Bill O'Reilly supports public option for healthcare

[SpeedRacer 1]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/17/bill-oreilly-backs-public_n_290658.html Watch the video on the link.

Speed Racer
--------------------------------------------------

[lawrocket 3]

And if the concervative populace are the mindless drones the left thinks they are, then there will be a massive upswell in support for the public option among the people.

What are the predictions from the Lefties?

This is awesome! I reckon the mindless drones taking commands will mutiny, for they have a mind of their own. And the self-righteous, pretentious left will be left to say, "O'Reilly is a has been. It was, un, Beck! That's the ticket! He has lured them into his conspiracy! O'Reilly is a toadie!

Much like the left does not take its marching orders from Olberman, the right does not take theirs from O'Reilly or any of the other right-wing media scapegoats.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[Lucky... 0]

Quote

And if the concervative populace are the mindless drones the left thinks they are, then there will be a massive upswell in support for the public option among the people.

What are the predictions from the Lefties?

This is awesome! I reckon the mindless drones taking commands will mutiny, for they have a mind of their own. And the self-righteous, pretentious left will be left to say, "O'Reilly is a has been. It was, un, Beck! That's the ticket! He has lured them into his conspiracy! O'Reilly is a toadie!

Much like the left does not take its marching orders from Olberman, the right does not take theirs from O'Reilly or any of the other right-wing media scapegoats.

I know you dislike the Republican Party, even tho it appears your ideals are 90% inline with theirs, you love the Libertarian Party, but they will never win and we know that. I'm thinking you could revitalize the Whig Party, it seems as tho you are a good fit and maybe, just maybe you could drag other non-mindless, non-drones from the repubs and Libertarians to support you.

We could progress backwards, as contemporary conservatives do and just call it progressive. LMK, I'll sign up.

[lawrocket 3]

Quote

I know you dislike the Republican Party, even tho it appears your ideals are 90% inline with theirs,

With their image. They are wolves in sheeps' clothing.

[Reply] you love the Libertarian Party, but they will never win and we know that.

[jgoose71 0]

What a joke. You would have to watch the whole interview. Bill O, like me, doesn't care where the health insurance comes from as long as it is a quality program that doesn't destroy the American heath care system.

What you missed before hand was him talking about public and private sectors competing on an even ground using competition to hold prices in check. If anyone has any Ideas on how this can be done, run for congress.

"There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss."
Life, the Universe, and Everything

[billvon 3,176]

> the right does not take theirs from O'Reilly . . .

True. It's been moving more towards Limbaugh, Coulter and (more lately) Beck, Sarah Palin and Joe the Plumber.

[Lucky... 0]

Quote

With their image. They are wolves in sheeps' clothing.

I get the wolves part, just nott he sheep's clothing; what do they 'wear' to make them looking innocent and pure?....or even moderately ok.

Quote

When I vote my conscience I shall always emerge unscathed.

Nothing wrong with that, just making a likely prognostication.

Quote

I wear no toupee.

No, but, I'm no Whig expert, but they were osted by the then great Republican Party, now the Repubs have become them.

Quote

I am a king maker. Not a king. Tom Aiello? I'd stand behind him.

Tom seems like a dignified individual, I just stand behind people who can support their positions with some kind of relevant data, history, etc.

Quote

I think they call it "populism.".

Call what populism? Backwards progress? I call it regression, I thought I made that inference; the conservatievs are great it whether they wear a Republican hat, Libertarian hat or whatever.

Quote

Not all progress is wonderful. Plenty of progress can be a step behind, for many people. For example, the Luddites. A man may find it nice to wake up in the morning, but if he is to be executed at midnight, maybe not. They all have costs and benefitd.

Let's not be abstract, how about social progress, integration, equality, education, etc. I don't think we need to ponder progress, it's kinda like the SCOTUS take on porn; you know when you see it, no dissection neccessary. You would say ensuring healthcare for all Americans is regressive because people might become less self-reliant. But when you don't have a chance to got to the doctor and your ill/injured, you're not self-reliant anyway. So this Darwinian approach to pulling yourself up by the proverbial bootstraps is just a guise for creating a hardsher, elitist, classist society.

Quote

Since "progressive" means "class warfare" (getting rid of the wealthy so that the poor feel good) I'm sure that there were more people in the Soviet Union who were glad about the mass murders.

Jesus, is that from the Repub/Libertarian dictionary? Progressive means: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/progressive

pro⋅gres⋅sive  /prəˈgrɛsɪv/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [pruh-gres-iv] Show IPA
Use progressive in a Sentence
See web results for progressive
See images of progressive
–adjective 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
4. (initial capital letter) of or pertaining to any of the Progressive parties in politics.
5. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.
6. noting or pertaining to a form of taxation in which the rate increases with certain increases in taxable income.
7. of or pertaining to progressive education: progressive schools.
8. Grammar. noting a verb aspect or other verb category that indicates action or state going on at a temporal point of reference.
9. Medicine/Medical. continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease.

–noun 10. a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform, esp. in political matters.
11. (initial capital letter) a member of a Progressive party.
12. Grammar. a. the progressive aspect.
b. a verb form or construction in the progressive, as are thinking in They are thinking about it



So that is your interpretation of progressive. Perhaps you could say that violence can sometimes be the means to progress, but it alos can be the process in which a government ceases progess, such as Tieneman Square. Progression, regression, and tradition are just movements fwd, backward or nowhere, violence is just one method to further it, there are many peaceful ways, such as election, peaceful protest, boycott, etc.

Quote

In my opinion, progress in american freedom ended when women were given the right to vote.

So what do you call the 1950's racial movement; a hijacking? Do we need to establish that blacks were oppressed? Black/white bathrooms and water fountains as starters. I'll be interested to see what you think of that movement.

Quote

You simply agree with a new form of slavery. Had Kunta Kinte been thinking of the rest of the Southern economy he'd have understood that he was working for something so much bigger than him. He had food, health care. He had it good, right?

What does that mean???? Does tha mean slavery, which was obviously long outlawed by 1920, was a good thing because his slave owners maintained his health, hence had it good? Please expound.