JohnRich 4 #1 September 12, 2009 News:Ammunition Sales Restrictions, Gun Show Ban Moving Forward in California Yesterday, the Senate gave final approval to Senate Bill 585 by a 21-18 vote. SB585 now heads to the desk of Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) for his consideration. SB585 is a stepping-stone to banning gun shows on all publicly-owned property in California. SB585 would prohibit the sale of firearms and ammunition on the property or inside the buildings that comprise the Cow Palace in Daly City, just outside of San Francisco. The Senate also passed Assembly Bill 962 yesterday by a 21-18 vote. Ammunition retailers would have to store ammunition in such a manner that it would be inaccessible to purchasers. The bill requires that individuals purchasing ammunition be fingerprinted at the time of sale, mandates that dealers keep these records and make them available for inspection by the Department of Justice. Finally, mail order ammunition sales are prohibited under AB962.Source: Ammoland.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dks13827 3 #2 September 12, 2009 Constitution ? say what ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #3 September 12, 2009 And yet again, we see government finding that a black market is vastly superior than an open market. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
headoverheels 334 #4 September 14, 2009 I'm not a gun toter. How important is buying ammo by mail? I certainly use online sources for much of my purchasing these days (cost, convenience, selection), so I'm guessing the same applies to ammo. I don't really see how moving the shows from public to private venues helps anything, assuming that the expense is covered by admission/vending fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #5 September 14, 2009 QuoteHow important is buying ammo by mail? It's very important to a lot of people. You get some of the best prices that way. And you can buy specialty ammo that isn't available in normal sporting goods stores. Just try and buy M118 long range .308 in a normal sporting goods store. They'll look at you funny and go "Huh? All we got is huntin' ammo, Mister." The point of this law is to try and stop criminals from buying ammo. The problem is, criminals only need six rounds in a revolver to rob a convenience store. Someone who shoots in high-power matches like me, needs up to 88 rounds per match. This law will do nothing to stop the criminal from getting his six cartridges, but it would make things much more expensive for me as a legal target shooter. And the law didn't address reloading. If people make their own ammo in their own homes, is that going to be outlawed too? That's the only way I can afford to shoot. Commercial rifle ammo is now about a dollar per cartridge. That 88-shot match would cost me $88 to shoot, or more, if I bought my ammo in a store. QuoteI don't really see how moving the shows from public to private venues helps anything, assuming that the expense is covered by admission/vending fees. A gun show ought to have the same right to rent a public exhibition hall as any other type of event. They're not doing anything illegal, and this is just pure discrimination by anti-gun politicians. Imagine if they said that the NAACP could no longer use the public exhibition hall! And fingerprinting ammo buyers like criminals is just more of that discriminatory mindset. How about fingerprinting everyone who buys alcohol? And what are they going to do with those fingerprints? Let's say that a criminal named Leroy robs a convenience store with his revolver. Leroy is caught by the cops, charged with armed robbery, and faces 10 years in prison. Then the cops find out through his fingerprint that he purchased his ammo at Joe's Gun Shop. So what? It wasn't a crime for Leroy to buy that ammo. It wasn't a crime for Joe to sell him that ammo. So what's the point of the fingerprints? Next up: a billion dollar government program to create a database of all ammo purchasers, with automatic fingerprint matching, tracking who bought what, when and where. Whoopie! You'll never stop any criminal from getting six rounds of ammo. It's not worth the time and money to try. Just put Leroy in prison for a long time for the armed robbery, and don't worry about where he got his ammo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #6 September 14, 2009 Quote I'm not a gun toter. How important is buying ammo by mail? I certainly use online sources for much of my purchasing these days (cost, convenience, selection), so I'm guessing the same applies to ammo. Sure. It's a lot cheaper to buy bulk ammo than to get it a bit at a time at a local store. If you're a serious shooter (of whatever variety) the cost can add up pretty quick.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
