370410 Ok, I went thereGo there often???YOU think this is related to the question of whether this shit shown here should be done in school? So you think that a blatantly racist site is a laugh. Not that it surprises me you'd think that way. I found it by pasting a line from YOUR OP into Google news to see how many sources were covering it. Which is why that site is relevant to your thread. Nice folks sharing your views about Obama. Well if it was about Obama you would be correct. But since it is not it isnt. You have yet to comment as whether you think this type of thing is ok in public school. Or are you afraid to hang your ass out far enough to give a straight answer and stop dragging the thread of topic. Oh, and you must be the racist. I had never seen that site before you posted the link."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 September 26, 2009 Hey everyone. We have yet another example (2 before this post) of someone using the racist tag to try and stop debate or deflect the topic. He insinuates (although a lie) that because of a site (like he found) I share views like those who frequent or read the site. A veiled PA of course, but a sad childish attempt by some one needing to belittle others to prop themselves up? Hmmmm My "views on Obama"????? Quite a stretch. But of course no can disagree with the anointed one chosen by those like him and so the attack. It is a despicable ugly racialist tactic used by some who considers anyone with whom they disagree to be some how less than them. This elitist attitude is fully visible here. They can not answer questions directly because what they really are has to be concealed. It is as disgusting as it is stupid. A very good example indeed."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #14 September 26, 2009 Quote Hey everyone. We have yet another example (2 before this post) of someone using the racist tag to try and stop debate or deflect the topic. . Your sharing the views of blatant white supremacists is a problem you have to deal with. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 September 26, 2009 Quote Quote Hey everyone. We have yet another example (2 before this post) of someone using the racist tag to try and stop debate or deflect the topic. . Your sharing the views of blatant white supremacists is a problem you have to deal with. Another avoiding of the topic and question. Tell oh self proclaimed smart one, to what views do you speak? You make here yet another claim (which I am sure you will avoid) that you cant back up but, it is the spin game which makes you happy. So, yet again, do you think it appropriate for a school to teach children songs that praise political public officials and, what "views" do I share with those on the site you posted sir? I thought what little of the site I saw was childish and sad, kind of like your poor attempts here."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #16 September 26, 2009 Quote Quote Hey everyone. We have yet another example (2 before this post) of someone using the racist tag to try and stop debate or deflect the topic. . Your sharing the views of blatant white supremacists is a problem you have to deal with. I also wonder sir, do you consider the views you elude to here better or worse or nearly the same as someone with bigoted elitists' views?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tkhayes 348 #17 September 26, 2009 so fire the teacher - but it is not some radical left movement sweeping the country to sing praises of Obama. Chimpout disturbs me far more than a bunch of kids singing stupid songs..... Is it really so bad that we have a President that people are happy enough with to write songs about? I mean he speaks in complete sentences, he has ideas, he is pretty fucking smart. Considering what we have put up with for 8 years, I might write a song too...... The best song that ever got written about GWB was from JibJab I think. And it wasn't praise...... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #18 September 26, 2009 Quoteso fire the teacher - but it is not some radical left movement sweeping the country to sing praises of Obama. Chimpout disturbs me far more than a bunch of kids singing stupid songs..... Is it really so bad that we have a President that people are happy enough with to write songs about? I mean he speaks in complete sentences, he has ideas, he is pretty fucking smart. Considering what we have put up with for 8 years, I might write a song too...... The best song that ever got written about GWB was from JibJab I think. And it wasn't praise...... Its not the song. It is the fact that a teacher does in a school. Same principal a year ago has an emergency drill. The scenario was based that the school was attacked by right wing radical Christians. They later apologized for their "insensitivity". They are they to teach, not indoctrinate. And if this had done with Bush as the subject the hell to pay would be huge. As for kallends website, he should be ashamed to even point that out and then claim because some site reports the same topic in that manner there are racists ties. Well, it that is his definition then hell yes, I am a racists, but it makes the definition so loose it is worthless so I don't give a fuck. And today, if a similar jib jab song was done about Obama , kallend and his ilk would be calling them racists. Damned sick, petty and disgusting. But not a surprise anymore"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #19 September 26, 2009 Quote yes, I am a racists If the shoe fits. Have you counted how many anti Obama threads you've started in the past month? Obsession?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 September 26, 2009 Quote Quote yes, I am a racists If the shoe fits. Have you counted how many anti Obama threads you've started in the past month? Obsession? How is this one anti Obama? It is about schools and public officials and whether it is appropriate or not to do this shit. It would be wrong if it was done for Bush only diff is you would think so then too Cant stand anybody opposing his policy. Yep, by your definition I am a racists. But you have so fucked the definition it is worthless so I care less. So, it what the teacher did ok with you? And, is a bigoted elitist worse better or the same as a racists? If any body knows the answer to either or both of these YOU shouldWanna go count how many anti Bush threads you started? Oh, but he is white and you opposed his policies. I see the difference. Hypocritical as it is"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #21 September 26, 2009 Quote Is it really so bad that we have a President that people are happy enough with to write songs about? No, that’s actually pretty cool imo. Folks musicians have been writing & adapting songs praising leaders and criticizing leaders for hundreds of years. Just not heard in heavy rotation on MTV or whatever cable station actually plays music videos these days. I haven’t looked at anything beyond what has been posted here in this thread & the others, so am speculating and inferring on a lot of the wider context. I can look at it from 2 different perspectives …. & there probably are more. First, strategically things like this just give those who are critical of the President over things he has little to no control the excuse to be more critical, including but not all-inclusively those who are just looking for another excuse or rationalization to engage in Blackwashing, the platform to do so. Second, imo, there _is_ some cult of personality to it. I don’t care who or what the person represents, I’m skeptical of cults of personality. There's a thin line between songs of praise and nationalist cults of personality ... sometimes where that line falls is different for different people. I love patriotic songs - a lot of them are pretty well written as folks songs, imo, e.g., the adaptation of Katherine Bates' poem about Pike's Peak into "America the Beautiful" and Irving Berlin's "God Bless America." Do the lyrics of the adaptation in question also suggest some evidence of a whole lot of underlying residual racism and class issue that some folks don’t want to acknowledge? (Yeah, prolly that too.) I’m still trying to figure out what is wrong with in some folks idea of “equal pay for equal work”? If two humans do the same job equally well, why should one get less or get more? Of course, the real world ain’t fair, so we still have racial pay disparities all of which favor whites. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites