Ion01 2 #26 September 25, 2009 Great News! I began discussion of the preventive detention center with the president of the United States and he is considering it! http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21obama.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #27 September 25, 2009 QuoteYes, good fun. Related to Rookies post, I think we should have a poll to see who is perceived as the most paranoid poster to dizzie.com. Probably against the rules about posting about posters though. The real problem is that all this opposition is really just astroturf put together by dropzone.com! The last time I saw these kinds of people dressed in jumpsuits was a year ago at a boogie. If we don't keep a close eye things could turn violent! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #28 September 25, 2009 QuoteGreat News! I began discussion of the preventive detention center with the president of the United States and he is considering it! http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21obama.html Quoteimagine that who would have thunk. p.s. you still need to work on that gage order for Bilvon spewing falsehoods Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #29 September 25, 2009 Funny - a bit of an eyechart - but funny I get to keep my own plan? Previously - I just payed for my own jumps, occasionally would go up with newbies on my own dime to help them out. but now my choices are..... 1 - Government plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can jump under the government plan about 200 jumps a year - but 180 of them are laying base for newbies vs 2 - Keep my plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can continue to also pay $22+/jump as much as I want but I have to lay base about 180 jumps no matter what vs - 3 - Decline the government plan - get fined about $40,000 a year extra and I do what I was doing initially. Change is GOOD - these are hard choices to choose from - they all have their advantages and disadvantages to consider. Is there a free counselor from the government to help me decide? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #30 September 25, 2009 I am open to debate! We need to discuss all sides of the issue in an open forum....but, but....I don't want the folks who created the mess doing a lot of talking..... I want them to just get out of the way .... I want you to argue with him and get in his face. I will hit back twice as hard! It is wholly inappropriate for DZO's to misslead skydivers on any subject. If this continues you will be removed from the public jumping system and any stimulus funds will be removed as well! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #31 September 25, 2009 QuoteFunny - a bit of an eyechart - but funny I get to keep my own plan? Previously - I just payed for my own jumps, occasionally would go up with newbies on my own dime to help them out. but now my choices are..... 1 - Government plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can jump under the government plan about 200 jumps a year - but 180 of them are laying base for newbies vs 2 - Keep my plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can continue to also pay $22+/jump as much as I want but I have to lay base about 180 jumps no matter what vs - 3 - Decline the government plan - get fined about $40,000 a year extra and I do what I was doing initially. Change is GOOD - these are hard choices to choose from - they all have their advantages and disadvantages to consider. Is there a free counselor from the government to help me decide? Yes, there will be no grounding panels either but there will be an "end of jumping" counceling offered. Also, if DZO do not following the government guidelines thier license will be taken. Also, DZO will be required to provide councellors for newbies and trainers of the newbies that can come to their homes and help them prepare for their training. Now if my mother wanted to jump but needed a reserve no reserve would be provided to her....but I would pay for one for her out of my own money. DZO's need to do what is best for the society not for the skydiver! I know some states already have a public jumping program and are rationing and even paying for some to jump without parachutes so they aren't a burdan anymore.....there will be no rationing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marks2065 0 #32 September 25, 2009 QuoteQuote forgot the beer tax , just like the soda tax Yes! beer and soda will be taxed as the high amount of calories can increase the weight of people and in order to reduce carbon emissions and reduce healthcare costs these items will be highly taxed in order to reduce their use. Fat people cause global warming. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2387203.ece http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/28/dining/28salt.html Quoteand they take up more room in the plane so less people on a load. also they cause more fuel burn for the same altitude(more green house emissions) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TankBuster 0 #33 September 25, 2009 Quotehmmm I don't know if you should be in charge. Do you have any other plans...? Maybe a stimulus plan to help me out?? Mmm, *...resisting temptation, resisting temptation...* Whew that was close. As for you Ion, Bravo. Brah Voh!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #34 September 25, 2009 Another cool thing is 4-way comps If Airspeed turns in a 32 on a jump, and my team turns in a 14, I now get a score of 24 and Airspeed takes a 22. And, Craig Gerard will have to pack for a Rookie team while getting counselling on how his excellence makes everyone else feel bad. Or does just everyone get a score of 10 and we all win medals? If forget how that works. or will they just prohibit all disciplines and we'll all have to do style and accuracy and jump papillons? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites pirana 0 #35 September 25, 2009 Quote Funny - a bit of an eyechart - but funny I get to keep my own plan? Previously - I just payed for my own jumps, occasionally would go up with newbies on my own dime to help them out. but now my choices are..... 1 - Government plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can jump under the government plan about 200 jumps a year - but 180 of them are laying base for newbies vs 2 - Keep my plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can continue to also pay $22+/jump as much as I want but I have to lay base about 180 jumps no matter what vs - 3 - Decline the government plan - get fined about $40,000 a year extra and I do what I was doing initially. Change is GOOD - these are hard choices to choose from - they all have their advantages and disadvantages to consider. Is there a free counselor from the government to help me decide? You forgot a 4th option. Move to another country. (Don't you just love it when you voice an opinion and the opposing side uses the "Love it or leave it" arguement?). (And again with the strange looking punctuation). Could work out though. Move to Venezuela. Convince that dictator guy to try out skydiving. If he likes it (I'm betting so since he is military, wacko, all scarred up, and lives in a "compound" - all traits leading me to believe he'll like it), convince him to make skydiving the national sport and you his Minister of Freefall. I'll come along and be Special Deputy in Charge of Student Operations; in which we put everybody on a sub 100 Velo on their second jump - thus ensuring we will always be the best skydivers around. We'll need muscle - so we solicit amongst the multitude of gun afficianados on this site for the guys and gals with the biggest guns (nudge nudge, know what I mean). Need to pick up a pilot too. Maybe that guy from Fandango? You interview the pilots and find some women with big guns, I'll radio ahead and see what their outcomes data shows and make sure we are not going in the wrong direction." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ion01 2 #36 September 25, 2009 Quote Another cool thing is 4-way comps If Airspeed turns in a 32 on a jump, and my team turns in a 14, I now get a score of 24 and Airspeed takes a 22. And, Craig Gerard will have to pack for a Rookie team while getting counselling on how his excellence makes everyone else feel bad. Or does just everyone get a score of 10 and we all win medals? If forget how that works. or will they just prohibit all disciplines and we'll all have to do style and accuracy and jump papillons? I have some plans for that as well but let me back up a bit. We have to start training early. In my 0-5 program we will begin education early. Children are our greatest resource so I am setting up an early education program for children 0-5 in which they will begin learning to skydive. They will learn packing, control in a wind tunnel, and manifest to prepare them for the world of skydiving! I will be providing quality affordable early childhood education to every child! As for scores I will not totally eliminate them as they are tools that we use to make sure our skydivers are learning. It just can’t dominate. I will provide funds to the dropzones that will implement a broader range of assessments that can evaluate higher-order skills. Also, the real downfall in the no skydiver left behind program is the loss of funds. I prefer to say "No Skydiver Left Behind left the money behind". Of course how all these funds are used will be regulated by me and will be required to be payed back with interest by the dropzone at some point but now we must focus on fixing the problems and jumpstarting the education programs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TankBuster 0 #37 September 25, 2009 QuoteChildren are our greatest resource so I am setting up an early education program for children 0-5 Dude! This is really catching on! There's video of a group of schoolkids in New Jersey being taught the "All Praise to Joshua M." song!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ion01 2 #38 September 25, 2009 My personal favorite is "Joshua loves the little children".....and remember, "red, yellow, black, or white, all are equal in my sight..." Also, I want to thank all those who have pledge to be a service to me as well as those who have pledged to free 1 million skydivers from dungeons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TankBuster 0 #39 September 25, 2009 Wow. You are so, like, COOL! Ya know, like I just feel this tingle running down my leg! Wait a minute, ... down Buddy! Down boy! Never mind. But you are, like, COOL!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites NickDG 23 #40 September 25, 2009 >>You are a numberist!! Numberist!!LMAO . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,098 #41 September 25, 2009 >better be carefull, you are goiing to get a gage order like humana did OK. I am afraid I have very few gages at the moment, though. But if they order some 14 gage I may be able to help em out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites brenthutch 444 #42 September 27, 2009 Well done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #43 September 27, 2009 Quote >better be carefull, you are goiing to get a gage order like humana did OK. I am afraid I have very few gages at the moment, though. But if they order some 14 gage I may be able to help em out. I thought he was speaking to a 12 or 10 gageNot much different that what the gov did to Humana"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ion01 2 #44 September 29, 2009 Okay! Everyone together now..... Get geared up! Jump out of a plane! Get geared up! Jump out of a plane! GET GEARED UP! JUMP OUT OF A PLANE! GET GEARED UP! JUMP OUT OF A PLANE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Ion01 2 #45 September 29, 2009 In order to gain more support I wanted to relay a sad story of how the current system is flawed. There was a man named Otto Raddatz who had sent in his AAD for it 8 year check. He was denied the check because he had not listed that the battery needed to be updated to, which he was unaware of. As a result he died! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
TankBuster 0 #33 September 25, 2009 Quotehmmm I don't know if you should be in charge. Do you have any other plans...? Maybe a stimulus plan to help me out?? Mmm, *...resisting temptation, resisting temptation...* Whew that was close. As for you Ion, Bravo. Brah Voh!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #34 September 25, 2009 Another cool thing is 4-way comps If Airspeed turns in a 32 on a jump, and my team turns in a 14, I now get a score of 24 and Airspeed takes a 22. And, Craig Gerard will have to pack for a Rookie team while getting counselling on how his excellence makes everyone else feel bad. Or does just everyone get a score of 10 and we all win medals? If forget how that works. or will they just prohibit all disciplines and we'll all have to do style and accuracy and jump papillons? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #35 September 25, 2009 Quote Funny - a bit of an eyechart - but funny I get to keep my own plan? Previously - I just payed for my own jumps, occasionally would go up with newbies on my own dime to help them out. but now my choices are..... 1 - Government plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can jump under the government plan about 200 jumps a year - but 180 of them are laying base for newbies vs 2 - Keep my plan - I get taxed about $20,000 a year extra and I can continue to also pay $22+/jump as much as I want but I have to lay base about 180 jumps no matter what vs - 3 - Decline the government plan - get fined about $40,000 a year extra and I do what I was doing initially. Change is GOOD - these are hard choices to choose from - they all have their advantages and disadvantages to consider. Is there a free counselor from the government to help me decide? You forgot a 4th option. Move to another country. (Don't you just love it when you voice an opinion and the opposing side uses the "Love it or leave it" arguement?). (And again with the strange looking punctuation). Could work out though. Move to Venezuela. Convince that dictator guy to try out skydiving. If he likes it (I'm betting so since he is military, wacko, all scarred up, and lives in a "compound" - all traits leading me to believe he'll like it), convince him to make skydiving the national sport and you his Minister of Freefall. I'll come along and be Special Deputy in Charge of Student Operations; in which we put everybody on a sub 100 Velo on their second jump - thus ensuring we will always be the best skydivers around. We'll need muscle - so we solicit amongst the multitude of gun afficianados on this site for the guys and gals with the biggest guns (nudge nudge, know what I mean). Need to pick up a pilot too. Maybe that guy from Fandango? You interview the pilots and find some women with big guns, I'll radio ahead and see what their outcomes data shows and make sure we are not going in the wrong direction." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #36 September 25, 2009 Quote Another cool thing is 4-way comps If Airspeed turns in a 32 on a jump, and my team turns in a 14, I now get a score of 24 and Airspeed takes a 22. And, Craig Gerard will have to pack for a Rookie team while getting counselling on how his excellence makes everyone else feel bad. Or does just everyone get a score of 10 and we all win medals? If forget how that works. or will they just prohibit all disciplines and we'll all have to do style and accuracy and jump papillons? I have some plans for that as well but let me back up a bit. We have to start training early. In my 0-5 program we will begin education early. Children are our greatest resource so I am setting up an early education program for children 0-5 in which they will begin learning to skydive. They will learn packing, control in a wind tunnel, and manifest to prepare them for the world of skydiving! I will be providing quality affordable early childhood education to every child! As for scores I will not totally eliminate them as they are tools that we use to make sure our skydivers are learning. It just can’t dominate. I will provide funds to the dropzones that will implement a broader range of assessments that can evaluate higher-order skills. Also, the real downfall in the no skydiver left behind program is the loss of funds. I prefer to say "No Skydiver Left Behind left the money behind". Of course how all these funds are used will be regulated by me and will be required to be payed back with interest by the dropzone at some point but now we must focus on fixing the problems and jumpstarting the education programs! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #37 September 25, 2009 QuoteChildren are our greatest resource so I am setting up an early education program for children 0-5 Dude! This is really catching on! There's video of a group of schoolkids in New Jersey being taught the "All Praise to Joshua M." song!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #38 September 25, 2009 My personal favorite is "Joshua loves the little children".....and remember, "red, yellow, black, or white, all are equal in my sight..." Also, I want to thank all those who have pledge to be a service to me as well as those who have pledged to free 1 million skydivers from dungeons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TankBuster 0 #39 September 25, 2009 Wow. You are so, like, COOL! Ya know, like I just feel this tingle running down my leg! Wait a minute, ... down Buddy! Down boy! Never mind. But you are, like, COOL!The forecast is mostly sunny with occasional beer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickDG 23 #40 September 25, 2009 >>You are a numberist!! Numberist!!LMAO . . . NickD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,098 #41 September 25, 2009 >better be carefull, you are goiing to get a gage order like humana did OK. I am afraid I have very few gages at the moment, though. But if they order some 14 gage I may be able to help em out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
brenthutch 444 #42 September 27, 2009 Well done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #43 September 27, 2009 Quote >better be carefull, you are goiing to get a gage order like humana did OK. I am afraid I have very few gages at the moment, though. But if they order some 14 gage I may be able to help em out. I thought he was speaking to a 12 or 10 gageNot much different that what the gov did to Humana"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #44 September 29, 2009 Okay! Everyone together now..... Get geared up! Jump out of a plane! Get geared up! Jump out of a plane! GET GEARED UP! JUMP OUT OF A PLANE! GET GEARED UP! JUMP OUT OF A PLANE! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ion01 2 #45 September 29, 2009 In order to gain more support I wanted to relay a sad story of how the current system is flawed. There was a man named Otto Raddatz who had sent in his AAD for it 8 year check. He was denied the check because he had not listed that the battery needed to be updated to, which he was unaware of. As a result he died! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
