lawrocket 3 #176 June 8, 2009 QuoteQuote>how much should I pay in taxes to support this woman, her kids and those like >them? My answer - the minimum possible to keep them from dying of exposure or starvation. Beyond that, up to them. so no education for the children or healthcare? (perhaps we should put a mark, perhaps a star, on them so we can all properly identify the family) Question - again - how much should I pay in taxes to support this woman, her kids and those like them? Are you a person who complains or a person who proposes solutions? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #177 June 9, 2009 Quote Are you a person who complains or a person who proposes solutions? He's a person that reposts other's IP in its entirety. What do you think? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #178 June 9, 2009 QuoteI mean, why have someone else decide how to spend money? Part of the cost of living in and profiting from society is that we surrender a bit of our sovereignty to that society. Part of that involves paying taxes. Sometimes tax revenues are spent on things we would rather they not be spent on. So it goes. If it bothers you that much, run for office so you can change things.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #179 June 9, 2009 >Question - again - how much should I pay in taxes to support this >woman, her kids and those like them? How much should I pay in taxes to support the higways that you use to get to work (and the other highways like them throughout the country?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #180 June 9, 2009 QuoteQuoteI mean, why have someone else decide how to spend money? Part of the cost of living in and profiting from society is that we surrender a bit of our sovereignty to that society. Part of that involves paying taxes. Sometimes tax revenues are spent on things we would rather they not be spent on. So it goes. If it bothers you that much, run for office so you can change things. It's DD that disagrees with what the elected people are doing. He believes we're giving all the money to the cheating bankers, while the defenseless welfare moms are getting screwed by the system (as opposed to their deadbeat non husbands). Lawrocket is trying to get him to give a direct answer to the question of how much should be provided to her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #181 June 9, 2009 Quote How much should I pay in taxes to support the higways that you use to get to work (and the other highways like them throughout the country?) I love how people keep refusing to answer the question.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #182 June 9, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteI mean, why have someone else decide how to spend money? Part of the cost of living in and profiting from society is that we surrender a bit of our sovereignty to that society. Part of that involves paying taxes. Sometimes tax revenues are spent on things we would rather they not be spent on. So it goes. If it bothers you that much, run for office so you can change things. It's DD that disagrees with what the elected people are doing. He believes we're giving all the money to the cheating bankers, while the defenseless welfare moms are getting screwed by the system (as opposed to their deadbeat non husbands). Lawrocket is trying to get him to give a direct answer to the question of how much should be provided to her. My point wasn't really directed at anyone in particular. [lawrocket] happened to write a question with which I could use as a segue to my comment. I'm pretty sure that nearly everybody, no matter what their political ideology, can identify things on which they wish their government would stop spending money. That's not to say that every expenditure is equally justified, rather that it's not realistic to expect such a large group of people to agree on any fiscal policy without some significant compromising taking place.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #183 June 9, 2009 Oh, I know I could never get elected. I'm far too right wing on half of the issues for the left and centrists. I'm far too left wing for the right and centrists on the other half. My stump speech: "The right hates me. The left hates me more. They all can suck my dick. Now my wife hates me, so she won't." Come on, jcd - you wouldn't vote for me. It you would I'd lose respect for you. I'm an asshole but won't lie about it like a good boy. I'd be a lousy politician. "Plenty of people think I'm heartless. They can blow me. Feminists used to blow me after anti-frat rallies. I've got heart right here." "Others think I'm gonna slash the budget. I'm circumcised, so I know first hand you can take 20% off of anything. Is it gonna hurt? Yeah. Suck it up, cupcakes." "Others think I'll hurt national security because I value the 4th Amendment. They can lick my balls. I prefer to die free than live as a pussy wimp." "Still others don't like my stance on the 2nd Amendment. I double dog dare you to try to take my sidearm. Yeah, I thought so, hippie." "What sort of judges would I appoint? Those without feeling and who rely on reason. Don't like it? Bite my ass." "Me? Yeah. I support gay marriage. Don't like it? Well, go fuck yourselves and get outta the closet." "Drug legaization? Yeah. What? How can I say that? Smoke my baloney pony." "What? I can't talk like this? Drill a hole in you palms and fuck them." Then again, this is America so such gravitas may lead me to a landslide. "Oh, got a problem with me, Kim. I'll put it this way - the world thinks I'm crazier than you. My - you should see the pretty buttons I can push. You like football? Colonel Snuffy - shall we show Mr. Duc Dong how we go for two?" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #184 June 9, 2009 Oh, yes. Just because I disagree with 70% of federal spending doesn't mean I'd cut it all at once. I'd give it a few days. It doesn't mean I'd lower taxes, either. I'd probably keep them the same to pay off national debt. "Wow - a $1 trillion surplus. Hey, China. Here you go. Expect at least 50% more next year. And the year after." UNICEF? People are starving? Well, obesity seems a bigger problem. Starving? Come on - it just doesn't happen, despite what you claim. Even the homeless are resourceful and get fed. Suck my dick. By the way, I hope you paid those homeless for the interviews. My recent legislation says they are not to be disturbed without compensation. See you in court. Better pay up." My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #185 June 9, 2009 QuoteCome on, jcd - you wouldn't vote for me. It you would I'd lose respect for you. I'm an asshole but won't lie about it like a good boy. I'd be a lousy politician. Don't sell yourself short. I'd support you in the primaries for the sake of the Saturday Night Live skits during campaign season.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
georgerussia 0 #186 June 9, 2009 Quote Then again, this is America so such gravitas may lead me to a landslide. Well, this is not radical. Ty my standards it's kinda conservative.* Don't pray for me if you wanna help - just send me a check. * Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #187 June 9, 2009 Quote>Question - again - how much should I pay in taxes to support this >woman, her kids and those like them? How much should I pay in taxes to support the higways that you use to get to work (and the other highways like them throughout the country?) Nothing. Those roadways ought to be privatized, and run under a fee-for-use system, like the toll roads that many commuters in big cities prefer to use.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #188 June 9, 2009 You've got my vote. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #189 June 9, 2009 Quote "The right hates me. The left hates me more. They all can suck my dick. Now my wife hates me, so she won't." THAT right there my friend is the quote of the day!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #190 June 9, 2009 Quote>Question - again - how much should I pay in taxes to support this >woman, her kids and those like them? How much should I pay in taxes to support the higways that you use to get to work (and the other highways like them throughout the country?) Your proposal to use poor people and their children as road construction materials is cold and unfeeling. Have you been reading Ross Perot pamphlets again? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #191 June 9, 2009 Quote Quote Quote >how much should I pay in taxes to support this woman, her kids and those like >them? My answer - the minimum possible to keep them from dying of exposure or starvation. Beyond that, up to them. so no education for the children or healthcare? (perhaps we should put a mark, perhaps a star, on them so we can all properly identify the family) Question - again - how much should I pay in taxes to support this woman, her kids and those like them? Are you a person who complains or a person who proposes solutions? a national health service and a sensible minimum wage will be a good start (if you want to increase taxes then i vote for inheritance tax as the one to target)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #192 June 9, 2009 Quote a national health service and a sensible minimum wage will be a good start what would a sensible min wage be, exactly? The British one is 5.73L/hr. Roughly 9$/hr, just a tad higher than most states. Looks like it is now 7.60 in London. Though higher than the US national standard, it's hardly a living wage when the cost of living of that city is considered. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #193 June 9, 2009 Quote Quote a national health service and a sensible minimum wage will be a good start what would a sensible min wage be, exactly? The British one is 5.73L/hr. Roughly 9$/hr, just a tad higher than most states. Looks like it is now 7.60 in London. Though higher than the US national standard, it's hardly a living wage when the cost of living of that city is considered. i agree - it needs to be raised here as well to a more sensible level. the benefit of a national health service for all also has to be added into the mix.stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
millertime24 8 #194 June 9, 2009 Quote Quote Quote a national health service and a sensible minimum wage will be a good start what would a sensible min wage be, exactly? The British one is 5.73L/hr. Roughly 9$/hr, just a tad higher than most states. Looks like it is now 7.60 in London. Though higher than the US national standard, it's hardly a living wage when the cost of living of that city is considered. i agree - it needs to be raised here as well to a more sensible level. the benefit of a national health service for all also has to be added into the mix. What is a "more sensible level"? And, do you realize that healthcare is not a RIGHT? It's a service much like an auto repair shop. If you dont have insurance or the money to fix the problem then you better be damn good at fixing it yourself. Just my 2c.Muff #5048 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #195 June 9, 2009 QuoteQuestion - again - how much should I pay in taxes to support this woman, her kids and those like them? Quotea national health service and a sensible minimum wage will be a good start A fine answer to a question I did not ask. Again, the question is: How much should I pay in taxes to support this woman, her kids and those like them? As an aside, we have minimum wages. We have inheritance taxes. So also what is a "sensible" minimum wage? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #196 June 9, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote a national health service and a sensible minimum wage will be a good start what would a sensible min wage be, exactly? The British one is 5.73L/hr. Roughly 9$/hr, just a tad higher than most states. Looks like it is now 7.60 in London. Though higher than the US national standard, it's hardly a living wage when the cost of living of that city is considered. i agree - it needs to be raised here as well to a more sensible level. the benefit of a national health service for all also has to be added into the mix. What is a "more sensible level"? And, do you realize that healthcare is not a RIGHT? It's a service much like an auto repair shop. If you dont have insurance or the money to fix the problem then you better be damn good at fixing it yourself. Just my 2c. do hospitals in your country have the RIGHT to turn you away if you are ill? (and do cars have souls)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #197 June 9, 2009 No, they don't - now quit playing word games and answer the question.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #198 June 9, 2009 >i agree - it needs to be raised here as well to a more sensible level. What should that level be? To work a 40 hour week and live reasonably well in lower Manhattan it would require something on the order of $25 an hour. Should that be the new minimum? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #199 June 9, 2009 Quote>i agree - it needs to be raised here as well to a more sensible level. What should that level be? To work a 40 hour week and live reasonably well in lower Manhattan it would require something on the order of $25 an hour. Should that be the new minimum? no-one in lower manhattan works at the minimum wage?stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #200 June 9, 2009 QuoteQuote>i agree - it needs to be raised here as well to a more sensible level. What should that level be? To work a 40 hour week and live reasonably well in lower Manhattan it would require something on the order of $25 an hour. Should that be the new minimum? no-one in lower manhattan works at the minimum wage? Maybe you can explain how this minimum wage red herring is even applicable, since the lady in question (you STILL haven't shown how you know her so much better than lawrocket, btw) ISN'T working??Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
