0
wmw999

Illegal immigration & how to resolve

Recommended Posts

Quote

The Puerto Ricans I know would rather have full statehood.

They are proud and decent people and understand that the value of being an American is quite desirable.

Quote


Well you know ,warpedskydiver, if they just all signed up to join the army they'ld have immediate citizenship and could frolick around Iraq drivin' hummers and doin' drive-bys all day and I know those Ricans love that kinda stuff better than Lucy and Ricky re-runs . I'm suprised more of them haven't signed up!

Blues,
Cliff

2muchTruth

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

The Puerto Ricans I know would rather have full statehood.

They are proud and decent people and understand that the value of being an American is quite desirable.

Not have to defend themselves from the local Banana Republics and their Dictators is nice as well.

They get a good amount of their trade from dealing with CONUS and that does not even count the tourism.

I believe what you say. However, I feel it is unfair for my tax dollars to provide such a large number of them with food stamps. I feel they are a burden to the United States, and it's time to give them their independence......PUERTO RICANS DISPUTE CASH FOOD-STAMP PLAN
E-MAIL
Permissions
By REGINALD STUART, SPECIAL TO THE NEW YORK TIMES (The New York Times); National Desk
July 23, 1983, Saturday

Puerto Rico's program of issuing money rather than stamps to people eligible to receive food stamps has stirred controversy on the island, where more than 50 percent of the 3.1 million inhabitants qualify for the program. Commonwealth officials say the switch, which began a year ago this month, has ...
Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If it would be like $36 jump ticket to 10.000 ft in 38 minutes - you wouldn't have any illegal skydiver.
Nobody seems to be crowdin' my dropzones [:/]

"Questo a solo business", nothing personnel, btw did I miss the topic?

What goes around, comes later.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

If you expect to enter most countries for more than 30 days you will need a work permit/job or to demonstrate financial status that you will not become a burden of the State.

That's true of the US also, except that lots of people don't enter at proper border crossings.

There are other countries with illegal immigration problems, but ours is so big in part because we're so big. China and Russia also have massive borders, but not nearly as many people clamoring to get in.

There is absolutely nothing that will solve the illegal immigration problem entirely. East Germany tried to solve the illegal emigration problem with the guarded wall, and there were still people who got out.

The idea is to get ideas that will change the nature of how people do business, in fairly small ways. I like Bill's answer, because it does that. But getting contractors to withold is huge -- right now, lots of them LIKE not having to deal with taxes. They wouldn't do what they do if they had to deal with others' taxes.

Stuff that makes home more attractive than the US is the best. We can make the US as unattractive as possible, but that has the downside of making it unattractive to people who are here legally, also.

Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote


I am proposing a new law that requires any employer who has employees, even if they are considered "crews", deduct those taxes. If they're contractors and they have crews they have to withhold.



What if an employee has contractors, and not employees? Typically contractors receive fee for service, which also covers their expenses, and for some contractors (like HVAC) their income might well be in 20-30% range of the total fee charged. Charging them maximum tax rate from the service fee would leave them with no income.
* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote


If they are incorporated as contractors, and have a business license to prove it, then no problem.



Well, as far as I know there is no law requiring incorporation of contractors, nor it makes sense for everyone. This is also not cheap (approx. $1200 yearly in state and accounting costs in California).

Business license would only work for the contractors who are to be licensed - but how would you license a software developer, crop picker or skydiving videographer? And it's pretty vague measurement - one could be licensed, and still be an employee.

If you're talking about "business permits" which is issued by a lot of cities in California - they typically issue it to everyone who pays $150/year. They do not check anything, it's just another source of revenue for the city. Also useless.

Quote


If they are guys the contractor found at Home Depot, then they get maximum withholding.



What about for example gardeners. As far as I know, they are mostly treated as independent contractors, and their cost of doing business may be quite high, considering cost of equipment. They're rarely incorporated, and not licensed by the state/county. When you hire them, should you withold tax if they do not provide you SSN?
* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. *

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
>This is also not cheap (approx. $1200 yearly in state and
>accounting costs in California).

$50 for a business license in Santee, CA. I had to show ID and a proof of residence.

> but how would you license a software developer, crop picker or
>skydiving videographer?

I'm a skydiving instructor/videographer and I have a business license.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Quote

Quote

If you expect to enter most countries for more than 30 days you will need a work permit/job or to demonstrate financial status that you will not become a burden of the State.

That's true of the US also, except that lots of people don't enter at proper border crossings.

There are other countries with illegal immigration problems, but ours is so big in part because we're so big. China and Russia also have massive borders, but not nearly as many people clamoring to get in.

There is absolutely nothing that will solve the illegal immigration problem entirely. East Germany tried to solve the illegal emigration problem with the guarded wall, and there were still people who got out.

The idea is to get ideas that will change the nature of how people do business, in fairly small ways. I like Bill's answer, because it does that. But getting contractors to withold is huge -- right now, lots of them LIKE not having to deal with taxes. They wouldn't do what they do if they had to deal with others' taxes.

Stuff that makes home more attractive than the US is the best. We can make the US as unattractive as possible, but that has the downside of making it unattractive to people who are here legally, also.

Wendy P.

The part about East Germany solving the emigration problem: yes, they were trying to emigrate (LEAVE). You know, they were trying a leave a system which some of our skydiving friends think we need. Maybe when our own wall goes up, people will then try to leave. I would venture to say that East Germany (a cold war Russian satellite) had a very tight border compared to ours. Maybe that's what we need; only facing the opposite direction. All it would take is an executive order from the emperor, but he's a little busy trying to figure out how to give free healthcare to 20 million illegal aliens. Think ACORN can help?
Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
The face of the illegal alien from south of our border has changed. The flow of and demand for illegal drugs in this country is bringing those who intend to get into gangs and make their fortune in the drug trade. There is not one single state in these United States that does not have a Latin gang and those gangs are growing...rapidly. The majority of illegals are younger and are not looking to pick peaches.


Chuck

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

0