I hate to agree with her...

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>So it's NOT okay to call her 14-year-old daughter a slut.
>But it IS okay to call the 18-year-old daughter a slut?

He did not call her a slut.

It is OK to make jokes about 18 year olds having sex. It is not OK to make jokes about 14 year olds having sex. They're not the same thing.

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>some how I just KNEW Hilary was an exception ...

She became an exception as soon as she ran for office. Saying you can't criticize her is like saying you can't criticize Bill Clinton because he's Hillary's family.

they were on her ass LONG before she ran for any office, they were on her ass before Bill even got elected... they were denigrating Chelsea from day 1 (I listen to 'talk' radio all the time, especially when I need my feeling that radio blowhards are know nothing media whores confirmed)

so take your 'Hilary is an exception' argument and shove it...
if anyone is an exception, they are ALL an exception ...

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>some how I just KNEW Hilary was an exception ...

She became an exception as soon as she ran for office. Saying you can't criticize her is like saying you can't criticize Bill Clinton because he's Hillary's family.

they were on her ass LONG before she ran for any office, they were on her ass before Bill even got elected... they were denigrating Chelsea from day 1 (I listen to 'talk' radio all the time, especially when I need my feeling that radio blowhards are know nothing media whores confirmed)

so take your 'Hilary is an exception' argument and shove it...
if anyone is an exception, they are ALL an exception ...

Hillary put herself up for public criticism when she and Bill proclaimed themselves as a 2-for-1 package deal while campaigning for the presidency the first time.
I don't recall ever hearing or reading anyone ragging on Chelsea to the extent the Palin girls have been. One of the few things Bill & Hill did right was to keep Chelsea out of the spotlight.

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Hillary put herself up for public criticism when she and Bill proclaimed themselves as a 2-for-1 package deal while campaigning for the presidency the first time.
I don't recall ever hearing or reading anyone ragging on Chelsea to the extent the Palin girls have been. One of the few things Bill & Hill did right was to keep Chelsea out of the spotlight.

And Palin put her family front and center during the campaign, including being the one to pre-emptively break the story of her then-minor daughter's unwed pregnancy. She certainly knew (or should have known) it would set off a shitstorm of scathingly uncomfortable public scrutiny of her daughter, but she put her personal ambition first, selling her own daughter's dignity for a few silver talents of fame. That was a selfish betrayal by Sarah Palin.

Hillary was a worldly, highly-educated 40-something adult who was plenty capable of making an intelligent judgment about her life. Poor 17 year-old Bristol was little more than a helpless passenger on a rollercoaster.

Although Bristol has plenty of standing to bitch about the off-color jokes, she should do so to the real cause of them: her mom. In all the Letterman dust-up, do we hear Sarah Palin publicly admit: "I really regret having put my daughter in this public position" ? Not very likely. Sarah is a selfish pig, and she and Todd should just STFU.

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And Palin put her family front and center during the campaign, including being the one to pre-emptively break the story of her then-minor daughter's unwed pregnancy.

That, plus Bristol being 18, is why I think it would have been ok if she had been the brunt of Letterman's jokes.
But she wasn't. It was 14 year old willow who was at the ball game with Sarah, not Bristol. Whether Letterman thought it was Bristol doesn't matter. He should have checked. If the asshole had any integrity and sense of decency he would apologize to Willow and Sarah, and A-Rod, and until he does I will not watch his show.

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>some how I just KNEW Hilary was an exception ...

She became an exception as soon as she ran for office. Saying you can't criticize her is like saying you can't criticize Bill Clinton because he's Hillary's family.

they were on her ass LONG before she ran for any office, they were on her ass before Bill even got elected... they were denigrating Chelsea from day 1 (I listen to 'talk' radio all the time, especially when I need my feeling that radio blowhards are know nothing media whores confirmed)

so take your 'Hilary is an exception' argument and shove it...
if anyone is an exception, they are ALL an exception ...

Hillary put herself up for public criticism when she and Bill proclaimed themselves as a 2-for-1 package deal while campaigning for the presidency the first time.
I don't recall ever hearing or reading anyone ragging on Chelsea to the extent the Palin girls have been. One of the few things Bill & Hill did right was to keep Chelsea out of the spotlight.

You weren't paying attention. Chelsea got a lot of very negative press about her looks. So did Amy Carter.

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Chelsea got a lot of very negative press about her looks. So did Amy Carter.

Which was lame. So is this.

I don't care if both sides are doing it. It's still lame.

-- Tom Aiello

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Palin put her .....then-minor daughter's unwed pregnancy.......uncomfortable public scrutiny ........, selling her own daughter's dignity for a few silver talents of fame. That was a selfish betrayal by Sarah Palin.

Clearly, the dems would NEVER have found out about it on their own and played it for all it was worth....

(or the press......)

Odd point - it seemed to be disclosure and damage control more than anything. I doubt there was any spin on it that would have resulted in MORE votes vs the kid never getting pregnant in the first place.

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Spin it as you wish. I stand by my point.

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And Palin put her family front and center during the campaign, including being the one to pre-emptively break the story of her then-minor daughter's unwed pregnancy. She certainly knew (or should have known) it would set off a shitstorm of scathingly uncomfortable public scrutiny of her daughter, but she put her personal ambition first, selling her own daughter's dignity for a few silver talents of fame. That was a selfish betrayal by Sarah Palin.

Except for that whole "inconvenient truth" that it was in answer to several days of accusations by DailyKos that Trig was actually Bristol's son and not Sarah's.

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Although Bristol has plenty of standing to bitch about the off-color jokes, she should do so to the real cause of them: her mom. In all the Letterman dust-up, do we hear Sarah Palin publicly admit: "I really regret having put my daughter in this public position" ? Not very likely. Sarah is a selfish pig, and she and Todd should just STFU.

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"The liberal blogosphere spent the last 48 hours attacking Governor Palin, suggesting her child was not her own," Hazelbaker said. "We felt that it was important for us to not only protect Governor Palin but set the record straight about these lies."

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Spin it as you wish. I stand by my point.

fine, my take on it is 'spin' while yours is just your 'point' (all I did was disagree and offer an alternative)

Speaking of presidential candidates...

Who's the lawyer on the left that played on his wife's sickness so much? Kennedy looking guy...the lawyer...?

Doesn't matter, I'm sure his motivations were absolutely perfectly non-political due to the (D) next to his name. It's not like he'd make campaign hay out of his wife's sickness and then cheat on her or anything.

crap, what is his name?

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crap, what is his name?

Silky Pony?

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I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Spin it as you wish. I stand by my point.

What point is that? That it is ok for Letterman to make sick disgusting jokes about a 14 year old girl just because her 18 year old sister was put in the public eye for her mothers benefit?

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What point is that?

See Post #54, the substance of which is incorporated and reasserted herein as though fully set forth at length.

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What point is that?

See Post #54, the substance of which is incorporated and reasserted herein as though fully set forth at length.

Then see post #60, which shows that counsel was talking out of his ass.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

[Andy9o8 2]

I guess it's finally time to tell you this: Your stalking is creepy.

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Who's the lawyer on the left that played on his wife's sickness so much?

Wasn't he the guy who made millions suing doctors over birth complications, which resulted in the use of a bunch of additional equipment which showed zero actual improvement in outcomes, but made each and every birth in the US cost more than a thousand dollars extra?

-- Tom Aiello

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I guess it's finally time to tell you this: Your stalking is creepy.

Don't flatter yourself.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
POPS 9708 , SCR 14706

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Creepy.

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What point is that?

See Post #54, the substance of which is incorporated and reasserted herein as though fully set forth at length.

Hmmm...I still come up with the same interpretation I did the first couple times I read it.
Must be what you meant.

HAMMER:
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kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
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Speaking of presidential candidates...

Who's the lawyer on the left that played on his wife's sickness so much? Kennedy looking guy...the lawyer...?

Doesn't matter, I'm sure his motivations were absolutely perfectly non-political due to the (D) next to his name. It's not like he'd make campaign hay out of his wife's sickness and then cheat on her or anything.

crap, what is his name?

Gingrich? I wouldn't necessarily call him "Kennedy looking". Wait, did you mean "played" or "preyed"?

By the way, after taking a few days off from this thread I have to say that it hasn't risen above mere partisan hackery in the very slightest. Good job folks. Glad I could contribute.
Bush sucks!