The Ugly Racism of the Right Will Be Their Undoing

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get the lynch mob ready...

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Watching the GOP morph into the National Association for the Advancement of White People should give us all hope, not despair.

It'd be nice to think that the recent surge in overtly racist rhetoric on the right has been a case of random opportunism, provoked by the coincidence of a wealthy black Harvard professor yelling at a white cop who arrested him in his own home. Like, who could've predicted that the professor would be a friend of the Harvard law school graduate who is president, or that president would then say on camera that the cops acted "stupidly"? Or that the incident would happen just as Congress was going into a clinch over health care reform?

The Henry Louis Gates imbroglio did come out of nowhere, and it did give President Obama's opponents a chance to howl about the onerous burdens "reverse racism" puts on the fading white majority in this country. You may not see how that justifies the big-time bigotry that took over the discourse last week, but hey, it's a white thang: There were Birthers insisting that Obama's presidency is illegitimate because he was "born in Kenya"; CNN's Lou Dobbs trying to legitimize the Birthers, and of course, an angry Rush Limbaugh fuming that Obama "is an angry black man." None of them, however, could hold a fuse next to Glenn Beck, who asserted that the biracial POTUS is a "racist" who has "a deep-seated hatred of white people," something so unhinged that even the Brown-Haired-Guy-Who's-Not-Steve-Doocy (the Fox & Friends cohost who had to apologize a couple weeks ago for blurting that Swedes and "other ethnics" are different "species") called him on it.

It's not only angry white male pundits who are waving the white victimhood flag. It's also the chair of the Senate Republican Campaign Committee, Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who last Thursday called the kettle dusky by excoriating Democrats who've defended Sonia Sotomayor for "giving cover to groups and individuals to nurture racial grievances for political advantage."

With every passing day it gets harder to think of this sudden dialing-up of whiny hate speech as sheer coincidence. Instead, it's beginning to look inevitable -- so much so that maybe the real question is, What is it about health care that brings out the latent racism in the GOP?

The answer is simple: For two or three generations, Republicans have defeated progressive reform of the health care system by hinting that it would mean redistributing wealth from whites to blacks. As Beck himself said, practically redefining "welfare queen" as "healthcare queen": "Everything that is getting pushed through Congress, including this health care bill, are transforming America, and they're all driven by President Obama's thinking on one idea: reparations."

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141736/the_ugly_racism_of_the_right_will_be_their_undoing/

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[mnealtx 0]

Remind me again WHICH party is the one that tells minorities "you can't make it without OUR help"?

What's that, you say? The Democrats? Gold star for you!!!

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get the lynch mob ready...

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Watching the GOP morph into the National Association for the Advancement of White People should give us all hope, not despair.

It'd be nice to think that the recent surge in overtly racist rhetoric on the right has been a case of random opportunism, provoked by the coincidence of a wealthy black Harvard professor yelling at a white cop who arrested him in his own home. Like, who could've predicted that the professor would be a friend of the Harvard law school graduate who is president, or that president would then say on camera that the cops acted "stupidly"? Or that the incident would happen just as Congress was going into a clinch over health care reform?

The Henry Louis Gates imbroglio did come out of nowhere, and it did give President Obama's opponents a chance to howl about the onerous burdens "reverse racism" puts on the fading white majority in this country. You may not see how that justifies the big-time bigotry that took over the discourse last week, but hey, it's a white thang: There were Birthers insisting that Obama's presidency is illegitimate because he was "born in Kenya"; CNN's Lou Dobbs trying to legitimize the Birthers, and of course, an angry Rush Limbaugh fuming that Obama "is an angry black man." None of them, however, could hold a fuse next to Glenn Beck, who asserted that the biracial POTUS is a "racist" who has "a deep-seated hatred of white people," something so unhinged that even the Brown-Haired-Guy-Who's-Not-Steve-Doocy (the Fox & Friends cohost who had to apologize a couple weeks ago for blurting that Swedes and "other ethnics" are different "species") called him on it.

It's not only angry white male pundits who are waving the white victimhood flag. It's also the chair of the Senate Republican Campaign Committee, Texas Sen. John Cornyn, who last Thursday called the kettle dusky by excoriating Democrats who've defended Sonia Sotomayor for "giving cover to groups and individuals to nurture racial grievances for political advantage."

With every passing day it gets harder to think of this sudden dialing-up of whiny hate speech as sheer coincidence. Instead, it's beginning to look inevitable -- so much so that maybe the real question is, What is it about health care that brings out the latent racism in the GOP?

The answer is simple: For two or three generations, Republicans have defeated progressive reform of the health care system by hinting that it would mean redistributing wealth from whites to blacks. As Beck himself said, practically redefining "welfare queen" as "healthcare queen": "Everything that is getting pushed through Congress, including this health care bill, are transforming America, and they're all driven by President Obama's thinking on one idea: reparations."

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/141736/the_ugly_racism_of_the_right_will_be_their_undoing/

Racism is racism. Jesse Jackson, David Duke and Al Sharpton are cut from the same cloth - with the exception that Jesse and Al make their living solely from racism.

People of all persuasions get locked up for losing their tempers at police. It's nothing personal, it's just the way it works. It does not matter whether the person is screaming "this is all about the color of my skin!" or "I paid way too much for this muffler!;" if they do not pipe down when so instructed, they may get the opportunity to calm down in the Cooler. It happens across the racial and political spectrum all the time, but it is more newsworthy in some cases than others.

The health care system may have problems, but the "progressive reform" suggested by various attorneys holding elective office is hardly the solution. It is about as bright as addressing the problem of people driving into trees by requiring all trees to be capable of impact by cars without injury to the occupants.

Just because the Religious Right may be consummate assholes does not mean that the Glassy Eyed Left is not comprised of assholes of equal stupidity. The enemy of my enemy, far from being my friend, is more often than not every bit as bad, if not worse (z.B., Moscow was hardly an improvement over Berlin ca. 1939).

I do not so much object to "the Left" or "the Right" as I do to quintessentially ignorant people making binding decisions. Unfortunately, anyone with a clue is culled from the electoral process by the Primaries.

It is said that a people get the government they deserve. If so, we must be overwhelmingly mediocre.


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[chasteh 0]

Neat. So now "we can help you" turns into "you can't make it without our help."

What's that? An example of a rhetorical fallacy used to paint an entire political party with a false slogan? Gold star for you!

Look! It's the black republican guy! Hell, now we can tell other people we really do care about ethnic minorities, and have real evidence to prove it! Hooray!

[mnealtx 0]

*yawn*

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[chasteh 0]

Yep. How boring. Just like all the factual sources of information out there.

Cold, dry, and informational. They should be more like Rush Limbaugh.

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Neat. So now "we can help you" turns into "you can't make it without our help."

What's that? An example of a rhetorical fallacy used to paint an entire political party with a false slogan? Gold star for you!

Look! It's the black republican guy! Hell, now we can tell other people we really do care about ethnic minorities, and have real evidence to prove it! Hooray!

Tell me please, what do you think would be the publics reaction to a figurehead speaking on national TV and taking a speech from Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, or even Professor Gates' repetoire, substituting whatever race that they are touting, and inserting the word white or caucasion in it's stead.

Here is the twister . . . Although I doubt if you will be able to grasp it in it's purest form, and that there will be some sort of defensive mechanism that comes to the front of your mind because of the injustice of it all, but I'll try anyway.

If you can substitute a color (or race identifier) in a description of a point of view, and it causes outrage, it is a racist point of view. It is that simple. It doesn't matter what race it is that is identified. In simpler terms: Just because you say "Black Power" instaed of "White Power" you are STILL a racist.

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Yep. How boring. Just like all the factual sources of information out there.

And maybe you'll even find some.

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Cold, dry, and informational. They should be more like Rush Limbaugh.

Never listened to him - but you must be a real fan, to know whether he's 'cold, dry and informational' or not.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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>Although I doubt if you will be able to grasp it in it's purest form, and that there will be some sort of defensive mechanism that comes to the front of your mind because of the injustice of it all, but I'll try anyway.

Youch! How many more insults can you put in a post?

Way to slam me down before bringing your point acrossed. Defense mechanisms or not, you are using attack against the person here. Fuck off.

>If you can substitute a color (or race identifier) in a description of a point of view, and it causes outrage, it is a racist point of view

Fair enough.. Were you going to negate my hyperbole? Or are you just flaming against me because I have pissed you off in the past? The first two thirds of your post indicate your rage. Calm the fuck down.

>Just because you say "Black Power" instaed of "White Power" you are STILL a racist.

Here, i'll give you the first time I have ever said "Black Power." You done yet?

[chasteh 0]

>And maybe you'll even find some

Yea huh.

>Never listened to him - but you must be a real fan, to know whether he's 'cold, dry and informational' or not.

As I have told Rush's biggest fan, RushMC, I have listened to Rush quite a bit in the past. Why? Because it is the only crap my AM receiver in the freight dog of an airplane I was flying at that point could pick up, and it kept me awake.

"Well why did it keep you awake, Chasteh?"

It kept me awake because he uses shock tactics and political incorrectness in place of real information. Do you want a real source of information? Find something that won't keep you awake, like NPR or PBS. You will be so much more informed that none of your slack-jawed friends will want to hang out anymore.

[StreetScooby 5]

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with the exception that Jesse and Al make their living solely from racism.

+1

We are all engines of karma

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Alright, I have a problem with this one. The reason it bothers me is I have had a similar experience. A couple of years ago I agreed to help a friend move into her new house that she and some friends were renting. Unfortunately, we were the first to arrive and my friend did not have her own key so I climbed up on the roof and found an unlocked window. Naturally the cops showed up shortly thereafter because a neighbor saw me do this. The first thing the cop did is ask me what we were doing and, with his hand on his gun, demanded to see some identification. Did I ever at any point raise my voice or get accusatory at any point? Of course not! If you have ever seen an episode of Cops you know that it is not the polite people who get tasered, it is the people who think they can talk/yell their way out of an arrest. In the end we were able to show the officer with a copy of the lease and show that we were there to move things in and not out so the officer told us to have a nice day. Then do you want to know the really crazy thing? My friend actually thanked the officer and told him it made her feel better that her neighbors were looking out for her house. Do a Google image search on “Gates Yelling” and tell me what you see. Does it look like he took the polite or the accusatory route?

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FUCK!!!!


I must have missed "Think for yourself day" while I was at Oshkosh.

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Hmmm. This is interestesting.

The author asked what it is about health care that brings on racism. It's an interesting thought for a couple of reasons:

(1) It assumes that racism was dead before health care (which brought it on); and
(2) It assumes that health care reform is being opposed for racist reasons.

I find it interesting because some people actually believe it. Or, they WANT people to actually believe it.

This is the lefty version of the Birthers.

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Hillary Clinton ?

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Peggy Noonan also believes Clinton played the race card in her USA Today interview. "If John McCain said, ‘I got the white vote, baby!’ his candidacy would be over. And rising in highest indignation against him would be the old Democratic Party. To play the race card as Mrs. Clinton has, to highlight and encourage a sense that we are crudely divided as a nation, to make your argument a brute and cynical ‘the black guy can't win but the white girl can’ is -- well, so vulgar, so cynical, so cold, that once again a Clinton is making us turn off the television in case the children walk by.”

Or Bill Clinton?
The Bill Clinton race-baiting during the campaign that
grew to such a point that the Dem party felt he was
damaging Hillary's campaign.
North Carolina, Mississippi...

Of course, these are just the thoughts of the Dem party leadership...

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Are you the third kallend ID on this site?

No, not the inflatable one......

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Neat. So now "we can help you" turns into "you can't make it without our help."

What's that? An example of a rhetorical fallacy used to paint an entire political party with a false slogan? Gold star for you!

Look! It's the black republican guy! Hell, now we can tell other people we really do care about ethnic minorities, and have real evidence to prove it! Hooray!

Dude, this is what the Dems have been doing for years!!! Have you been paying attention?

No, dont answer. I already know the answer

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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Yep. How boring. Just like all the factual sources of information out there.

Cold, dry, and informational. They should be more like Rush Limbaugh.

You really got a hard on for those who are succesful dont you!

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[chasteh 0]

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You were first!

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Neat. So now "we can help you" turns into "you can't make it without our help."

Um, yes. Can they do it themselves? Then they don't need your help and it should thus be provided to those who need it.

Also, there is an egalistarian aspect to "let me help you." As a businessman, I know that I do it because I DO believe that I can do certain things better than they can. It's also why I hired a client to do a complete vehicle maintenance last week. He could help me. For a price.


[Reply]What's that? An example of a rhetorical fallacy used to paint an entire political party with a false slogan?

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It kept me awake because he uses shock tactics and political incorrectness in place of real information. Do you want a real source of information? Find something that won't keep you awake, like NPR or PBS. You will be so much more informed that none of your slack-jawed friends will want to hang out anymore.

You obviously missed the part where I said I've never listened to him.

What was that bit about a 'rhetorical fallacy used to paint an entire political party", again? Besides hypocrisy, that is...

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Find something that won't keep you awake, like NPR or PBS

better than ambien.

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Im not much of a political person all i now is all poilics bth rep. and dem. will lie about anything and promise everything just to get your vote and make bank. do some take it seriously im sure back before the 70's yes but not now its just a job to them. thats why i say.....

VOTE FOR ME IN 2020

[DanG 1]

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Are you the third kallend ID on this site?

No, not the inflatable one......

Your stalking is getting creepy.

- Dan G

[mnealtx 0]

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Are you the third kallend ID on this site?

No, not the inflatable one......

Your stalking is getting creepy.

How about kallend and chasteh stalking *him*? Is that getting creepy too, or is that reserved for people with different opinions than yours?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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