dreamdancer 0 #26 May 13, 2009 QuoteProtect American Workers, Help Get the Employee Free Choice Act Passed The Employee Free Choice Act is the most important labor legislation in almost 40 years, but it is facing huge, well financed, opposition from greedy corporations. Help cut through the corporate propaganda and show that this bill is about helping WORKERS who are the backbone of our economy. Take action now: http://action.americanrightsatwork.org/campaign/efcacampaign/stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #27 May 13, 2009 QuoteIdiots still running the country yes......Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #28 May 13, 2009 Quote Yeah, it really must be hard for those Wal-Mart workers to do their job with a gun being held to their heads. Too bad they don't have a choice about whether they work there or not. Well, one of the many abuses at Walmart has been the practice of locking their employees inside on the night shift. Do people have a choice to work there? Yes and no. When predatory practices (ie, selling at loss) puts local businesses under, then the other employers shrink up. This is more the case in rural America. Is the anti inflationary effect of Walmart good for America? Again, yes and no. At the point of purchase, no doubt people are paying less. But in the bigger picture, they have less money to buy it, the quality of the goods has been diminished, and most of the goods are now made in China rather than locally, as that's the only way the vendor can keep up with the demands to lower price points. Again, lower wages to pay for these goods. Quality loss isn't just a walmart thing - the same problem exists because of Home Depot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #29 May 13, 2009 And how is it that Walmart is able to compete so well and drive other operations out of business? Several things, but a substantial factor is government policies. Let's say you are a semi-rural town. New development has competing this you can put in: housing, a strip mall, a church or a Walmart. For the city it is a no brainer - Walmart. Housing and churches don't generate sales tax revenue. Strip malls don't generate much sales tax revenue. Walmart can generate millions. City, county and state governments LLLOOOOVVVEEE Walmart. And Costco. They are government revenue machines. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,111 #30 May 13, 2009 >And I'll even disagree with Billvon. Unions are around to ensure mediority. I think you just agreed with me there! > Unions are there to ensure nothing more than the continued growth > and revenues of unions. They are also there for that, with some exceptions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #31 May 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteUnions were a great idea back when workers needed them to protect them from unsafe working conditions, predatory employment practices etc. Nowadays, though, they do more harm than good, and serve more to promulgate mediocrity than protect worker rights. What I find hilarious though is that some people have zero appreciation for the improvement unions brought the not just the factory worker, but ALL people that don't own the business they work for. This includes white collar as well as minimum wage workers. I've been on both sides of a contract negotiation table. Without the unions today many non-union minimum wage workers would be at risk of the same behaviors. One need only look at such companies as WalMart to see what happens in a purely non-union environment. Further, not all unions are created equally bad. To simply lump them ALL into the same category that "promulgate mediocrity" shows a certain amount of prejudice that would not be tolerated elsewhere. Very well said.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #32 May 13, 2009 Quote Well, one of the many abuses at Walmart has been the practice of locking their employees inside on the night shift. I'm calling bullshit on that. Can you substantiate it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 May 13, 2009 QuoteQuote Well, one of the many abuses at Walmart has been the practice of locking their employees inside on the night shift. I'm calling bullshit on that. Can you substantiate it? That *was* one of the complaints in a lawsuit against Walmart...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #34 May 13, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuote Well, one of the many abuses at Walmart has been the practice of locking their employees inside on the night shift. I'm calling bullshit on that. Can you substantiate it? That *was* one of the complaints in a lawsuit against Walmart... Locking employees in a building is a violation of fire codes. Sounds fishy to me. Hope it isn't true. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #35 May 13, 2009 I've got a test to find out which unions are not equally bad. Let's remove the Sherma Anti-trust exemption from unions and I will have very little trouble with them. Or, let us repeal the Sherman Antitrust Act. It would be a good thing! Unless the Act wasa designed to prohibit bad conduct. In which case, unions who invoke the exemption are all equally bad. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #36 May 14, 2009 Quote I've got a test to find out which unions are not equally bad. Let's remove the Sherma Anti-trust exemption from unions and I will have very little trouble with them. Didn't you hear the news? The Obama administration is going to start strictly enforcing anti-trust laws...oh, unless you happen to be one of their political allies, in which case you get a free pass. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #37 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote I've got a test to find out which unions are not equally bad. Let's remove the Sherma Anti-trust exemption from unions and I will have very little trouble with them. Didn't you hear the news? The Obama administration is going to start strictly enforcing anti-trust laws...oh, unless you happen to be one of their political allies, in which case you get a free pass. Is that sorta like the 'no-lobbyist' rule? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #38 May 14, 2009 Quote Quote I've got a test to find out which unions are not equally bad. Let's remove the Sherma Anti-trust exemption from unions and I will have very little trouble with them. Didn't you hear the news? The Obama administration is going to start strictly enforcing anti-trust laws...oh, unless you happen to be one of their political allies, in which case you get a free pass. Oh, yes. See, to run afoul of the anti-trust laws is bad bad bad. Unions, however, are specifically exempt from anti-trust laws, which is good, good, good. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
