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Irish probe: Abuse ‘endemic’ in Catholic schools

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Unbelievable. The government should sue the church for the full amount not expect us to pay.



Shoulda, coulda, woulda ... you should turn the legend into reality and drive all the snakes (Catholic Church) from Ireland (and then abolish Saint Patrick's day).
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Unbelievable. The government should sue the church for the full amount not expect us to pay.



Shoulda, coulda, woulda ... you should turn the legend into reality and drive all the snakes (Catholic Church) from Ireland (and then abolish Saint Patrick's day).



lets not get hysterical :p

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the Church is only going to be liable for €128M and WE the Irish tax payer is going to have to cough up €1 BILLION in compensation..



Why is that?



Because the Irish government is the pussy whipped sock-puppet of the Vatican?
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Really? At the institutional level? What else, in modern times (say, since turn of the 20th Century), compares closely?

Maybe not in how much, but a story in this week's Houston Press indicates that the Episcopal church has done similar [:/].

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the Church is only going to be liable for €128M and WE the Irish tax payer is going to have to cough up €1 BILLION in compensation..



Why is that?



Because the Irish government is the pussy whipped sock-puppet of the Vatican?



in fairness i dont think it is anymore

at the time the deal was done they expected damages to be in the range of 300-500million so the 128 million the church would pay was around a third

now the damages could be up to 1.5billion this makes the churches portion unacceptable

i was just listening to a solicitor on the radio and they reckon there is legal grounds for renegotiation but it will be up to the attorney general to decide that but hopefully it is renogotiated with a much more aggressive stance form the goverment

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Really? At the institutional level? What else, in modern times (say, since turn of the 20th Century), compares closely?

Maybe not in how much, but a story in this week's Houston Press indicates that the Episcopal church has done similar [:/].


Yes, it does seem to be a comparable case regarding that church's hierarchy's reprehensible treatment of the case of a single alleged clergy-abuser. Probably does not qualify as "endemic", though.

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Its not just the Catholic Church I'm sure.



Really? At the institutional level? What else, in modern times (say, since turn of the 20th Century), compares closely?



Public schools. Summer camps.

Sadly, the predators will go where the children are.


And no, it is not more prevalent in the Catholic church than in other institutions, religious or not.

The Catholic church has a more visible, centralized hierarchy, PLUS the church is SUPPOSED to uphold morality, so it makes it that much more shocking when it happens there. So sexual abuse within the church gets more press.
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And no, it is not more prevalent in the Catholic church than in other institutions, religious or not.



I question this statement given the findings in the report (for Ireland alone) ... also, I don't believe other institutions act as accomplices in the same way the Catholic Church did.
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The Catholic church has a more visible, centralized hierarchy, PLUS the church is SUPPOSED to uphold morality, so it makes it that much more shocking when it happens there.



Well, that and the systematic attempts to cover up the offences, protect the molesters and enable to continue their activities in another area. I found that bit most shocking.
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