TomAiello 26 #26 September 9, 2009 QuoteMy initial reaction wasn't as much about the content of the speech... That would have been impossible, because when the issue came under discussion, there was not yet any content to react to--just the lesson plans with the assignment about supporting the President in his goals.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #27 September 10, 2009 Quote The second question was more notable, which coincidentally was the very subject of Obama's joint session of Congress address the next day, not to mention a pretty precocious question for a freshman. No wonder Obama wanted to take that one. The newbie Freshman asked, "...currently 36 countries have universal health coverage, including Iraq and Afghanistan, which have it paid for by the United States. Why can't the United States have universal health coverage?" Holy freeking crap I haven't heard such a load of Bull Shit in a long time!!! Having been to Afghanistan and Iraq, I can tell you they don't have a health care system. The "US Paid for Health Care" in both counties is a bunch of military field Medics that can from time to time make it to various villages to pass out Motrin and Pepto-bismal. If this is the direction this country really wants to take health care, we are all fucked."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #28 September 10, 2009 QuoteQuoteAttacking for use of funds is still attacking, but its VERY different than denouncing the president BEFORE he even speaks saying he is going to indoctrinate and brainwash all of America's children. Dept. of Education should have thought of that BEFORE they put "write letters to themselves about how they can help the President" as part of the lesson plan, then. But if people would have waited to hear the speech before they went on a witch hunt it would have been obvious as to what the question, "what can I do to help the president," really meant. After hearing that speech the answer would have been, "I can help him by listening to my teachers, never giving up, and furthering my education and being all that I can be in my life." Do I think ti was the best choice of words? Probably not because yes, the opportunity is there to take it just like the republicans/conservatives took it and ran with it. But I am almost certain that that was the context that question was to be taken in or else why would he have that partisan question in there like that when the rest of the speech lacked anything partisan? It wouldn't have matched up at all... would have made zero sense.Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #29 September 10, 2009 QuoteQuote The second question was more notable, which coincidentally was the very subject of Obama's joint session of Congress address the next day, not to mention a pretty precocious question for a freshman. No wonder Obama wanted to take that one. The newbie Freshman asked, "...currently 36 countries have universal health coverage, including Iraq and Afghanistan, which have it paid for by the United States. Why can't the United States have universal health coverage?" Holy freeking crap I haven't heard such a load of Bull Shit in a long time!!! Having been to Afghanistan and Iraq, I can tell you they don't have a health care system. The "US Paid for Health Care" in both counties is a bunch of military field Medics that can from time to time make it to various villages to pass out Motrin and Pepto-bismal. If this is the direction this country really wants to take health care, we are all fucked. Well, we destroyed Iraq's health care infrastructure during the war, so what exactly do you expect? If we'd had the sh1t bombed out of us I doubt our health care would be in very good shape. But the FACT remains that what we left them is universal coverage - paid for by US. Nice try at muddying the issue, though.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #30 September 10, 2009 My personal opinion is that the whole flap was the result of overly enthusiastic staffers. Still The plans were changed because the administration, in its wisdom, agreed that it went too far. What was in the speech? We don't know. Was it changed, too? We don't know. A large segment of the population spoke and were listened to. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #31 September 10, 2009 Is Obamacles thinking about making a speech about fathers who walk out on their families? Or maybe he wants to make a speech about being on welfare even though a person has a PhD? Maybe he wants to give a speech on what car you should drive. Heck maybe he will give a speech on how everyone who has guns should not receive health care under his plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LyraM45 0 #32 September 10, 2009 Quote Is Obamacles thinking about making a speech about fathers who walk out on their families? No only because my situation was shaped by such circumstance that I had both parents in my life, but I would still make a speech to kids about how I came from a welfare family and worked hard at my studies no matter what cards I was dealt in my life, and now I am a working professional getting a masters degree. Not the same situation, but hopefully equally inspiring to some kid thinking that there is no way he'll make it because of his circumstances like a father walking out or being from a poor family. QuoteOr maybe he wants to make a speech about being on welfare even though a person has a PhD Even people with PhD's find themselves in rough times-- emotionally, physically, and they too tend to run into circumstances where they become downtrodden. I've seen people with PhD's go downhill mentally... maybe they become skitzo or aquire some other mental disorder, and without support of family their life gets turned upside down and they are eating at soup kitchens, collecting welfare, or collecting disability. Having a PhD does not make you immune to these things. QuoteMaybe he wants to give a speech on what car you should drive. I think he has better things to do and bigger fish to fry.....really. QuoteHeck maybe he will give a speech on how everyone who has guns should not receive health care under his plan. Ummm... another right wing rumor started right here in our very own speakers corner. I'm sure it will end up on some conservative news paper headline tomorrow.Apologies for the spelling (and grammar).... I got a B.S, not a B.A. :) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 September 10, 2009 QuoteWould you trust an article on GWB if the Huffington Post was the only source? About as much as you'd trust anything that WASN'T a left-leaning source.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #34 September 10, 2009 Quote Quote Quote The second question was more notable, which coincidentally was the very subject of Obama's joint session of Congress address the next day, not to mention a pretty precocious question for a freshman. No wonder Obama wanted to take that one. The newbie Freshman asked, "...currently 36 countries have universal health coverage, including Iraq and Afghanistan, which have it paid for by the United States. Why can't the United States have universal health coverage?" Holy freeking crap I haven't heard such a load of Bull Shit in a long time!!! Having been to Afghanistan and Iraq, I can tell you they don't have a health care system. The "US Paid for Health Care" in both counties is a bunch of military field Medics that can from time to time make it to various villages to pass out Motrin and Pepto-bismal. If this is the direction this country really wants to take health care, we are all fucked. Well, we destroyed Iraq's health care infrastructure during the war, so what exactly do you expect? If we'd had the sh1t bombed out of us I doubt our health care would be in very good shape. But the FACT remains that what we left them is universal coverage - paid for by US. Nice try at muddying the issue, though. Saying the US is providing healthcare is like saying Doctors without borders is providing Universal Health care to Africa. It's not a Health Care program it's an outreach program. If you don't know the difference, I guess we need to put more money into the US Education system. Nice try at the liberal spin though."There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #35 September 10, 2009 QuoteQuoteWould you trust an article on GWB if the Huffington Post was the only source? About as much as you'd trust anything that WASN'T a left-leaning source. Right. When the sole source of any story is an outlet that has a clear bias either way, it's time to be a skeptic.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #36 September 10, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteWould you trust an article on GWB if the Huffington Post was the only source? About as much as you'd trust anything that WASN'T a left-leaning source. Right. When the sole source of any story is an outlet that has a clear bias either way, it's time to be a skeptic. Here's the hyperlink that was in the story: http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-in-Discussion-with-9th-Graders-Wakefield-High-School/ "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Channman 2 #37 September 10, 2009 Well I guess the parients fears that the president would get political was correct. Sean just happened upon that question in his sleep the night before.Well, that's all I've got to say about that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,131 #38 September 10, 2009 Quote Well I guess the parients fears that the president would get political was correct. Sean just happened upon that question in his sleep the night before.Well, that's all I've got to say about that. High school students aren't all stupid and ignorant of current events, despite your personal experience. Some have even been known to read newspapers and watch the news on TV (I did, and so did my kids).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,570 #39 September 10, 2009 I wouldn't put it past a good teacher to tell the students to read the newspapers and come up with a question based on current events. I know that my 8th grade history teacher (who had us do oral reports on current events) would have. Wendy P.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
