cliffwhite 0 #1 September 2, 2009 So what's the big deal about waterboarding? I mean, they've admitted it now. After so many years of lying. So what's the big deal? Surely you wouldn't care one bit if they used it on your mother to find out where you were on one particular friday night. Thing is.., torture only gets the torturee to say what he believes the torturer wants to hear. We've known this for decades. Dick C knows that. (he got the memo) So why torture? Could it be that Dick needed people to admit to crimes for which they weren't guilty? 9-11 Hmm! Blues , Cliff2muchTruth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 September 2, 2009 Don't worry. We'll just move it over to Bagram. No annoying reporters in there, no irritating Red Cross...it's much better. Meet the new boss...same as the old boss.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #3 September 2, 2009 QuoteMeet the new boss...same as the old boss. It is peculiar that you keep posting those images, Obama and GW are like chalk and cheese."When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #4 September 2, 2009 QuoteQuoteMeet the new boss...same as the old boss. It is peculiar that you keep posting those images, Obama and GW are like chalk and cheese. So they'd like us to think. Curious that "high value detainees" are now being interrogated (behind closed doors) at Bagram, though, isn't it?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhys 0 #5 September 3, 2009 QuoteSo they'd like us to think. Curious that "high value detainees" are now being interrogated (behind closed doors) at Bagram, though, isn't it? America has a long history with rough politics, It is intersting that you say; QuoteSo they'd like us to think. Do you believe there is a conspiracy? they (GW and Obama) are just puppets under one adgenda? If I was one of the other closed minded morons in here I would call you a tin hatter, but as I am receptive to new ideas ( this idea is not new however), can you elaborate on you opinion here?"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #6 September 3, 2009 QuoteDo you believe there is a conspiracy? they (GW and Obama) are just puppets under one agenda? I don't think I'd call it a conspiracy. It's how our foreign policy is conducted these days. We appear to be running a global empire. We invade, kill, torture and otherwise run roughshod over people in other parts of the world. We somehow regard this as either our god-given right or even our duty. I don't like it, personally. And I think that Dick Cheney is a big proponent of it. I've been disappointed to realize that, despite some lofty rhetoric, Barack Obama appears just as likely to do these sorts of things as his predecessors. Our foreign policy worldview is so entrenched, and so myopic, that "debate" over it amounts to arguing over which part of the world we ought to be sending people to die and kill, and where we ought to be doing our torturing and intimidation. There doesn't appear to be any real debate about whether we do, in fact, need to do those things at all.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
