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Van Jones, Obama's Radical Czar

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Van Jones (Obama's Green Czar) has quite an interesting resume. Do you think he should step down, or stay?

I'm not sure which statement takes the grand prize between his uncouth remark that all Republicans are "assholes", to the statement that white people are responsible for black people's poverty.

Obama sure knows how to pick his peeps. :S


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/04/republican-congressman-calls-jones-resign/

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.

He'll be as good as Joe Biden, the gift that keeps on giving. It makes for good entertainment in its own right, plus it'll be fun watching some of the folks in SC defend him.
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?


i thought that was what this thread was all about :)
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?


i thought that was what this thread was all about :)


Learn to read better, then - I know it's difficult when you don't have alternatereality.net to cut/paste from, but I have hope for you.

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Nope, sure can't - but Pavlov is having a field day with you!
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?


i thought that was what this thread was all about :)


Learn to read better, then - I know it's difficult when you don't have alternatereality.net to cut/paste from, but I have hope for you.

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(can you hear those dog whistles)



Nope, sure can't - but Pavlov is having a field day with you!


you just haven't got the same acute hearing i have :)
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?


i thought that was what this thread was all about :)


Learn to read better, then - I know it's difficult when you don't have alternatereality.net to cut/paste from, but I have hope for you.

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(can you hear those dog whistles)



Nope, sure can't - but Pavlov is having a field day with you!


you just haven't got the same acute hearing i have :)


Nor the reflex-level knee jerk.
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?


i thought that was what this thread was all about :)


Learn to read better, then - I know it's difficult when you don't have alternatereality.net to cut/paste from, but I have hope for you.

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(can you hear those dog whistles)



Nope, sure can't - but Pavlov is having a field day with you!


you just haven't got the same acute hearing i have :)


Nor the reflex-level knee jerk.


when my knee gets tapped - it kicks. if yours doesn't there's a problem with your reflexes :)
stay away from moving propellers - they bite
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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


Being black doesn't make you a Marxist but he sure is acting like one. It's inexcusable to say what he said about white and "all" republicans. The man is clearly immature and hateful.

Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?!

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I say let him stay. Let him continue to say and do things that show what Obama is all about - radical, racial rabble rousing, and Marxist.



have you noticed he's black as well :)


WTF does THAT have to do with anything, Kevin?


i thought that was what this thread was all about :)


Learn to read better, then - I know it's difficult when you don't have alternatereality.net to cut/paste from, but I have hope for you.

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(can you hear those dog whistles)



Nope, sure can't - but Pavlov is having a field day with you!


you just haven't got the same acute hearing i have :)


Nor the reflex-level knee jerk.


when my knee gets tapped - it kicks. if yours doesn't there's a problem with your reflexes :)


the problem is that you're tapping your own knee - like usual.
Mike
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his uncouth remark that all Republicans are "assholes",



And this is where the out-of-context distortion begins. Yes, the remark was uncouth. But he didn't say that ALL Republicans are assholes (as you've now claimed twice).

In a Q & A session about 7 months ago, he was asked why Republicans in Congress had more success moving legislation in previous years than Democrats seem to have today:

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He made the remarks in February during an energy lecture in Berkeley, Calif., after a woman in the audience asked him why President Obama and congressional Democrats were having trouble moving legislation -- even though Republicans, with a smaller majority, didn't have as much trouble earlier in the Bush administration.

"Well, the answer to that is, they're assholes," Jones said, to uproarious laughter. "That's a technical, political science term."

The questioner responded, "I was afraid that that was the answer."

But Jones said that, even though Obama is "not an asshole," others have to step up the fight.

"Now, I will say this. I can be an asshole, and some of us who are not Barack Hussein Obama are going to have to start getting a little bit uppity," he said.



http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:Tr5upPR3-LkJ:www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/02/white-house-green-jobs-adviser-republicans-assholes/+%22van+jones%22+assholes&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Now you have it in complete context. It's often said that in hardball politics, you have to be a tough SOB to prevail. Jones was acknowledging, albeit crudely for a public forum, that Republicans have been tougher SOBs than Democrats have, and that was reflected in the Republicans' legislative success rate. It was, in fact, a form of warrior-to-warrior complement at the toughness of Congressional Republicans.

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Van Jones (Obama's Green Czar) has quite an interesting resume. Do you think he should step down, or stay?

I'm not sure which statement takes the grand prize between his uncouth remark that all Republicans are "assholes", to the statement that white people are responsible for black people's poverty.



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the statement that white people are responsible for black people's poverty.



Another distortion. As an environmental activist, he's said, a number of times, that polluting corporations - which do tend to be primarily white-owned - tend to steer their pollution-creating activities to the poorest neighborhoods that have the least economic (and thus political) clout to oppose it, and those often tend to be black communities. He hasn't always been tactful in the way he's phrased it, but it's a far cry from what you've claimed he said.

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Seems like the "assholes" comment was directed at Congressional Democrats, not Republicans. But the interesting part of this story is this:

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Pence also called on Obama to suspend appointment of additional so-called "czars" until Congress has a chance to examine the background and responsibilities of such individuals, as well as to determine the constitutionality of such appointments.



The appointment of Czars has always been the privilege of the White House, and not Congress. It sounds like a power-play to remove more authority from the President.
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The appointment of Czars has always been the privilege of the White House, and not Congress. It sounds like a power-play to remove more authority from the President.



Maybe Obama should be more worried about filling his Cabinet than 'wishing on czars'.
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the statement that white people are responsible for black people's poverty.



Another distortion. As an environmental activist, he's said, a number of times, that polluting corporations - which do tend to be primarily white-owned - tend to steer their pollution-creating activities to the poorest neighborhoods that have the least economic (and thus political) clout to oppose it, and those often tend to be black communities. He hasn't always been tactful in the way he's phrased it, but it's a far cry from what you've claimed he said.



Wrong. The exact quote is "White polluters and White environmentalists are steering pollution into the black communities". Sounds pretty blatant about how he feels about us "great white oppressors". Here is his exact words:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6gOmIalJVw

No hiding what he is, a racist. He may be black, but he is still a racist.
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No hiding what he is, a racist. He may be black, but he is still a racist.





Didn't you read Jesse Jackson 1-0-1? Only whites are racist!!!!!!!!!:S


pretty much only whites have the political power to be racist in the us and europe :)
(remember all those white, blue eyed bankers that ripped off the black middle class)
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the white racists get their way - again :)


In a world where a talk to kids about staying in school and getting good grades gets warped by the right-wing talking heads into some socialist indoctrination program, this guy didn't stand a chance of ever having said anything if it was ever on tape.

Well, he did say "something" and a tape did emerge. In the best interest of lowering the temperature, he resigned.

Actually more noble than a lot of cronies in previous administrations, where no matter how bad of a thing they did, they never fessed up and resigned.
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the white racists get their way - again :)


In a world where a talk to kids about staying in school and getting good grades gets warped by the right-wing talking heads into some socialist indoctrination program, this guy didn't stand a chance of ever having said anything if it was ever on tape.

Well, he did say "something" and a tape did emerge. In the best interest of lowering the temperature, he resigned.

Actually more noble than a lot of cronies in previous administrations, where no matter how bad of a thing they did, they never fessed up and resigned.


and the 'thing' that mustn't be mentioned is the obvious racism from the majority white population.
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