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QuoteYou are the only one that seems in favor of the Soldier being shot for drinking water.
I agree with you on alot of things, but I don't recall him saying that.
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I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself.
The purpose of this website is to discuss opinions. Isn't your request akin to yelling at people for drinking at a bar?
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Otherwise you could become quite a curiosity near a military installation or a DZ with a large contingency of Veterans.
That's just taking it a little too far.
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So if it is lent and a Muslim wanted to eat meat would you think he would deserve the same?
Unless I'm mistaken, he never said that.
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You make me sick.
Then you're much too easily offended.
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Furthermore hiding behind your keyboard and spouting your type of morality must give you quite a bit of self satisfaction, knowing you don't have to face those who might be a little annoyed with your shit.
How is what you're doing any different?
nanook 1
QuoteOtherwise you could become quite a curiosity near a military installation or a DZ with a large contingency of Veterans.
I don't know. I would probably buy him a beer. I don't think he's suggesting anything but his take on this opinion.
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I said "seems"
If we take the entirety of all the posts he made in the past and his lack of understanding that the Afghani committed a heinous crime against a US soldier who would have protected him, we can draw the conclusion that he was actually thinking the US soldier had it coming or at least some other punishment.
I do not think any of you has to be in lock step with me on this, but if I had witnessed anyone pulling a firearm and starting to point it at any coalition personnel, there would be an Afghani funeral in someones future.
Rhys complains about nearly anything our country or troops do and I am tired of his crap.
If we take the entirety of all the posts he made in the past and his lack of understanding that the Afghani committed a heinous crime against a US soldier who would have protected him, we can draw the conclusion that he was actually thinking the US soldier had it coming or at least some other punishment.
I do not think any of you has to be in lock step with me on this, but if I had witnessed anyone pulling a firearm and starting to point it at any coalition personnel, there would be an Afghani funeral in someones future.
Rhys complains about nearly anything our country or troops do and I am tired of his crap.
I have no problems saying anything I wish to someones face, ask anyone who knows me and they will affirm that.
People know who I am, where I am, and that I won't take anyone's crap.
Speak your mind and that is fine, cross the line and cheer or support the death of one of us and I may not be so friendly.
People know who I am, where I am, and that I won't take anyone's crap.
Speak your mind and that is fine, cross the line and cheer or support the death of one of us and I may not be so friendly.
QuoteQuoteI suspect there is much we'll never know about this event. But I think it's safe to say that the cop should have exercised more control.
I am not taking sides on this one, the cops response was excessive, but the soldiers should have shown more respect.
Bullshit!
i'm sure he was well aware that it was ramadan, this is a sacred time for islamics and if someone came through you church service cahnting 'allah is great' you would probably be pissed off too.QuoteAlso a stupid statement because Allah is God, try understanding something before you type it.
To be disrespecting in an country you are supposed to be working with is pretty darn stupid, not repecting ramadan in afghanistan is stupid, so the soldier was stupid.
He deserved to be punished but being shot is a bit excessive.
If you were to offend a local custom in the USA would you deserve punishment as well?
riddler 0
QuoteI suggest you keep your opinion to yourself.
I've often thought it would be nice to have, on these forums, a personal filter that didn't show posts made by certain users. This is an example of how that would come in handy.
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
riddler 0
QuoteDont mean to get off topic, but just because plans were there doesnt mean shit. The US has plans for a lot of things. It just means we are prepared
I want to state that I do not believe that the Afghanistan war was premeditated. The poster referred to a 'premeditated war', and I asked for clarification, because a lot of people believe the Iraq war was premeditated, and fewer believe that the Afghanistan war was premeditated.
I think it's good to plan for these things as well.
Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD
mnealtx 0
Quotei'm sure he was well aware that it was ramadan, this is a sacred time for islamics and if someone came through you church service cahnting 'allah is great' you would probably be pissed off too.
Try a little less hyperbole. It's a religious observance, not a month-long "church service". Should Catholics run around shooting people that eat meat on Fridays?
Mike
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mnealtx 0
QuoteYou might as well walk around with a sign that says "If you are going to shoot someone, shoot an American. We deserve it."
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I thought Obama did the "Blame America World Tour" so that we didn't have to do stuff like that.
Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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n23x 0
QuoteI suggest you keep your opinion to yourself.
Otherwise you could become quite a curiosity near a military installation or a DZ with a large contingency of Veterans.
You are so fucking ridiculous, it is retarded. You literally have nothing to contribute, and all you can do is attempt to stifle others with threats.
I said it before, and I'll say it again: I have seen multiple vets harass someone for fasting, even after they were reprimanded. Does that mean that most/all vets act that way? Certainly not. It does, however, mean that some act that way. Nobody deserved to be shot, but to assume that the soldier did nothing to provoke the incident is foolish at best.
.jim
"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC
rhys 0
QuoteYou are the only one that seems in favor of the Soldier being shot for drinking water.
the problem with people like you is that you read what you want to read, see what ou want to see, and do not have a clue, nor care what other people might think, do or respect.
If you read without bias you will see that, I do not think he should have been shot, but i do think he should have shown respect for the culture he was present with.
If it is illegal to eat or drink during daylight hours , he should have known, abstained or simply went to a discreet place to take his drink.
The problem with 'rag head hating' neo con 'mericans. is they think the sun shines out of thier asshole and evrything and anyone else is shit.
lf an officer of the law tells me to pull over in the usa and I don't, what happens? if he tells me to put my hand on the hood and i don't, what happens?
is excessive force only alloewd for american culture and what is considered right here? or is eah individual culture allowed to have thier own set of standards??
Remember , the US military is not occupying (for a change) Afghanistan, they are working together.
I don't think the soldier should have been shot, and I don't beliveve the islamic faith.
I simply believe that you should treat others as you want them to treat you, and this debarcle does not help the cause that you country is investing so much time money and energy into.
Get a grip, violence does not fix everything.
I had a similar threat from you for having the gumtion to state that rape is a problem in the US military, this is a private message from you;
QuoteYou have no first hand knowledge of serving or what actually happens, I have seen it from both sides.
I think you just might be full of shit.
Dreamworld huh?
I guess I was dreaming that I served all those years.
You have no fucking clue and you just proved it to me.
When you get a clue, I suggest you just shut the fuck up.
Any NCO worth a shit would stomp you to death for suggesting that we condone any of the shit you claim.
In the field we have the right and responsibility to arrest the perps, if they do not surrender we shoot them.
Get a clue you useless piece of fucking human garbage.
Motherfuckers like you are responsible for dispensing lies about how unprofessional the military is.
I challenge you to tell me, Scott Campos, John Hawke, or any serving NCO this crap and see if you don't get the stomping of your life.
If you ever contact me again without furnishing facts regarding these inflammatory claims I will see to it the military seeks you out and brings you to court.
You are very close to violating several laws.
Say it in an open forum, if it is not true your ass is going to be in a sling.
Now put up the facts or shut the fuck up.
If you ever speak one more fucking word of this without proof I am going to contact every Soldier on DZ.com and tell them all about your crap.
So it seems you like violence, ALOT. Do you still deny that rape is a probelem in the US Military or have you still got your eyes closed. I sent you a bunch of links to many accounts of this behavior that is published here on the internet, you probably didn't even look?
My friend who has been subject to sexual violence herself along with her mother who is also military has been raped more than once while serving, is currently in afghanistan.
I do have first hand knowlwdge and it surprises me the if you are so connected with the military that you deny that this sort of behavior ever exists?
You have a very serious anger problem and people like you should not be in the position of making the decisions that a soldier or any higher rank should be making. you are supposed to be making peace not war, so get a grip, respect others, like you want them to respect you and quit the violent and excessive threats.
The only one dragging the US military name through the mud is you.
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
wmw999 2,588
If you think a threat in a PM is serious enough, you should approach either dz.com or the authorities.
Posting PMs is a reasonably serious breach of etiquette. If dz.com or the authorities were to blow you off, then it'd be more reasonable.
And the reason etiquette matters is because it's common language of "lowest common denominator." Do we really, really want to lower the bar further down than it already is? 
Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
rhys 0
QuotePosting PMs is a reasonably serious breach of etiquette. If dz.com or the authorities were to blow you off, then it'd be more reasonable.
Is it? i just read the rules and there is no mention of posting P.M's.
People should not write things they do not want posted.
QuoteAnd the reason etiquette matters is because it's common language of "lowest common denominator." Do we really, really want to lower the bar further down than it already is?
No, we want to expose the real truth behind what happens, not a neo con, 'merican bullshut version.
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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
wmw999 2,588
Etiquette, not rules.
It's also not against the rules to belch out loud at the table with your boss, but it's generally frowned on.
Wendy P.
It's also not against the rules to belch out loud at the table with your boss, but it's generally frowned on.
Wendy P.
There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown)
billvon 3,116
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Warped, N23, Rhys - cut it out. Your one warning.
rhys 0
QuoteWarped, N23, Rhys - cut it out. Your one warning.
explain?
"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix
billvon 3,116
>explain?
"You have a very serious anger problem and people like you should not be in the position of making the decisions that a soldier or any higher rank should be making."
"You have a very serious anger problem and people like you should not be in the position of making the decisions that a soldier or any higher rank should be making."
QuoteNobody deserved to be shot, but to assume that the soldier did nothing to provoke the incident is foolish at best.
Jim, why is it foolish to be believe the soldier did nothing to provoke this?
Yeah, there have been U.S. Soldiers do things towards our police/military counterparts that are not exactly PC and are not good examples of friendly diplomacy. But such instances are too far to make any statements like the one quoted above.
I've heard of worse; sueing women cause they "made you rape them", selling off daughters, raping your 12 y-o wife, imprisoning women for "tempting" men to rape them, etc.... Do a google search and I'm sure you'll find more than you care to read. These are by all means not isolated incidents like they would be in the west, these are everyday occurances.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/04/afghanistan.womens.rights/index.html
I suppose men in Afhganistan are provoked to rape their wives when they won't "give it up".
And before you say it, yes I already know that the west has our share of wierdos, but they are few and far compared to countries that practice Sharia Law where this sort of behavior is often excusable and forgiven.
So by your logic, we should assume that every Mulsim man is a pedophile rapist. I mean, you are generalizing an entire group based off the actions of a few, no?
I'm not saying that the shooter will not get in to any trouble, he probably will, especially since it involved a U.S. Troop.
Which is more likely? The Soldier provoked the cop in a matter other than drinking water? Or the cop felt offended by the solider drinking water?
Either way, Does it really matter? If the soldier done a damn rain dance, head dress and all, it still would not have made a difference. The only thing he would have been guilty of is having low-class, and hopefully his superiors would have seen and done something about it.
I'm not posting all this to bring any bad light to muslims, just to say that there is a huge issue with many of their mentalities and the way many of them view non-muslims and people who do not adhere their beliefs. And before someone tells me, yes, I know, Christians have their own whackos aswell, just not as many of them.
I can see it going either way, you could very well be on point for all I care.
n23x 0
QuoteSo by your logic, we should assume that every Mulsim man is a pedophile rapist. I mean, you are generalizing an entire group based off the actions of a few, no?
No, that is not what I'm saying. I am suggesting that, without being there, it's tough to comment on the actual conflict and escalation.
I am also saying that I've met a significant number of U.S. soldiers who "are not exactly PC and are not good examples of friendly diplomacy". Does that mean most or all of them behave like this? Absolutely not. Does it make me leary when I hear a story like, "I was just drinking water, and I got shot!"? Absolutely.
I'm not condoning the soldier being shot, or any of your above examples. I am simply responding to the posters whose responses seem to have the attitude that the US soldiers can do no wrong in foreign countries, and even if they do, they think "fuck those guys in those foreign countries".
.jim
"Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC
QuoteNo, that is not what I'm saying. I am suggesting that, without being there, it's tough to comment on the actual conflict and escalation.
Agreed, it is tough to comment and come to any definate conclusion, but with your "foolish at best" comment I thought you already made up your mind.
QuoteDoes it make me leary when I hear a story like, "I was just drinking water, and I got shot!"? Absolutely.
A guess the same could be applied to the police officer. If someone, no matter how much provoking went on, would shoot someone over drinking water, then yeah, I think it's safe to say that the cop falls in to the category I outlined in my previous post, the my way or the highway approach to religion.
Quotethey think "fuck those guys in those foreign countries".
While statements along the lines of "fuck this shithole" and "fuck this war" are very common, I don't think "fuck these foreigners" is said as much as you imply.
I suggest you keep your opinion to yourself.
Otherwise you could become quite a curiosity near a military installation or a DZ with a large contingency of Veterans.
So if it is lent and a Muslim wanted to eat meat would you think he would deserve the same?
You make me sick.
Furthermore hiding behind your keyboard and spouting your type of morality must give you quite a bit of self satisfaction, knowing you don't have to face those who might be a little annoyed with your shit.
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