Lockerbie bomber to be set free?!? Really?

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How the hell does that happen?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/19/lockerbie-bomber-to-be-freed

"On compassionate grounds" What the fuck?

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[kelpdiver 2]

8 years for killing 270 people. That's justice on that side of the pond.

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"Scottish officials again attempted to rebut allegations of a secret political deal tonight, supposedly to promote lucrative western oil interests in Libya and the rehabilitation on the world stage of the country's leader, Muammar Gaddafi."

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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How the hell does that happen?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/aug/19/lockerbie-bomber-to-be-freed

"On compassionate grounds" What the fuck?

They are proud of the stat that shows they have fewer people per capita in jail.

Maybe now we know why

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[StreetScooby 5]

If they had a 2nd amendment over there, the judge who made that decision would rightly be concerned for his own well being. Simply ridiculous.

We are all engines of karma

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Yeah, they're letting 'everyone' out these days:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/08/07/uk.biggs.release/

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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If they had a 2nd amendment over there, the judge who made that decision would rightly be concerned for his own well being. Simply ridiculous.

"Scottish officials again attempted to rebut allegations of a secret political deal tonight, supposedly to promote lucrative western oil interests in Libya and the rehabilitation on the world stage of the country's leader, Muammar Gaddafi."

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

[billvon 3,096]

>"On compassionate grounds" What the fuck?

You know, if the guy is really that close to death, who cares where he dies? He can die in a hospital in Libya or in an infirmary in England; doesn't really matter to me. Might even save the UK some money.

What does matter is that he won't have a chance to try anything like that again.

(OTOH if he's got a year left, then that's a problem.)

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http://indepth.news.sky.com/InDepth/topic/Prince_Andrew_And_Libya

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1161862/GEOFFREY-LEVY-Why-Prince-Andrew-cosying-dubious-oligarchs.html


And if you've any interest you'll love this article:

"US spies blamed Iran for Lockerbie bomb"

'American intelligence documents blaming Iran for the Lockerbie bombing would have been produced in court if the Libyan convicted of Britain’s worst terrorist attack had not dropped his appeal.

Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi, a former Libyan intelligence officer expected to be freed this week, had instructed his lawyers to produce internal US intelligence communications unavailable to his defence team at his trial in 2000.

The cables, from the American Defence Intelligence Agency (DIA), suggest that Iran was behind the attack on Pan Am flight 103, which killed 270 people in 1988, in response to the shooting down of an Iranian commercial airliner by the USS Vincennes, an American warship, five months earlier.

One document that the defence team had planned to produce was a memo from the DIA dated September 24, 1989. It states: “The bombing of the Pan Am flight was conceived, authorised and financed by Ali-Akbar (Mohtashemi-Pur), the former Iranian minister of interior.

“The execution of the operation was contracted to Ahmad (Jabril), Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine General Command (PFLP-GC) leader, for a sum of 1,000,000 US dollars.

“One hundred thousand dollars of this money was given to Jabril up front in Damascus by the Iranian ambassador to Sy [ie Syria], Muhammad Hussan (Akhari) for initial expenses. The remainder of the money was to be paid after successful completion of the mission.”

The document is included in an unpublished report by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission, a public body that considers miscarriage of justice claims and which had cast doubt in 2007 on the safety of Megrahi’s conviction.

The report also cites a DIA briefing in December 1989 entitled Pan Am 103, Deadly Co-operation, which named Iran as the probable state sponsor of the bombing.

Robert Baer, a retired senior CIA agent who claims that Iran was behind the attack, has alleged that the Americans were wary of pursuing the country in case it disrupted oil supplies and damaged the economy.'



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6797773.ece

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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>"On compassionate grounds" What the fuck?

You know, if the guy is really that close to death, who cares where he dies? He can die in a hospital in Libya or in an infirmary in England; doesn't really matter to me. Might even save the UK some money.

What does matter is that he won't have a chance to try anything like that again.

(OTOH if he's got a year left, then that's a problem.)

I guess Bill, if one of my family died because of what he did, it would matter.

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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A good death penalty will avoid the situations from arising.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[billvon 3,096]

>I guess Bill, if one of my family died because of what he did, it would matter.

Why? If he dies in a bed in the UK as opposed to a bed in Libya, would it bring your family member back? Would the location of his death make you feel better?

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Does anyone really believe he's being freed on compassionate grounds!? Read the links I provided, do some searching yourselves....FFS.

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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Would the location of his death make you feel better?

Sure it would if it were my family. Instead of a bed in Libya, I'd prefer to hear him gasping his last with my thumbs in his larynx.

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[billvon 3,096]

> Instead of a bed in Libya, I'd prefer to hear him gasping his last with
>my thumbs in his larynx.

OK. Two deaths would not make me feel better than one, but that's just me. Everyone's different I suppose.

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Aren't we now best mates with Libya for the oil and seeing as they ditched WMD's...? Was the so called bomber set up by the CIA? Was it better to get rid before the appeal exposed this? And then there's Prince Andrew meeting the colonel's son. All coincidence, right?

'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.'

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OK. Two deaths would not make me feel better than one, but that's just me. Everyone's different I suppose.

I man up and take care of my own-everyone's different I suppose

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

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>"On compassionate grounds" What the fuck?

You know, if the guy is really that close to death, who cares where he dies? He can die in a hospital in Libya or in an infirmary in England; doesn't really matter to me. Might even save the UK some money.

What does matter is that he won't have a chance to try anything like that again.

(OTOH if he's got a year left, then that's a problem.)

That SOB should go to his prison grave; nothing more. Kind of like hunting down Nazi thugs who have only one breath to breathe.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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>I guess Bill, if one of my family died because of what he did, it would matter.

Why? If he dies in a bed in the UK as opposed to a bed in Libya, would it bring your family member back? Would the location of his death make you feel better?

If the SOB that killed someone you love and was allowed to die out of prison how would you feel?

But, it is about justice not feelings in the end. THAT I know is a hard concept for you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Aren't we now best mates with Libya for the oil and seeing as they ditched WMD's...? Was the so called bomber set up by the CIA? Was it better to get rid before the appeal exposed this? And then there's Prince Andrew meeting the colonel's son. All coincidence, right?

Gee, years ago when Momar was just a thorn, I had hopes he would make our House and Senate disappear so we could start over. Unfortunately, we scared him a little too much.

Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts.

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I would offer him semi-precious metal.

Maybe his family too.

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>"On compassionate grounds" What the fuck?
You know, if the guy is really that close to death, who cares where he dies? He can die in a hospital in Libya or in an infirmary in England; doesn't really matter to me. Might even save the UK some money.
What does matter is that he won't have a chance to try anything like that again.
(OTOH if he's got a year left, then that's a problem.)

It's a problem because it sends the wrong message to real terrorist that they can do something like this, be caught, convicted, sentenced to life in jail yet still die at home in the arms of their loved ones.

That's bullshit.

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It's a problem because it sends the wrong message to real terrorist that they can do something like this, be caught, convicted, sentenced to life in jail yet still die at home in the arms of their loved ones.

That's bullshit.

Yep - let him die in the prison ward next to 15 other beds full of low lifes.

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It's a problem because it sends the wrong message to real terrorist that they can do something like this, be caught, convicted, sentenced to life in jail yet still die at home in the arms of their loved ones.

That's bullshit.

Yep - let him die in the prison ward next to 15 other beds full of low lifes.

Yeah, I'm going to add my vote to this. Provide him with humane hospice care in a bed in the hospital wing of the prison in the UK, where he should die under a status of incarceration. Yes, the principle of it does matter; it is a reasonable component of justice. Then repatriate his remains to his family. In the meantime, as a humanitarian gesture to his family - not to him - I'd allow his family to visit him at the UK prison hospital. At Libya's expense.