Earthlings (Documentary)

[riddler 0]

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all of the above should be part of a healthy diet (except potatoes).

I don't disagree. For one person. The problem is that for nearly 7 billion people, utilizing the resources to eat a meat-heavy diet is not currently sustainable with modern technology. Unless people very quickly find a way to cut the resource utilization of and consumption of our meat products (by at least 90%), then we are going to run out of resources quickly as a planet. Since people can get the equivalent nutrition from a plant-based diet, at a fraction of the cost, resource-wise, it's the only currently viable way that we're going to be able to prevent massive human starvation in the future.

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if you can't eat it fresh raw, then our bodies weren't designed to eat it.

I agree there, too. Raw Vegans probably have the least environmental impact with regard to energy consumption. But it's a difficult to eat that way (believe me, I keep trying ) when you've been raised on the standard american diet. Potatoes are an example of a famine-food that can sustain people, albeit uncomfortably and for short periods, when other foods are not available.

I don't try to encourage people to become vegetarians, since I believe that eating meat is part of our heritage. But I do try to encourage them to eat less meat, and to consider the environmental impact of what they eat. Humans didn't evolve to eat nearly the quantities meat as we consume in America today - it's bad for our bodies and for the planet.

Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD

[futuredivot 0]

So, was it the "granola cruncher" comment?

You are only as strong as the prey you devour

[riddler 0]

If anyone is interested in the movie, you don't have to hunt it down in obscure video shops, or even wait for it in Netflix. You can watch it right now in low-res, using Google:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6361872964130308142

Narrated by Joaquin Phoenix and original musical score by Moby.

Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD

[rhaig 0]

I try to keep my diet 20-25% calories from fat, and the rest equally balanced between carbs and protein. That means for my 1800cal/day diet, I need at most 180g of protein a day. (4cal per gram approximately). that's about 0.4lb of meat per day.

I don't know that I'd call that "meat heavy".

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Rob

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Now, if you know something is wrong and need a kick in the butt to practice what you preach (like PLFXpert said "For me the film really helped me get over my personal temptations in a way that simply reading about the processes could not." ) then the emotional wallop might be just the right thing.

While the film_did_result in making temptation far easier for me to resist, that was not my reason for watching it.

If I want to gain information about something and have several sources and/or outlets as options of receiving that information, I will check out all of them, rather than rely on one source or one outlet. If I care about something and want to familiarize myself with as much information as possible, I will not avoid reading, listening to or watching anything simply because it is highly emotional for me and many times tough to get through.

Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back.

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: I realize those who have not seen it will still comment, but ideally only looking for discussion from those who have seen the documentary film, Earthlings.

Any and all comments and thoughts welcomed (from anyone who has watched the film).

Thanks!

Thank you for posting this, I watched the trailer, heavy stuff, downloading the movie now...

will comment later.

i have been interested in the way milk is produced here in California.

Coming from a Nation that is a heavy dairy producer (New Zealand). I am shocked at how the animals are being treated here. While there are grapes falling off the vines not being used, down the road there are cows living in tin sheds that live in thier own faeces.

If it is disgusting to smell it in your car driving at 70mph 2 miles away, then imagine what it is like spending your entire existance in such an environment.

Is it better to have $2.50 bottles of wine and $1.70 a gallon milk? Or share the land and have slightly more expensive, yet flavoursome milk and wine? and a healthy and happy environment?


There is 2 major problems with the 'shed' type of farming;

1, the animals are not healthy, it is cruel and immoral.

2, We as consumers recieve a substandard, potentially unhealthy product.

Can I taste the difference, damned staight I can. The milk is watery and much less tastey here, compared to home.

At home all dairy cows live in green pastures. They greet the farmer at the gate at the same time every day, and live a cows life. Not in a prison of stench, pain and misery.

I will watch the movie after work (with my wife) and comment on it then.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix