Foreclosure Crisis Hits Poor Renters Hard: Evicted Families Have to Fight to Live Together

[lawrocket 3]

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you, personally, haven't paid for anything of hers - and your children will already be rich when they leave school

Maybe if he'd gotten a part time job they could have done it.

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Trody, a white woman in her forties, her husband and two teenage children

Okay.

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But late last year, the house got swept up in Florida's foreclosure epidemic, due to what the family believes was a predatory refinance loan.

The house has "long been a refuge." That means that the house had a lot of equity in it - equity that was liquidated. Hmmmm.....

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Trody then sought out local shelters but was told there was no room for the whole family.

"The shelters talked about separating us," Trody recalled," and I said, 'How you gonna separate my family? My family's the only support I got now. I'm already without a house. And then you want to tear away everything that is my support?'"

No. They don't want to tear it away. Unfortunately, however, they can only do what they can do. And people get mad at those offering what they can.

Also note, it's not about making sure the kids are safe and warm. No. It's about tearing HER away from HER family.

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By February 2009, a dozen family members--including Trody's older daughter and grandchildren--saw just one way to stick together: they decided to pile into their van and live there for three days, awaiting a chance to reclaim their home.

HOLY HELL! A DOZEN FREAKING PEOPLE LIVING IN NANA'S HOUSE AND THEY COULDN'T POOL THEIR RESOURCES TO KEEP IT OUT OF FORECLOSURE?

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For many families, staying intact may mean staying on the streets.

And for many, staying intact means carrying your weight and chipping in to help Nana make the mortgage payments.

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For Yolanda James's 16-year-old daughter, Mary Quaker, the threat of separation dwarfed material hardship. She struggled through living in a car, even sleeping in her school gym when her mother could not afford a motel, but she clung to what mattered.

Okay. What matters? MAkign sure you are warm and clean?

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"I just wondered," she recalled, "is she going to put us somewhere so we can be able to eat and take a shower and all that?

All right. That's what matters.

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'Just don't split us up. We'll all get through it together.'"

Ooooh Nooooo!

Perhaps that's just where I'm different. I'd camp out in a sewer if it meant my kids were clean and warm and fed. But this is the liberal "equal misery for all" feel-good thing. "If we can't all be clean and warm and fed then we'll all sleep in a sewer. At least we'll be there together."

Pass the Tylenol...

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[rushmc 23]

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you, personally, haven't paid for anything of hers - and your children will already be rich when they leave school

Maybe if he'd gotten a part time job they could have done it.

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Trody, a white woman in her forties, her husband and two teenage children

Okay.

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But late last year, the house got swept up in Florida's foreclosure epidemic, due to what the family believes was a predatory refinance loan.

The house has "long been a refuge." That means that the house had a lot of equity in it - equity that was liquidated. Hmmmm.....

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Trody then sought out local shelters but was told there was no room for the whole family.

"The shelters talked about separating us," Trody recalled," and I said, 'How you gonna separate my family? My family's the only support I got now. I'm already without a house. And then you want to tear away everything that is my support?'"

No. They don't want to tear it away. Unfortunately, however, they can only do what they can do. And people get mad at those offering what they can.

Also note, it's not about making sure the kids are safe and warm. No. It's about tearing HER away from HER family.

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By February 2009, a dozen family members--including Trody's older daughter and grandchildren--saw just one way to stick together: they decided to pile into their van and live there for three days, awaiting a chance to reclaim their home.

HOLY HELL! A DOZEN FREAKING PEOPLE LIVING IN NANA'S HOUSE AND THEY COULDN'T POOL THEIR RESOURCES TO KEEP IT OUT OF FORECLOSURE?

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For many families, staying intact may mean staying on the streets.

And for many, staying intact means carrying your weight and chipping in to help Nana make the mortgage payments.

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For Yolanda James's 16-year-old daughter, Mary Quaker, the threat of separation dwarfed material hardship. She struggled through living in a car, even sleeping in her school gym when her mother could not afford a motel, but she clung to what mattered.

Okay. What matters? MAkign sure you are warm and clean?

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"I just wondered," she recalled, "is she going to put us somewhere so we can be able to eat and take a shower and all that?

All right. That's what matters.

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'Just don't split us up. We'll all get through it together.'"

Ooooh Nooooo!

Perhaps that's just where I'm different. I'd camp out in a sewer if it meant my kids were clean and warm and fed. But this is the liberal "equal misery for all" feel-good thing. "If we can't all be clean and warm and fed then we'll all sleep in a sewer. At least we'll be there together."

Pass the Tylenol...

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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[TomAiello 26]

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... your children will already be rich when they leave school

If they are anything like their parents, they'll be hundreds of thousands of dollars (ok millions of 2030 dollars) in debt.

But I am deeply curious what you were basing that statement on. Care to share the reasoning that got you there?

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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[Rookie120 0]

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and your children will already be rich when they leave school

I don't know about his kids but when I graduated I was in debt up to my ass with bills. You know what I did? As a Lib you probably can't, I WORKED! Thats right kiddies. I worked every bit of overtime, holiday you name it. Unlike this lady I even had a (anyone, anybody) thats right a second job. Tell this lady to call me and I'll find a job for her ass! It may not be something she likes or wants to do but damn it when things get tough you better push back or your gonna drown.

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(but you want other children to be homeless - why is that)

Why is it our responsibility to house her family and not the parents? Why must us taxpayers pay for this lady to get a free ride?

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[dreamdancer 0]

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... your children will already be rich when they leave school

If they are anything like their parents, they'll be hundreds of thousands of dollars (ok millions of 2030 dollars) in debt.

But I am deeply curious what you were basing that statement on. Care to share the reasoning that got you there?

so you expect your children to grow up poor and homeless?

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[Rookie120 0]

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so you expect your children to grow up poor and homeless?

Where did he anything even close to that?

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[dreamdancer 0]

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so you expect your children to grow up poor and homeless?

Where did he anything even close to that?

he says his children will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt - sounds poor to me

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[Rookie120 0]

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he says his children will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt - sounds poor to me

Sounds to me like they will have to work hard to pay that school debt off. Just like so many others have done in the past. Sit on your ass and wait for your check on the 1st than yeah your gonna be poor.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[dreamdancer 0]

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he says his children will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt - sounds poor to me

Sounds to me like they will have to work hard to pay that school debt off. Just like so many others have done in the past. Sit on your ass and wait for your check on the 1st than yeah your gonna be poor.

like the bankers have worked hard for their trillions of dollars of welfare

(and shouldn't that be college debt - not school debt)

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[Rookie120 0]

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like the bankers have worked hard for their trillions of dollars of welfare

Hey we are over here! Still talking about the lazy ass with kids on welfare remember? Stay on topic. One at a time. Go to your alt.net/brainwash website and pull up an article on the banks and start another thread if you want to talk about that.

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(and shouldn't that be college debt - not school debt)

School, college, who gives a shit. Care to answer why s it our responsibility to house her family and not the parents? Why must us taxpayers pay for this lady to get a free ride? You seemed to skip that when I asked it.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[dreamdancer 0]

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like the bankers have worked hard for their trillions of dollars of welfare

Hey we are over here! Still talking about the lazy ass with kids on welfare remember? Stay on topic. One at a time. Go to your alt.net/brainwash website and pull up an article on the banks and start another thread if you want to talk about that.

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(and shouldn't that be college debt - not school debt)

School, college, who gives a shit. Care to answer why s it our responsibility to house her family and not the parents? Why must us taxpayers pay for this lady to get a free ride? You seemed to skip that when I asked it.

why are you giving the welfare rich bankers a free pass and taking it out on the poorest

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[Rookie120 0]

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why are you giving the welfare rich bankers a free pass and taking it out on the poorest

Find one post where I supported the bank bailout! She is poor by her decisions. She doesnt work and waits for her welfare check. No shit she's poor. Not my fault she doesnt work, kids, lost house whatever. Life isn't fair. Toughen up and drive on.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[dreamdancer 0]

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why are you giving the welfare rich bankers a free pass and taking it out on the poorest

Find one post where I supported the bank bailout! She is poor by her decisions. She doesnt work and waits for her welfare check. No shit she's poor. Not my fault she doesnt work, kids, lost house whatever. Life isn't fair. Toughen up and drive on.

you're not driving on - you've stopped by to give a lecture on morality

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[Rookie120 0]

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you're not driving on - you've stopped by to give a lecture on morality

No, I just stated that most don't want to support this woman for the rest of her life.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[lawrocket 3]

Welfare to rich bankers? See, most of us have problems with welfare - period. You have a problem with welfare for the rich. I've got a problem with it, too. Your problem is that you think it should go to the poor. I don't think the poor should get it.

Second point - what makes you think the poor aren't getting welfare? They are - this article deliberately pointed out the many forms that the single mother of 3 receives.

so, we aren't giving bankers a free pass. We don't like thieves of any sort.

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[TomAiello 26]

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why are you giving the welfare rich bankers a free pass and taking it out on the poorest

Unlike the Obushma administration, I'm against welfare for billionaires.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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[TomAiello 26]

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he says his children will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt - sounds poor to me

That's because you judge wealth only in dollar terms.

Some of us value knowledge, and as a result are willing to give up dollars (or borrow them) to make ourselves richer in ways that you don't appreciate.

-- Tom Aiello

Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com
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[dreamdancer 0]

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you're not driving on - you've stopped by to give a lecture on morality

No, I just stated that most don't want to support this woman for the rest of her life.

you, personally have not paid or given this woman or her children a single penny - yet you are happy to sound off about her value compared to yours

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[dreamdancer 0]

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he says his children will be hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt - sounds poor to me

That's because you judge wealth only in dollar terms.

Some of us value knowledge, and as a result are willing to give up dollars (or borrow them) to make ourselves richer in ways that you don't appreciate.

i'm the one who said that your children would leave school rich - you're the one mentioning hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt and penury for them - now you seem to have turned tail and are agreeing with me. which is to be
(and remember the adverse affect this woman and her children were going to have on your children - can you outline what this adverse affect will be as you perceive it?)

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[dreamdancer 0]

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Welfare to rich bankers? See, most of us have problems with welfare - period. You have a problem with welfare for the rich. I've got a problem with it, too. Your problem is that you think it should go to the poor. I don't think the poor should get it.

Second point - what makes you think the poor aren't getting welfare? They are - this article deliberately pointed out the many forms that the single mother of 3 receives.

so, we aren't giving bankers a free pass. We don't like thieves of any sort.

the bankers still have all their houses - this woman and her children don't, so no thievery going on here

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[kelpdiver 2]

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the bankers still have all their houses - this woman and her children don't, so no thievery going on here

The bankers may be overpaid, but they actually do work for their money, unlike this case example of your's, who collects 3 separate streams of money for doing nothing productive. So if I have to pick which one bothers me more, easy choice.

And yes, those of us paying over 40 cents of every marginal dollar into various government entities are the ones paying for it. We hope that the overall result is better (she would finally grow up and be more than a breeder, maybe date less deadbeat men, but there's little reason to be optimistic in this case.

[lawrocket 3]

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the bankers still have all their houses

By bankers do you also consider brokers, etc.? There are plenty of these folsk out of houses right now as well.

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this woman and her children don't

Here's a problem - it's not her house. No article you cited mentioned ownership. Instead, they all rented.

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so no thievery going on here

No. In one article, the owner of the apartment complex got foreclosed upon. He didn't have his apartments and renter didn't live there anymore.

In another one, the family couldn't afford to rent their apartment anymore (it's tough to do with a family of four and one part-time income).

So, where's the thievery with No. 1? Perhaps the person who apparently hasn't worked for a cent in a while.

Where's the thievery with No. 2? I didn't see any, except maybe cashing out all the equity in Nana's house and foreclosing. (I wonder what happened to all of Nana's equity. To the bankers? No. PErhaps someplace else. Maybe to help her kids out, eh?)

My wife is hotter than your wife.

[dreamdancer 0]

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the bankers still have all their houses - this woman and her children don't, so no thievery going on here

The bankers may be overpaid, but they actually do work for their money, unlike this case example of your's, who collects 3 separate streams of money for doing nothing productive. So if I have to pick which one bothers me more, easy choice.

And yes, those of us paying over 40 cents of every marginal dollar into various government entities are the ones paying for it. We hope that the overall result is better (she would finally grow up and be more than a breeder, maybe date less deadbeat men, but there's little reason to be optimistic in this case.

being a good mother isn't productive?

(and bankrupting the country is )

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[dreamdancer 0]

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the bankers still have all their houses

By bankers do you also consider brokers, etc.? There are plenty of these folsk out of houses right now as well.

but not homeless - just a reshuffling of assets and 'pop' another house magically appears for them.

(but still you shoot at the 'little thieves' - what a big verbal gun you have. perhaps you might find some worthy targets)

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[lawrocket 3]

>>> being a good mother isn't productive?

I take it that because I work to support my family I'm a bad father. And my wife is not q good mother because our kids have a home.



>>>And bankrupting the country is

Who is bankrupting the country. Oh, yes. Those who take but give nothing except kids to take more are the ones who cause budget surpluses.

Here's the short of it:
The country was bankrupted because people did stuff they can't afford to pay for. They were enabled by those who made money off of giving people money the people couldn't pay back.

Now you are citing the nobility of a fucking woman (literally) who has kids she cannot afford and is enabled by those (government) who gain money (and power) by giving her money.

She's not productive. She's reproductive. That is all.

My wife is hotter than your wife.