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QuoteFor the latter, it was 100% caused by those who studied financial and economic topics and were just good enough at it to bakrupt themselves.
I would say that greed, deregulation, and dishonest executives played a MUCH larger role.
QuoteNo. Stick to what you know.
LOL. You really don't understand what actuarial science is about, do you. This is far more of an actuarial topic than a topic for doctors and lawyers.
QuoteKnock off the flippancy. You know exactly what she meant. If not, take a class in Conversation.
There was nothing flippant about my reply. Knock off the arrogance.
[Reply]Why not?
Because, contrary to Libertarian belief, it is possible to hold liberal economic views and still believe in personal responsibility. Heck, my belief in personal responsibility is why I hold such liberal economic views.
QuoteOthers are neither responsible for themselves nor others.
And there's the fallacy upon which your argument is built.
[Reply]Private industry can't do shit.
They won't do shit, anyway.
QuoteSo many think that they can do it better. Instead of starting their own company ~and prove themselves wrong and lose their money ~ they get the government to do it.
You seem to have failed to consider that healthcare the healthcare industry is failing because of the private for-profit players.
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QuoteSo because I went to school (at my own expense) and got a good education, worked hard, lived within my means without getting into debt and made some sound safe investments I should give some of that to YOU......NOT!!!!
I said nothing about giving anything to me.
QuoteFor the record, I do give back to society every day that I go to work. As a nurse I use the education that I paid for to take care of the sick and injured (society). When I am not at work I give back to society too. Every time I go to the store for food or anything else I am helping those who work there keep their jobs (society). Same for when I get gas, pay for my phone, electric etc.
And when you pay your taxes, which was my point.
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I corrected it.....YOU or anyone else in society.QuoteI said nothing about giving anything to me.
And why should I have to pay higher taxes just because I achieved what I have? I don't have everything that I want in life but I have everything that I have worked for. If I want to help someone then I and I alone should be able to decide who and what that is since it is MY help!QuoteAnd when you pay your taxes, which was my point.
QuoteI'm not getting any of your paycheck now, and I don't expect to get any of your paycheck later. Thanks for offering, though.
You want tax payer health care don't you? How much of my check do you need to make that happen?
If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!
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There is no reason to believe the outcome would be any different than the current comparison between Medicare and private insurance companies, in which Medicare operates more efficiently.
No reason, other than you have no numbers and no analysis. Saying tax increases will be offset by savings in healthcare is quite a claim. Not even the people pushing the bill are saying that. If you want to cite it in an argument then come up with something other than "well there's no reason to think otherwise."
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Perhaps you should take the time to research exactly what a non-profit organization is.
You said non-profit means not for the profit of shareholders. Is that true or not?
QuoteQuoteBy what measure?
To start, the Dow has just finished it's best two week improvement since 2000.
Well hot damn! That was worth $800,000,000,000 of taxpayer money, wasn't it!! Nevermind the unemployment rate...
QuoteReally? Right wing pundits. Hmm.. didn't realize he was working for Fox now.
You clearly didn't read the article. There is no mention of a magical overnight recovery, as you claim.
Fist off, I didn't say they promised a magical recovery. I said that's how it was sold. 'Doom and gloom if this doesn't pass before you read it!'
He said: "The time for talk is over, the time for action is now." ....."This recession might linger for years. Our economy will lose 5 million more jobs. Unemployment will approach double digits. Our nation will sink deeper into a crisis that, at some point, we may not be able to reverse," Obama wrote in the newspaper piece.
THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING The only way we'll survive is with my stimulus!!
Do you really not understand the difference between borrowing and spending money on unnecessary wars and borrowing and investing money on national infrastructure?***
Do you really not understand that spending money we don't have is the same as spending money we don't have? What the fuck difference does it make where it goes? I've said over and over "There was a war" is :
A. Not a valid excuse for flushing trillions down the drain
B. Does absolutely nothing for promoting a valid solution to funding universal healthcare.
Supporters of universal healthcare can't even come up with a viable way to fund the system, much less put together a plan for implementation. I get so tired of hearing shit like "well people pay sales tax" and "there's a war in Iraq." So the fuck what? Come up with some semblance of a plan that addresses funding. Then we'll move on to other small issues like implementing and managing.
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Stay positive and love your life.
For the record, I do give back to society every day that I go to work. As a nurse I use the education that I paid for to take care of the sick and injured (society). When I am not at work I give back to society too. Every time I go to the store for food or anything else I am helping those who work there keep their jobs (society). Same for when I get gas, pay for my phone, electric etc.
I have to tell you, this entitlement generation that you live in is pathetic and will bring this country to its knees.
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