happythoughts 0 #26 August 20, 2009 Can't we just split the difference on this issue? Let's send him 50% of the way home... right about the middle of the Med. ...green light... exit! exit! exit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #27 August 20, 2009 Bull shit. He should die alone just like his victims, and he should know his remains will be scattered never to be sent home. Liberals deleted....... Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #28 August 20, 2009 it's very likely that this guy didn't do the bombing - he's just a patsy picked to take the rap. (lucky we don't have a death penalty) stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #29 August 20, 2009 what about these bombers? Quote the cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 with the loss of all 290 passengers and crew on July 3, 1988. The American government claimed that the airliner had been mistaken for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat, and that the USS Vincennes was operating in international waters at the time and feared that it was under attack. The Iranians maintain that the Vincennes was in Iranian territorial waters, and that the passenger jet was turning away and increasing altitude after take-off. U.S. Admiral William J. Crowe later acknowledged on ABC's Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles. The United States has never formally apologized for the attack in which 290 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#The_USS_Vincennes_incidentstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #30 August 20, 2009 Quote it's very likely that this guy didn't do the bombing - he's just a patsy picked to take the rap. Perhaps, but he still should take it. At the very least it still sends the message that it will not be tolerated and at some level "the real" bomber would have to know that one of his bothers was paying for a crime he was too much of a coward to claim responsibility for.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #31 August 20, 2009 i'm sure admiral crowe realises his crime.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
miked10270 0 #32 August 20, 2009 Quote Quote it's very likely that this guy didn't do the bombing - he's just a patsy picked to take the rap. Perhaps, but he still should take it. At the very least it still sends the message that it will not be tolerated and at some level "the real" bomber would have to know that one of his bothers was paying for a crime he was too much of a coward to claim responsibility for. So... Al-Megrahi should be punished for a crime he didn't commit!? And enjoy it!? In the hope it'll make someone else feel a bit ashamed & uncomfortable... Maybe!? Would you do that? Taking the piss out of the FrenchAmericans since before it was fashionable. Prenait la pisse hors du FrançaisCanadiens méridionaux puisqu'avant lui à la mode. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #33 August 20, 2009 Quote Bull shit. He should die alone just like his victims, and he should know his remains will be scattered never to be sent home. Liberals deleted....... My post was voting with people saying keep him locked up. You turn it into a childish, FoxNews-style bash-of-opportunity against "liberals". Whatever. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #34 August 20, 2009 QuoteHow the hell does that happen? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/19/lockerbie-bomber-to-be-freed "On compassionate grounds" What the fuck? The Holy Bible offers guidance in this situation as it does in all of life's circumstances. The following is Scriptural justification for the death penalty. Quote Romans 13:(NKJV) 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. He should have been executed. He should die in prison. He should not go home with the message that western governments are becoming soft-hearted. More signs of the times, giving strength to the enemy until the final conflict between good and evil. California is considering a similar case with the upcoming parole hearing for Susan Atkins who murdered Sharon Tate as a member of the Manson Family. http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/sns-200908131754tmslizsmittr--x-a20090814aug14,0,1888820.story Quote ON SEPT. 2, a parole board will hear Susan Atkins' plea that she be allowed out of prison because she is suffering from a terminal brain tumor that has nearly paralyzed her. This 61-year-old member of the Charles Manson hippie dropout "Family" is the same killing machine who stabbed Sharon Tate 16 times as the actress begged for the life of her unborn child on the night of Aug. 8, 1969 in Hollywood. Quote There's no way to delay the trouble coming everyday.~Frank ZappaLook for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #35 August 20, 2009 you sure have read your book well ron stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redlegphi 0 #36 August 20, 2009 I could be wrong, but I think that exact passage from the Bible was used to justify the rule of absolute monarchs in Europe for several centuries. So maybe we should just stop trying to use the Bible to justify our actions and could instead use some common sense and logic. Just a thought. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #37 August 20, 2009 QuoteI could be wrong, but I think that exact passage from the Bible was used to justify the rule of absolute monarchs in Europe for several centuries. So maybe we should just stop trying to use the Bible to justify our actions and could instead use some common sense and logic. Just a thought. I'm not positive but, I don't think anyone has ever successfully proved that I behave in that manner.Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #38 August 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteI could be wrong, but I think that exact passage from the Bible was used to justify the rule of absolute monarchs in Europe for several centuries. So maybe we should just stop trying to use the Bible to justify our actions and could instead use some common sense and logic. Just a thought. I'm not positive but, I don't think anyone has ever successfully proved that I behave in that manner. What, using common sense and logic? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RonD1120 62 #39 August 20, 2009 Quote I'm not positive but, I don't think anyone has ever successfully proved that I behave in that manner. What, using common sense and logic? Look for the shiny things of God revealed by the Holy Spirit. They only last for an instant but it is a Holy Instant. Let your soul absorb them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #40 August 20, 2009 Quotewhat about these bombers? Quote the cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 with the loss of all 290 passengers and crew on July 3, 1988. The American government claimed that the airliner had been mistaken for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat, and that the USS Vincennes was operating in international waters at the time and feared that it was under attack. The Iranians maintain that the Vincennes was in Iranian territorial waters, and that the passenger jet was turning away and increasing altitude after take-off. U.S. Admiral William J. Crowe later acknowledged on ABC's Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles. The United States has never formally apologized for the attack in which 290 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#The_USS_Vincennes_incident Unintentional versus premeditated. Did you catch that? Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyChimp 0 #41 August 20, 2009 You wouldn't be saying that if it was your family member killed aboard that plane. I have an idea..... Don't bomb planes and you won't rot in prison until you die. There's an idea. Does anyone else find it funny that we made a SPORT out of an EMERGENCY PROCEDURE?!?! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #42 August 20, 2009 I keep telling you guys, Frank Zappa was a prophet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #43 August 20, 2009 Quote you sure have read your book well ron That could be considered a PA. Why don't you run out to the garden and play nice with the other kids now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #44 August 20, 2009 QuoteQuotewhat about these bombers? Quote the cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 with the loss of all 290 passengers and crew on July 3, 1988. The American government claimed that the airliner had been mistaken for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat, and that the USS Vincennes was operating in international waters at the time and feared that it was under attack. The Iranians maintain that the Vincennes was in Iranian territorial waters, and that the passenger jet was turning away and increasing altitude after take-off. U.S. Admiral William J. Crowe later acknowledged on ABC's Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles. The United States has never formally apologized for the attack in which 290 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#The_USS_Vincennes_incident Unintentional versus premeditated. Did you catch that? murder is murder. (was lockerbie really a surprise after this iranian airliner had been shot down)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #45 August 20, 2009 QuoteQuotewhat about these bombers? Quote the cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 with the loss of all 290 passengers and crew on July 3, 1988. The American government claimed that the airliner had been mistaken for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat, and that the USS Vincennes was operating in international waters at the time and feared that it was under attack. The Iranians maintain that the Vincennes was in Iranian territorial waters, and that the passenger jet was turning away and increasing altitude after take-off. U.S. Admiral William J. Crowe later acknowledged on ABC's Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles. The United States has never formally apologized for the attack in which 290 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#The_USS_Vincennes_incident Unintentional versus premeditated. Did you catch that? The missile didn't launch itself at the airliner. Someone gave the order.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,110 #46 August 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteHow the hell does that happen? http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/19/lockerbie-bomber-to-be-freed "On compassionate grounds" What the fuck? The Holy Bible offers guidance in this situation as it does in all of life's circumstances. The following is Scriptural justification for what the Scottish govt. decided to do Quote Romans 13:(NKJV) 1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God’s minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil. And presumably your God would then agree with the Scottish minister. What would Jesus have done? (hint, Sermon on the Mount).... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #47 August 20, 2009 Quote Quote you sure have read your book well ron That could be considered a PA. Why don't you run out to the garden and play nice with the other kids now? stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jman 0 #48 August 20, 2009 He caused Pan Am flight 103 to fall out of the sky. Take him up & throw him out the door so he knows what it feels like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #49 August 20, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat about these bombers? Quote the cruiser USS Vincennes shot down Iran Air Flight 655 with the loss of all 290 passengers and crew on July 3, 1988. The American government claimed that the airliner had been mistaken for an Iranian F-14 Tomcat, and that the USS Vincennes was operating in international waters at the time and feared that it was under attack. The Iranians maintain that the Vincennes was in Iranian territorial waters, and that the passenger jet was turning away and increasing altitude after take-off. U.S. Admiral William J. Crowe later acknowledged on ABC's Nightline that the Vincennes was inside Iranian territorial waters when it launched the missiles. The United States has never formally apologized for the attack in which 290 civilians died. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_support_for_Iraq_during_the_Iran%E2%80%93Iraq_war#The_USS_Vincennes_incident Unintentional versus premeditated. Did you catch that? murder is murder. (was lockerbie really a surprise after this iranian airliner had been shot down) At last, we agree on something. Neither act was Right but a lot of people have rose colour glasses when their government does wrong. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy_Copland 0 #50 August 20, 2009 America is all up in arms about this (and im pissed too) but its funny when the tables turn... Trying to be all hard on terrorists...i mean how many IRA terrorist suspects where handed to the Brits who fled to the US?1338 People aint made of nothin' but water and shit. Until morale improves, the beatings will continue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
