dreamdancer 0 #1 May 13, 2009 what is the difference? QuoteThere is some ambiguity with the use of the terms "libertarianism" and "libertarian" in writings about anarchism. Since the nineteenth century, the term "libertarianism" has often been used as a synonym for anarchism and was used almost exclusively in this sense until the 1970s in the United States; its use as a synonym is still common outside the U.S. Accordingly, "libertarian socialism" is sometimes used as a synonym for non-individualist anarchism, that is, socialist anarchism, to delineate it from individualist libertarianism (individualist anarchism). On the other hand, some use "libertarianism" to refer to individualistic free-market philosophy only, referring to free-market anarchism as "libertarian anarchism." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchismstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #2 May 13, 2009 Quotewhat is the difference? A Libertarian is an Anarchist with money.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #3 May 13, 2009 Quote Quote what is the difference? A Libertarian is an Anarchist with money. and is white stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DrewEckhardt 0 #4 May 13, 2009 Quotewhat is the difference? Anarchists and libertarians agree that governments suck because people suck. The anarchist solution is no government. Libertarians are practical enough to admit that would lead to some one seizing power and instead want a minimal government to enforce anarchy and perhaps contracts between individuals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #5 May 13, 2009 QuoteQuotewhat is the difference? A Libertarian is an Anarchist with money. The real difference is that Libertarians believe in the Rule of Law, where Anarchists do not.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 May 13, 2009 QuoteQuotewhat is the difference? A Libertarian is an Anarchist with money. A libertarian is a classic liberal who wants to spend his/her money how he/she wants. A libertarian is an anarchist who minds his own business and believes laws apply to him.. A modern liberal (and conservative, for that matter) is someone who wants to to spend another person's money on yet other people. An anarchist is someone who feels the need to insert himself into everyoe's business to tell them to leave him alone. Also, they believe that laws apply to everyone but them. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 May 14, 2009 Holy crap, doesn't anybody know a joke when they read one?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 May 14, 2009 Quote The real difference is that Libertarians believe in the Rule of Law . . . So do Islamic fundamentalists, but I'd hardly call them Libertarians. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 May 14, 2009 Paul: Very little can be posted that people don't actually believe. For example, I could say that I am the world's most boring skydiver and people would believe it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote what is the difference? A Libertarian is an Anarchist with money. Bullshit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #11 May 14, 2009 Quote Very little can be posted that people don't actually believe. What are the boundary limits of that? /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote Very little can be posted that people don't actually believe. What are the boundary limits of that? /Marg Well, I've got a bunch of people on here believing you have a Cray / dedicated T3 data line... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #13 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Very little can be posted that people don't actually believe. What are the boundary limits of that? /Marg Well, I've got a bunch of people on here believing you have a Cray / dedicated T3 data line... ... ... Yeah, it's just part of my mystique as (now-occasional) “the red-haired hottie of Corridor 3” ... -[at myself] Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #14 May 14, 2009 an anarchist is someone who believes in less government than you do. Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #15 May 14, 2009 Quote Yeah, it's just part of my mystique as (now-occasional) “the red-haired hottie of Corridor 3” ... -[at myself] Marg Do you shape-shift, too? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #16 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote Yeah, it's just part of my mystique as (now-occasional) “the red-haired hottie of Corridor 3” ... -[at myself] Do you shape-shift, too? More Jean Grey. Altho' shape-shifting would be a cool super-power. Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #17 May 14, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuotewhat is the difference? A Libertarian is an Anarchist with money. The real difference is that Libertarians believe in the Rule of Law, where Anarchists do not. QuotePolitical usage The first anarchist journal to use "libertarian" was Le Libertaire: Journal du Mouvement Social published in New York between 1858 and 1861 by French communist-anarchist Joseph Déjacque. According to the anarchist historian Max Nettlau, the first use of the term libertarian communism was in November 1880, when a French anarchist congress employed it to more clearly identify its doctrines. The French anarchist journalist Sébastien Faure, later founder and editor of the four-volume Anarchist Encyclopedia, started the weekly paper Le Libertaire (The Libertarian) in 1895. In the meantime, in the United States, libertarianism as a synonym for anarchism had begun to take hold. The anarchist communist geographer and social theorist Peter Kropotkin wrote in his seminal 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica article Anarchism that "It would be impossible to represent here, in a short sketch, the penetration, on the one hand, of anarchist ideas into modern literature, and the influence, on the other hand, which the libertarian ideas of the best contemporary writers have exercised upon the development of anarchism. Today, self-described "Libertarians" generally believe that the minimal role of government is simply to protect individual freedoms against the tyranny of the masses.[citation needed] While anarchists seek to eliminate government, Libertarians count on state power to defend against invasion and crime, provide basic infrastructure, and defend the freedom of individual choice and property rights. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianismstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
