Sotomayor is a racist

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist. Of course I realize that racism by those that are not Caucasian is allowed without serious objection nowadays, but it is what it is. I certainly don't want a racist that wants to be a super-legislator/"making policy" from the highest court. It is bad enough that Bush 41 nominated her to the lower court.

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist.

You've obviously done some quick research.

Care to show it to us?

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I wouldn't consider her racist. I would consider her activist. I would also consider her brilliant. Brilliant enough to justify within herself that it's okay to make decisions based upon notions of socioeconomic class.

I do not believe that she is wrong when she says that courts announce policy. Activist courts do all the time. The judiciary should reiterate policy and not make it.

On another note - excellent power play by the President. He chose a candidate who does have the sort of divisive statements that show that "bipartisanship" and coalition ain't really important.

A nice move announcing between sessions, too, when all of Congress is away from D.C. The opposition is scattered. Obama is not to be underestimated.

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>Seems pretty clear to me.

I like how fast the attacks began! One of my favorites:

"The appointment of Maria Sotomayor for the Supreme Court is the clearest indication yet that President Obama's campaign promises to be a centrist and think in a bipartisan way were mere rhetoric. Sotomayor comes from the far left . . ." (Huckabee)

I can just see his staff briefing him - "Attack her! NOW! We'll look up her positions, her background and her name later."

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist.

You've obviously done some quick research. Care to show it to us?

I think he's referring to this quote she made in a speech at a University:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

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I would also consider her brilliant. Brilliant enough to justify within herself that it's okay to make decisions based upon notions of socioeconomic class.

And therein lies a problem. Decisions should not be made based upon the socioeconomic classes of the plaintiffs or defendants. They should be made based upon the law.

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist.

You've obviously done some quick research. Care to show it to us?

I think he's referring to this quote she made in a speech at a University:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I don't think so, he is probably referring to what he heard lush rimjob say, apparently he called her a racist and if he said it it must be true.

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I can just see his staff briefing him - "Attack her! NOW! We'll look up her positions, her background and her name later."

she's been on the short list for plenty long enough that her background and positions, as well as the background and positions of other people that didn't get the nomination have been studied. its not like anyone was blindsided with this.

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist.

You've obviously done some quick research. Care to show it to us?

I think he's referring to this quote she made in a speech at a University:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I don't think so, he is probably referring to what he heard lush rimjob say, apparently he called her a racist and if he said it it must be true.

i didn't hear limbaugh's assesment of her. i think she's a racist based on her own words. if a white male celebrity, politician, or supreme court nominee had said he thought a white man could more often than not reach a better conclusion than a woman, he would have a shit storm rained down on him the likes of which would make don imus's head spin. her comment was overtly racist and that should disqualify her, but it won't.

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Nelson Mandela was a racist too, but it didn't stop him from being a great statesman.

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Judge Sotomayor has given several speeches about the importance of diversity. But her 2001 remarks at Berkeley, which were published by the Berkeley La Raza Law Journal, went further, asserting that judges’ identities will affect legal outcomes.

“Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences,” she said, for jurists who are women and nonwhite, “our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging.”

Her remarks came in the context of reflecting her own life experiences as a Hispanic female judge and on how the increasing diversity on the federal bench “will have an effect on the development of the law and on judging.”

In making her argument, Judge Sotomayor sounded many cautionary notes. She said there was no uniform perspective that all women or members of a minority group have, and emphasized that she was not talking about any individual case.

She also noted that the Supreme Court was uniformly white and male when it delivered historic rulings against racial and sexual discrimination. And she said she tried to question her own “opinions, sympathies and prejudices,” and aspired to impartiality.

Still, Judge Sotomayor questioned whether achieving impartiality “is possible in all, or even, in most, cases.” She added, “And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist.

You've obviously done some quick research. Care to show it to us?

I think he's referring to this quote she made in a speech at a University:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I don't think so, he is probably referring to what he heard lush rimjob say, apparently he called her a racist and if he said it it must be true.

Nope, you are completely wrong. I haven't heard what Rush has to say about her yet. I did hear and see extended excerpts of her. If a white conservative had made similar statements, there would be complete outrage. But of course her brand of racism is considered acceptable by many. She also admitted that judges make policy, and admitted that she doesn't really want to admit it/shouldn't admit it! A very revealing admission, she did in fact know better, but she was likely in the company of like-minded liberals, and her guard was down, revealing her true nature.

She is a racist. Those that defend that flavor of racism should have the guts to admit it. I think it likely that some of you reading this do in fact support it.

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Seems pretty clear to me. Besides being a judicial activist, she is a racist.

You've obviously done some quick research. Care to show it to us?

I think he's referring to this quote she made in a speech at a University:

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I don't think so, he is probably referring to what he heard lush rimjob say, apparently he called her a racist and if he said it it must be true.

Nope, you are completely wrong. I haven't heard what Rush has to say about her yet. I did hear and see extended excerpts of her. If a white conservative had made similar statements, there would be complete outrage. But of course her brand of racism is considered acceptable by many. She also admitted that judges make policy, and admitted that she doesn't really want to admit it/shouldn't admit it! A very revealing admission, she did in fact know better, but she was likely in the company of like-minded liberals, and her guard was down, revealing her true nature.

She is a racist. Those that defend that flavor of racism should have the guts to admit it. I think it likely that some of you reading this do in fact support it.

is she a sexist as well

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is she a sexist as well

Given her comment about a Hispanic woman making a better legal decision than a white man, possibly.

- but not in the same sense as the UK prison system.

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She also noted that the Supreme Court was uniformly white and male when it delivered historic rulings against racial and sexual discrimination. And she said she tried to question her own “opinions, sympathies and prejudices,” and aspired to impartiality.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/15/us/15judge.html

There is an old saying about not judging a person until you've walked a mile in their shoes.

I actually do think it's right to bring up the subject of the racial composition of the court during the times they've made rulings on racial issues. I don't think that's racist or sexist at all; it's just a reasonable observation on the conditions at the time.

Further, she does say she "aspired to impartiality." I also think that's fairly reasonable. She recognizes that she may have a slight bias and is making a conscious effort to over come it.

What the fuck else could she say?

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Further, she does say she "aspired to impartiality." I also think that's fairly reasonable. She recognizes that she may have a slight bias and is making a conscious effort to over come it.

What the fuck else could she say?

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

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Further, she does say she "aspired to impartiality." I also think that's fairly reasonable. She recognizes that she may have a slight bias and is making a conscious effort to over come it.

What the fuck else could she say?

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I'd love to see that in context.

Do you have it or are you simply not interested?

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Further, she does say she "aspired to impartiality." I also think that's fairly reasonable. She recognizes that she may have a slight bias and is making a conscious effort to over come it.

What the fuck else could she say?

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I'd love to see that in context.

Do you have it or are you simply not interested?

In the link in the post you replied to. Google has a lot of references to it as well.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfC99LrrM2Q This bothers me worse.

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Further, she does say she "aspired to impartiality." I also think that's fairly reasonable. She recognizes that she may have a slight bias and is making a conscious effort to over come it.

What the fuck else could she say?

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I'd love to see that in context.

Do you have it or are you simply not interested?

In the link in the post you replied to. Google has a lot of references to it as well.

Right . . . but have YOU read the speech in context?

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Further, she does say she "aspired to impartiality." I also think that's fairly reasonable. She recognizes that she may have a slight bias and is making a conscious effort to over come it.

What the fuck else could she say?

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life.”

I'd love to see that in context.

Do you have it or are you simply not interested?

In the link in the post you replied to. Google has a lot of references to it as well.

Right . . . but have YOU read the speech in context?

Yea, I have - have YOU caught up with the rest of the class, now, since you evidently HADN'T read it based on your "in context" post, above?

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>Given her comment about a Hispanic woman making a better legal decision
>than a white man, possibly.

Heck, she might almost be as much of a sexist as Ronald Reagan was, who announced that he'd be appointing a woman to the Supreme Court even if equally qualified men were available.

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There is an old saying about not judging a person until you've walked a mile in their shoes.

I added the emphasis. So what should a judge do? Recuse herself? She's been a judge. Now she's a Justice. She's gonna be a Supreme Court Justice.

HER FUCKING JOB IS TO JUDGE!

And note - comments about white men? Walk a mile in their shoes, then talk about it. Oh, you mean she can't be a white male? Nor can I be an Hispanic female?

Shit. I guess we'll have to use something else to judge. Oh yes. The law and the Constitution is a good place to start.

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she does say she "aspired to impartiality."

Some honesty that I don't hold against her. Nobody is totally impartial, and it's nice that she recognizes it.

However, I would hope that she is doing so from "my bias being used to make a 50/50 call" instead of going with her bias and finding a reason to overcome it.

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Yea, I have - have YOU caught up with the rest of the class, now, since you evidently HADN'T read it based on your "in context" post, above?

And all this time I thought you knew me a little bit better than that.

Did it not occur to you that when I asked to see it, that I had in fact already seen it and knew it was taken out of context?

Hell, even the ONE sentence is truncated. Why? Because to not do so would scream even louder that that it was a statement cherry picked out of context of a larger discussion about race, sex and the judicial system.

Here's the FULL sentence, "Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

Hmmm, does it sound to you like MAYBE there's something that goes in front of this? Yeah it kinda does!

If the sentence being bandied about on the right to discredit her is all people ever read, sure, wtf, they can go ahead and think she's a racist.

I'll think those people are being narrow minded and short sighted.

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There is an old saying about not judging a person until you've walked a mile in their shoes.

I added the emphasis. So what should a judge do? Recuse herself? She's been a judge. Now she's a Justice. She's gonna be a Supreme Court Justice.

HER FUCKING JOB IS TO JUDGE!

Councilor! Her job is to judge the laws, not people. I refer you to the words immediately after the one you highlighted.

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And note - comments about white men? Walk a mile in their shoes, then talk about it. Oh, you mean she can't be a white male? Nor can I be an Hispanic female?

Shit. I guess we'll have to use something else to judge. Oh yes. The law and the Constitution is a good place to start.

Ah! Well. So glad you have come around and now see it my way.

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she does say she "aspired to impartiality."

Some honesty that I don't hold against her. Nobody is totally impartial, and it's nice that she recognizes it.

However, I would hope that she is doing so from "my bias being used to make a 50/50 call" instead of going with her bias and finding a reason to overcome it.

Hey, you're handy with Lexus/Nexus (I assume). What exactly has been her history on the bench.

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