futuredivot 0 #51 September 19, 2009 Quote i find this comment racist... You haven't "found" anything that wasn't posted to an oddball far left website firstYou are only as strong as the prey you devour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #52 September 19, 2009 Quote Michelle's college thesis is racist Which part of Michelle Obama's (nee Robinson) thesis? Because I don’t so ‘set-up’ posts, here’s an earlier discussion with direct quotes on the thesis question and the conclusions, that seems to suggest that what the future first lady wrote actually was closer in line with values more traditionally associated with conservatives, & that’s not an indirect slam, than with values or actions traditionally with black activists. As always, don’t believe me; please see the full text linked there. Another prominent black woman wrote her undergrad thesis (at University of Denver) on Stalinist musician-composers, what does that say about her views on communism? Does that mean that she is a communist supporter? /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #53 September 19, 2009 QuoteAnother prominent black woman wrote her undergrad thesis (at University of Denver) on Stalinist musician-composers, what does that say about her views on communism? Does that mean that she is a communist supporter? Ah, but more to the point- before they were married, Obama's parents took a Russian course. And even today, Sasha and Malia have been seen wearing - you guessed it - pink! The Communist connections are so clear, even a cave man can see it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #54 September 19, 2009 QuoteQuoteIf your racism-accusation radar is heightened (for the same reasons), then you're going to be hyper-sensitive to accusations of racism. The reason is often that you've repeatedly been accused of racism. Is one reason then that some might have “heightened “racism-radar” is because they have been and are subjected to real racism? Some folks don’t seem to be able to acknowledge that racism still exists. Sometimes accusations are correct. And sometimes they’re not. While no longer legally permissible (almost completely) and much, much, much less prominent than even 25 years ago, negative discrimination against minorities persists. To pretend otherwise is akin pretending skydiving can’t kill you. It’s not about looking for it, either. Less anecdotally: Measuring Racial Discrimination The Color of Credit: Mortgage Discrimination, Research Methodology, and Fair-lending Enforcement Trait-based and sex-based discrimination in occupational prestige, occupational salary, and hiring Pervasive Prejudice?: Unconventional Evidence of Race and Gender Discrimination Department of Defense Annual Report on Sexual Harassment and Violence at the U.S. Military Service Academies: Academic Program Year 2006-2007 Racial harassment, job satisfaction and intentions to remain in the military … (that data, published on 2008, reports that “two thirds of [minority] active-duty military personnel report experiencing offensive racial behaviors in the previous 12 months, whereas approximately one in ten reports threatening racial incidents or career-related discrimination. Furthermore, threatening racial incidents and career-related discrimination heighten intentions to leave the military.” Forget a justice or "fairness" argument, from a fiscal perspective losing one highly trained soldier, sailor, airman, or Marine because of racism is expensive! Stubbornly refusing to admit/acknowledge residual racism & sexism persist is like Pres Clinton and the definition of “is” … and that’s not specifically directed at you Tom … but general comment on some of what I observe, which I own as my observations. One can’t pretend negative discrimination against minorities and women doesn’t exist with any more credibly than he could pretend fellatio wasn’t sex. Of course, ya both (him and a general “you”) may try. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #55 September 19, 2009 Over the last few days I’ve benefited from a variant of reverse-bias (i.e., positive bias because I was associated with a minority group) of an unexpected variety. Turns out that my last name is Cambodian. Every time someone saw my passport or I was introduced, it was commented on. Even met my ‘long-lost’ Cambodian brother at a UXO and landmine-removal NGO. It seemed to be a launching point for conversation and got me a lot of smiles. I’m not Cambodian - pretty much generic white girl of European mutt ancestry. My paternal grandfather’s ancestors came from western Poland/eastern Germany (the area along the border where which country it was depended. The patronomic name was prolly shortened. I’m American. But now, when someone asks me “What is it [my last name]?” Depending on how patient or frivolous I’m feeling, I might answer, “it’s Cambodian.” /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #56 September 19, 2009 Quote Another prominent black woman wrote her undergrad thesis (at University of Denver) on Stalinist musician-composers, what does that say about her views on communism? Does that mean that she is a communist supporter? Well she CAN speak Russian. www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybytch 273 #57 September 19, 2009 For the same reasons that liberals are so frequently accused of being "socialists." Partly to change the subject, partly to play on our emotions by using words that have particularly charged meanings in our current culture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #58 September 19, 2009 Quote And even today, Sasha and Malia have been seen wearing - you guessed it - pink! The Communist connections are so clear, even a cave man can see it. [tongue in cheek] Hmmm ... and I've worn pink-n-white polka dotted galoshes in and out of the Pentagon. What does that make me? (Other than perhaps questionable fashion taste? ) [/removing tongue from cheek] /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #59 September 19, 2009 A ways back, poor people of ethnic description were not getting home loans. The banks blamed it on basic banking processes. You have to have the possibility of paying a loan back before a bank will be interested in loaning the money. Others portrayed it as racist. Liberal supporters then proposed the use of govt guaranteed housing loans. Later, the loans weren't payed back. Banks had, at the request of the govt, intentionally made loans to people without the ability to pay them back. It was recently described as a racist plot to steal the money of poor ethnic people. I don't believe that the conservatives, or bankers, ever thought this was a good idea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #60 September 20, 2009 QuoteIt was recently described as a racist plot to steal the money of poor ethnic people. If someone is poor, how can I steal money from them?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #61 September 20, 2009 Quote Quote keep black people in check by reminding them their government owes them a living. i find this comment racist... you must be a conservative I'm left with the feeling that for some people a comment like "I'm going to the grocery store" would be considered racist. The only thing that would make it not racist is if I told my black friend I would pick him up a 40The more I think about it the more true my above statement becomes on so many different levels."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #62 September 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteIt was recently described as a racist plot to steal the money of poor ethnic people. If someone is poor, how can I steal money from them? Either you cannot answer your own question, and should not be allowed to vote. Or, you are wasting my time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #63 September 20, 2009 Quote Either you cannot answer your own question, and should not be allowed to vote. WOW! Now you want to control if I can vote or not! Man your on a roll. Keep going. What else inmy life do you want to control?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #64 September 20, 2009 The answer is simple. Conservatives who question or speak out against BHO are accused of racism because BHO is black. That's been the only thing liberals could come up with, but now they must include all the grassroot people that speak out. The question now needs to be turned around:"Why are grassroot people so frequently accused of racism. Why are the butchers, bakers, and candlestick makers racists"?Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #65 September 20, 2009 Racism goes viral: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/07/obama_racism.html#photo=1 Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #66 September 20, 2009 Dan AmiraYou should no betterhttp://nymag.com/author/dan%20amira "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #67 September 21, 2009 QuoteQuotemine limited to those who reinforce my position truth be damned Just thought I'd inject a little accuracy Oh, and to answer your user name, I think it was koolaid. Yes, it did reinforce my position. That's what most postings in a forum are for. There are plenty of other examples I could provide to further reinforce my position (and there are plenty of posts that you could provide to bolster your position) but I thought I'd try to stick to the OP's question. And yes, there are "koolaid" drinkers out there however I'd argue that they are the one's carrying the "Beck for President" signs. Also, since you bring it up, my user name is based off of one of the lesser known quotes of Socrates. (Note to self: Doubtful that "Palin 2012" voters will get that joke) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #68 September 21, 2009 Quote If someone is poor, how can I steal money from them? Give them a payday loan^n Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
