Belgian_Draft 0 #1 June 12, 2009 But Sarah Palin is 100% right. David Letterman owes women everywhere a BIG apology over his remarks. "During his opening monologue on CBS’ “Late Night” Monday, Letterman poked fun at Palin’s visit with her family to a New York Yankees game this past weekend. “There was one awkward moment during the seventh inning stretch,” Letterman said. “Her daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez.”" www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31275358/ns/today_people/ He and his staff should have made sure which daughter Palin had with her at the Yankees game. If it had been her 18 year old, then there is no problem. But it was her 14 year old daughter who Palin had with her and that makes his remark very sick.HAMMER: Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the object we are trying to hit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 June 12, 2009 She's right. I can't see Letterman not apologizing, in this instance. If I had to guess, I'd say that he wasn't aware which daughter was there, and is greatly regretting his gaffe.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #3 June 12, 2009 I agree with you but what difference does it make if it was her 18 year old daughter? So, she got 'knocked up' as he put it. He 'knocked up' his current wife and mother of his son for several years. The hypocrisy is stunning. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #4 June 12, 2009 QuoteI agree with you but what difference does it make if it was her 18 year old daughter? One need not commit child molestation to "knock up" and 18 year old. Which means that Letterman actually owes Rodriguez an even bigger apology, because he called him a child molester on national television.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #5 June 12, 2009 Even NOW has denounced his so called jokes. Imagine that. NOW coming to the defense of Gov. Palin and her daughter. Has the axis of the earth shifted a little? _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #6 June 12, 2009 QuoteHe and his staff should have made sure which daughter Palin had with her at the Yankees game. If it had been her 18 year old, then there is no problem. But it was her 14 year old daughter who Palin had with her and that makes his remark very sick. Even if it had been the 18-year-old with her, Letterman is basically calling her a "slut". He also said that Palin looked like a "slutty flight attendant." There is no parent in America he wouldn't be greatly offended by someone making such a "joke" about their daughter, their wife, or their mother. Letterman owes a big apology to everyone in America. The best he could muster was this:"I'm telling you, I recognize that these are ugly. These are actually ugly. These are borderline...but again, in an act of desperation to get cheap laughs, which is what I've been doing for the last 30 years. These are not jokes made about her 14-year-old daughter. I would never, never make jokes about raping or having sex of any description with a 14-year-old girl." Letterman insisted the jokes were intended to be about Bristol, who is 18-years-old. "Am I guilty of poor taste? Yes. Did I suggest that it was OK for her 14-year-old daughter to be having promiscuous sex? No."Attacking a politician is one thing, but attacking their children should be off-limits. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #7 June 12, 2009 QuoteAttacking a politician is one thing, but attacking their children should be off-limits. Agreed. Having said that ... Quote He also said that Palin looked like a "slutty flight attendant." Well, she does. And besides, what guy doesn't have "slutty flight attendant" fantasies? I certainly do. And so do you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #8 June 12, 2009 QuoteAttacking a politician is one thing, but attacking their children should be off-limits. I agree. And I said the same thing when other,....ummm "entertainers" have done as much. Woof Woof. But "Letterman owes an apology to everyone in America"? Don't you guys think that's a bit of an over reaction? Comedians are going to tell tasteless jokes and I'm willing to bet that most people in this forum laugh their asses off at most of them. He stepped over the line in a misstep and apologized. To brand him as the shame of a nation is overkill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #9 June 12, 2009 >But "Letterman owes an apology to everyone in America"? Don't you >guys think that's a bit of an over reaction? Well, certainly to his audience, as they were the ones who were subjected to the joke, and the Palins, who were the butt of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #10 June 12, 2009 Quote >But "Letterman owes an apology to everyone in America"? Don't you >guys think that's a bit of an over reaction? Well, certainly to his audience, as they were the ones who were subjected to the joke, and the Palins, who were the butt of it. Sounds reasonable. Sounds like he agreed as well. But now it looks like some think Obama needs to apologize for Letterman's gaff.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGFGrzWedyA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #11 June 12, 2009 QuoteAttacking a politician is one thing, but attacking their children should be off-limits. I don't think anyone really cares about Bristol. Talking about her un-wed pregnancy is an easy way to confront one Republican value that doesn't work. Quote Reporter: "Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?" Sarah Palin: "Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support." Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #12 June 12, 2009 I don't care which daughter it was, it is not ok to go after pols families. The shit her older daughter got during the campaign was unforgivable. Going after GWBs daughters was unnacceptable, going after the family of any public official should be off limits. The only excaption is to those who deliberately make themselves part of the decision making process (Hillary Clinton during WJC's tenure). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
downwardspiral 0 #13 June 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteAttacking a politician is one thing, but attacking their children should be off-limits. I don't think anyone really cares about Bristol. Talking about her un-wed pregnancy is an easy way to confront one Republican value that doesn't work. Quote Reporter: "Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?" Sarah Palin: "Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support." If you look into what "explicit sex education" entails you'll realize she answered a loaded question in the best possible way.www.FourWheelerHB.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #14 June 12, 2009 >But now it looks like some think Obama needs to apologize for Letterman's gaff. Of course; Obama is responsible for every thing that goes wrong in the US, from shootings to bad jokes. Didn't you get the memo? That's not CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN! (that's a required postscript BTW.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustySCSA69 0 #15 June 12, 2009 QuoteI don't care which daughter it was, it is not ok to go after pols families. The shit her older daughter got during the campaign was unforgivable. Going after GWBs daughters was unnacceptable, going after the family of any public official should be off limits. The only excaption is to those who deliberately make themselves part of the decision making process (Hillary Clinton during WJC's tenure). some how I just KNEW Hilary was an exception ... now don't forget to add Chelsea to that exception... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,110 #16 June 12, 2009 >some how I just KNEW Hilary was an exception ... She became an exception as soon as she ran for office. Saying you can't criticize her is like saying you can't criticize Bill Clinton because he's Hillary's family. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #17 June 12, 2009 Quote>But "Letterman owes an apology to everyone in America"? Don't you >guys think that's a bit of an over reaction? Well, certainly to his audience, as they were the ones who were subjected to the joke, and the Palins, who were the butt of it. What about the guy he essentially called a child molester on national television?-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #18 June 12, 2009 Quote>some how I just KNEW Hilary was an exception ... She became an exception as soon as she ran for office. Saying you can't criticize her is like saying you can't criticize Bill Clinton because he's Hillary's family. John McCain's daughter is another good example. Once you enter the political discourse in your own right, you're fair game.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #19 June 12, 2009 QuoteQuoteAttacking a politician is one thing, but attacking their children should be off-limits. The Palins trotted their pregnant, un-wed teenage daughter and her hapless boyfriend out on the campaign trail as an example of family values. Then sent her on an abstinence crusade! They put her in the public eye. They made her publicity about underage sex. I didn't like Letterman's jokes. But I think has been blown way out of proportion and is yet another tool to keep the Palins in the news. And Todd Palin's assertion that the joke was about rape is ridiculous. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites carmenc 0 #20 June 12, 2009 QuoteI don't care which daughter it was, it is not ok to go after pols families. The shit her older daughter got during the campaign was unforgivable. Going after GWBs daughters was unnacceptable, going after the family of any public official should be off limits. The only excaption is to those who deliberately make themselves part of the decision making process (Hillary Clinton during WJC's tenure). In that case, pols shouldn't put their families in the spotlight when it suits their campaign aspirations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #21 June 12, 2009 QuoteQuote>But "Letterman owes an apology to everyone in America"? Don't you >guys think that's a bit of an over reaction? Well, certainly to his audience, as they were the ones who were subjected to the joke, and the Palins, who were the butt of it. What about the guy he essentially called a child molester on national television? (a) I think Letterman actually meant Bristol, the older kid, mistakenly presuming that she was the kid traveling with her mom, not the 14 year old kid. (b) In any event, when you're super-rich enough, you're so bullet-proof that you don't need no stinkin' apologies for nuthin'. I think Rodriguez is rich enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Andy9o8 2 #22 June 12, 2009 QuoteI think has been blown way out of proportion and is yet another tool to keep the Palins in the news. Absolutely. Palin is using the same technique as that used by Limbaugh, Coulter, even Cheney: when the very currency of your career is publicity, there's no such thing as "bad publicity." (Note: Cheney has just published a memoir book, which obviously needs publicity to generate sales.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites freeflybella 0 #23 June 12, 2009 QuoteDavid Letterman owes women everywhere a BIG apology I also think the "feminist" spin on this issue is a load of crap. I'm 1000 times more insulted that Sarah Palin was nominated - plucked from obscurity to capture the Hilary voters - than I am about a joke he made regarding her 'look'. She was put out there because she is a woman. Not at all for her qualifications/legitimacy as a VP nominee. And we were expected to FALL FOR THAT. FAR more insulting than a bad joke. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #24 June 12, 2009 Quote...Sarah Palin was...plucked from obscurity... Without looking at your profile, I'm going to guess you live on one of the coasts, probably in a major city. Do you think that only people from those types of areas are high profile enough to run for national office? Sarah Palin was far from obscure to voters in Alaska. In fact, people in lots of other non-Alaska places had heard of her too. It's just that those places are generally regarded as "obscure" or "fly over country" as well. The idea that one must hail from a large, "important," wealthy, and (statistically, unless we're talking about Texas) left-leaning state to be qualified for national office is both erroneous and fantastically arrogant.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites JohnRich 4 #25 June 12, 2009 QuoteQuote He also said that Palin looked like a "slutty flight attendant." Well, she does. And besides, what guy doesn't have "slutty flight attendant" fantasies? I certainly do. And so do you. It's also an insult to flight attendant's. I don't personally lust after the slutty ones. I don't find sluttery (is that a word?) to be attractive. I'm perfectly happy to let others have those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 Next Page 1 of 3 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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carmenc 0 #20 June 12, 2009 QuoteI don't care which daughter it was, it is not ok to go after pols families. The shit her older daughter got during the campaign was unforgivable. Going after GWBs daughters was unnacceptable, going after the family of any public official should be off limits. The only excaption is to those who deliberately make themselves part of the decision making process (Hillary Clinton during WJC's tenure). In that case, pols shouldn't put their families in the spotlight when it suits their campaign aspirations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #21 June 12, 2009 QuoteQuote>But "Letterman owes an apology to everyone in America"? Don't you >guys think that's a bit of an over reaction? Well, certainly to his audience, as they were the ones who were subjected to the joke, and the Palins, who were the butt of it. What about the guy he essentially called a child molester on national television? (a) I think Letterman actually meant Bristol, the older kid, mistakenly presuming that she was the kid traveling with her mom, not the 14 year old kid. (b) In any event, when you're super-rich enough, you're so bullet-proof that you don't need no stinkin' apologies for nuthin'. I think Rodriguez is rich enough. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #22 June 12, 2009 QuoteI think has been blown way out of proportion and is yet another tool to keep the Palins in the news. Absolutely. Palin is using the same technique as that used by Limbaugh, Coulter, even Cheney: when the very currency of your career is publicity, there's no such thing as "bad publicity." (Note: Cheney has just published a memoir book, which obviously needs publicity to generate sales.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freeflybella 0 #23 June 12, 2009 QuoteDavid Letterman owes women everywhere a BIG apology I also think the "feminist" spin on this issue is a load of crap. I'm 1000 times more insulted that Sarah Palin was nominated - plucked from obscurity to capture the Hilary voters - than I am about a joke he made regarding her 'look'. She was put out there because she is a woman. Not at all for her qualifications/legitimacy as a VP nominee. And we were expected to FALL FOR THAT. FAR more insulting than a bad joke. Action expresses priority. - Mahatma Ghandi Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #24 June 12, 2009 Quote...Sarah Palin was...plucked from obscurity... Without looking at your profile, I'm going to guess you live on one of the coasts, probably in a major city. Do you think that only people from those types of areas are high profile enough to run for national office? Sarah Palin was far from obscure to voters in Alaska. In fact, people in lots of other non-Alaska places had heard of her too. It's just that those places are generally regarded as "obscure" or "fly over country" as well. The idea that one must hail from a large, "important," wealthy, and (statistically, unless we're talking about Texas) left-leaning state to be qualified for national office is both erroneous and fantastically arrogant.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #25 June 12, 2009 QuoteQuote He also said that Palin looked like a "slutty flight attendant." Well, she does. And besides, what guy doesn't have "slutty flight attendant" fantasies? I certainly do. And so do you. It's also an insult to flight attendant's. I don't personally lust after the slutty ones. I don't find sluttery (is that a word?) to be attractive. I'm perfectly happy to let others have those. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
