JohnRich 4 #1 April 28, 2009 Honestly, there should have been more. Would have been nice to see some Democrat Congressmen also arrested for this. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97R0KEG0&show_article=1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,521 #2 April 28, 2009 There's a thread by Quade Five Democrat Congressman arrested in DC Never mind... I get it now.Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 April 28, 2009 QuoteHonestly, there should have been more. Would have been nice to see some Democrats also arrested for this. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97R0KEG0&show_article=1 Why do I get the feeling that you would support a Pol Pot solution for all Democrats. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #4 April 28, 2009 Well done you. I have absolutely NO idea what the point John is trying to make is. When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #5 April 28, 2009 Quote Quote Honestly, there should have been more. Would have been nice to see some Democrats also arrested for this. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97R0KEG0&show_article=1 Why do I get the feeling that you would support a Pol Pot solution for all Democrats. Evidently, your sterling example when it comes to the Republicans is contagious... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 April 28, 2009 Quote Well done you. I have absolutely NO idea what the point John is trying to make is. It was a clumsy attempt. It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, otherwise JR might have had a decent point, but the fact is the current administration is trying to desperately clean up that mess even though it will mean, gasp, having to raise some funding from somewhere. Funny how much some people don't get that. If you wanna take care of the sick and injured, yeah, it costs money. BTW, JR, uh, what makes you assume that none of the people in the wheelchairs that got arrested were Democrats?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 April 28, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Honestly, there should have been more. Would have been nice to see some Democrats also arrested for this. http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97R0KEG0&show_article=1 Why do I get the feeling that you would support a Pol Pot solution for all Democrats. Evidently, your sterling example when it comes to the Republicans is contagious... Why.. the rePUBICan party has completely reached irrelevancy. The lates poll shows the party of dead enders is down to 21% who will actually cop to being rePUBICan. But it is interesting to note that 38% now identify as psuedo-independents. The change in percentages is directly proportional. I guess so many of you REALLLLY hate being seen as losers..... since in the rePUBICan mind.. perception is all important. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
regulator 0 #8 April 28, 2009 I'd switch to democrat as well if they approved my 'pot' situation! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 April 28, 2009 QuoteWhy do I get the feeling that you would support a Pol Pot solution for all Democrats. I don't. Pol Pot was a communist who believed that he knew what was best for the collective polity. John is on the other side of the political spectrum from Pol Pot. Pol Pot's solution (and Stalin's, and Mao's, and Kim Il-Sung's) was simply to execute, work or starve dissent to death - the dissenters being those who oppose nationalization and end of free choice. The GOP and the Dems seem to be in competition to learn who can do it better. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 April 28, 2009 Quote Pol Pot's solution (and Stalin's, and Mao's, and Kim Il-Sung's) was simply to execute, work or starve dissent to death - the dissenters being those who oppose nationalization and end of free choice. reply] And your point is??????????????????????????????? Radicals of any spectrum BELIEVE any dissent from their chosen path is heresy and must be brutally obliterated... no matter the means. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airdvr 210 #11 April 28, 2009 Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #12 April 28, 2009 Quote Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too. So . . . somehow, the fact that GWB didn't fix the issue for eight years means he's obviously a great guy? Like I said, not only didn't he fix it, he made CUTS to the program. What happened at Bethesda would be unconscionable at a veterinary. Some people really have a warped sense of values.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites warpedskydiver 0 #13 April 29, 2009 Quote Quote Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too. So . . . somehow, the fact that GWB didn't fix the issue for eight years means he's obviously a great guy? Like I said, not only didn't he fix it, he made CUTS to the program. What happened at Bethesda would be unconscionable at a veterinary. Some people really have a warped sense of values. And another PA by Quade. I am going to use your name as a saying. You can't polish a quade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #14 April 29, 2009 Quote Quote Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too. So . . . somehow, the fact that GWB didn't fix the issue for eight years means he's obviously a great guy? Like I said, not only didn't he fix it, he made CUTS to the program. What happened at Bethesda would be unconscionable at a veterinary. Some people really have a warped sense of values. Paul, I'd like you to spell out specifically what President Bush had cut from the VA and care for vets. I'd also like to know what you're talking about re: Bethesda. Based on what I can find, the VA has had funding increases for every year that Bush signed a budget from Congress.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #15 April 29, 2009 QuotePaul, I'd like you to spell out specifically what President Bush had cut from the VA and care for vets. http://www.federaldaily.com/federaldaily/archive/2008/02/FD022608.htm http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070213/news_1n13vets.html http://www.slate.com/id/2161386/fr/flyout Quote I'd also like to know what you're talking about re: Bethesda. You can start by reading this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center_neglect_scandal Quote Based on what I can find, the VA has had funding increases for every year that Bush signed a budget from Congress. I guess we're reading different things.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #16 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuotePaul, I'd like you to spell out specifically what President Bush had cut from the VA and care for vets. http://www.federaldaily.com/federaldaily/archive/2008/02/FD022608.htm http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070213/news_1n13vets.html http://www.slate.com/id/2161386/fr/flyout Quote I'd also like to know what you're talking about re: Bethesda. You can start by reading this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center_neglect_scandal Quote Based on what I can find, the VA has had funding increases for every year that Bush signed a budget from Congress. I guess we're reading different things. None of those passed in the budget. President Bush signed the FY09 budget, so again, I ask, what specific cuts were put in place? I'll answer for you: None. http://www.federalbudget.com/ So, you mention Bethesda, and cite an incident at Walter Reed. Let me share something with you, I was there when that "scandal" broke. I can tell you that one soldier and one former Marine talking to the Washington Post did more harm than good. I know one of those guys too. You should know better than to reference wikipedia for crap like that. You've usually got some pretty even handed points, you're off the map on this one dude...pretty disappointed.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #17 April 29, 2009 QuotePol Pot was a communist who believed that he knew what was best for the collective polity. I will always wonder why we chose to invade Iraq, a second time, for their crime of not allowing U.N. weapons inspectors into their country, when we did absolutely nothing about a dictator that killed every intellectual, and over one million people (1/4th of the total population of his country!) in Cambodia. I mean, aside from the oil/money in Iraq, it seems we had every moral right to stop the Khmer Rouge, and no real reason to go into Iraq (unless you count some very shady "intelligence" that came from one half-wit). And yet, the second Iraq war was rife with U.S. propaganda about how we were saving all the innocent Iraqis. Could it be that the U.S. fights it's wars for money, and not for any moral reason?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TomAiello 26 #18 April 29, 2009 Quote Could it be that the U.S. fights it's wars for money, and not for any moral reason? i actually think that the US fights it's wars for politics, not money. If we're doing it for money, we're getting a spectacularly poor return on investment. In fact, if we were to start invading middle east countries, seizing control of their oil, selling it on the open market and using the proceeds to pay off our national debt...hmmmm....I might be able to get behind that. In all seriousness, I bet that we'd still lose money, given how expensive modern warfare is.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #19 April 29, 2009 Quote Radicals of any spectrum BELIEVE any dissent from their chosen path is heresy and must be brutally obliterated... no matter the means. Sure, look at the treatment of anyone on this site that's not perfectly biased in leaning in the PC directions, or bad mouths the current pres, etc. There's couple here (rare, but still present) on both extremes that I'd not be surprised to see them sneak up and try to beat up someone in an alley just because they follow the opposite set of politics I totally agree with your comment, (But I don't think JR is a 'radical' by any means) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites riddler 0 #20 April 29, 2009 QuoteIf we're doing it for money, we're getting a spectacularly poor return on investment. The U.S. made a profit on the first gulf war. But I don't think the government expects to make a profit. I have no doubt that corporations "nudge" elected officials, and do expect to make money from it.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #21 April 29, 2009 Quote(But I don't think JR is a 'radical' by any means) Your posting history would prevent you from thinking so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites quade 4 #22 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteCould it be that the U.S. fights it's wars for money, and not for any moral reason? i actually think that the US fights it's wars for politics, not money. I think it depended a lot on the actual address of the person in question. The person living at 1600 Pennsylvania may not have had a profit motive. However, I think there were a lot of people associated with 1150 17th St SW that did.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites wmw999 2,644 #23 April 29, 2009 Actually, I don't think JR is a radical either. I'll admit I roll my eyes when I see a guns-and-England thread (sorry John Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #24 April 29, 2009 Quote Actually, I don't think JR is a radical either. I'll admit I roll my eyes when I see a guns-and-England thread (sorry John Wendy P. I have. But I only have his wonderful posts to base that on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites nerdgirl 0 #25 April 29, 2009 Quote Actually, I don't think JR is a radical either. I'll admit I roll my eyes when I see a guns-and-England thread (sorry John Wendy P. I like John's posts too (w/occasional exceptions ). Regardless of whether I agree or disagree, there's usually a strong ethical component underlying his arguments. He's definitely one the dz.com folks I'd like to meet IRL, along with you Wendy! /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 1 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
airdvr 210 #11 April 28, 2009 Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too.Please don't dent the planet. Destinations by Roxanne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #12 April 28, 2009 Quote Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too. So . . . somehow, the fact that GWB didn't fix the issue for eight years means he's obviously a great guy? Like I said, not only didn't he fix it, he made CUTS to the program. What happened at Bethesda would be unconscionable at a veterinary. Some people really have a warped sense of values.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 April 29, 2009 Quote Quote Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too. So . . . somehow, the fact that GWB didn't fix the issue for eight years means he's obviously a great guy? Like I said, not only didn't he fix it, he made CUTS to the program. What happened at Bethesda would be unconscionable at a veterinary. Some people really have a warped sense of values. And another PA by Quade. I am going to use your name as a saying. You can't polish a quade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #14 April 29, 2009 Quote Quote Quote It's really a pity the jack ass that lead the previous administration was so hell bent on cutting funding for the veterans of the war he started, You get dizzy when you spin? This has been a problem for 40 years. Amazing how you can try and pin this on GWB too. So . . . somehow, the fact that GWB didn't fix the issue for eight years means he's obviously a great guy? Like I said, not only didn't he fix it, he made CUTS to the program. What happened at Bethesda would be unconscionable at a veterinary. Some people really have a warped sense of values. Paul, I'd like you to spell out specifically what President Bush had cut from the VA and care for vets. I'd also like to know what you're talking about re: Bethesda. Based on what I can find, the VA has had funding increases for every year that Bush signed a budget from Congress.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #15 April 29, 2009 QuotePaul, I'd like you to spell out specifically what President Bush had cut from the VA and care for vets. http://www.federaldaily.com/federaldaily/archive/2008/02/FD022608.htm http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070213/news_1n13vets.html http://www.slate.com/id/2161386/fr/flyout Quote I'd also like to know what you're talking about re: Bethesda. You can start by reading this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center_neglect_scandal Quote Based on what I can find, the VA has had funding increases for every year that Bush signed a budget from Congress. I guess we're reading different things.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #16 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuotePaul, I'd like you to spell out specifically what President Bush had cut from the VA and care for vets. http://www.federaldaily.com/federaldaily/archive/2008/02/FD022608.htm http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070213/news_1n13vets.html http://www.slate.com/id/2161386/fr/flyout Quote I'd also like to know what you're talking about re: Bethesda. You can start by reading this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Reed_Army_Medical_Center_neglect_scandal Quote Based on what I can find, the VA has had funding increases for every year that Bush signed a budget from Congress. I guess we're reading different things. None of those passed in the budget. President Bush signed the FY09 budget, so again, I ask, what specific cuts were put in place? I'll answer for you: None. http://www.federalbudget.com/ So, you mention Bethesda, and cite an incident at Walter Reed. Let me share something with you, I was there when that "scandal" broke. I can tell you that one soldier and one former Marine talking to the Washington Post did more harm than good. I know one of those guys too. You should know better than to reference wikipedia for crap like that. You've usually got some pretty even handed points, you're off the map on this one dude...pretty disappointed.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #17 April 29, 2009 QuotePol Pot was a communist who believed that he knew what was best for the collective polity. I will always wonder why we chose to invade Iraq, a second time, for their crime of not allowing U.N. weapons inspectors into their country, when we did absolutely nothing about a dictator that killed every intellectual, and over one million people (1/4th of the total population of his country!) in Cambodia. I mean, aside from the oil/money in Iraq, it seems we had every moral right to stop the Khmer Rouge, and no real reason to go into Iraq (unless you count some very shady "intelligence" that came from one half-wit). And yet, the second Iraq war was rife with U.S. propaganda about how we were saving all the innocent Iraqis. Could it be that the U.S. fights it's wars for money, and not for any moral reason?Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #18 April 29, 2009 Quote Could it be that the U.S. fights it's wars for money, and not for any moral reason? i actually think that the US fights it's wars for politics, not money. If we're doing it for money, we're getting a spectacularly poor return on investment. In fact, if we were to start invading middle east countries, seizing control of their oil, selling it on the open market and using the proceeds to pay off our national debt...hmmmm....I might be able to get behind that. In all seriousness, I bet that we'd still lose money, given how expensive modern warfare is.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #19 April 29, 2009 Quote Radicals of any spectrum BELIEVE any dissent from their chosen path is heresy and must be brutally obliterated... no matter the means. Sure, look at the treatment of anyone on this site that's not perfectly biased in leaning in the PC directions, or bad mouths the current pres, etc. There's couple here (rare, but still present) on both extremes that I'd not be surprised to see them sneak up and try to beat up someone in an alley just because they follow the opposite set of politics I totally agree with your comment, (But I don't think JR is a 'radical' by any means) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
riddler 0 #20 April 29, 2009 QuoteIf we're doing it for money, we're getting a spectacularly poor return on investment. The U.S. made a profit on the first gulf war. But I don't think the government expects to make a profit. I have no doubt that corporations "nudge" elected officials, and do expect to make money from it.Trapped on the surface of a sphere. XKCD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #21 April 29, 2009 Quote(But I don't think JR is a 'radical' by any means) Your posting history would prevent you from thinking so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #22 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteCould it be that the U.S. fights it's wars for money, and not for any moral reason? i actually think that the US fights it's wars for politics, not money. I think it depended a lot on the actual address of the person in question. The person living at 1600 Pennsylvania may not have had a profit motive. However, I think there were a lot of people associated with 1150 17th St SW that did.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,644 #23 April 29, 2009 Actually, I don't think JR is a radical either. I'll admit I roll my eyes when I see a guns-and-England thread (sorry John Wendy P. There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 April 29, 2009 Quote Actually, I don't think JR is a radical either. I'll admit I roll my eyes when I see a guns-and-England thread (sorry John Wendy P. I have. But I only have his wonderful posts to base that on. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #25 April 29, 2009 Quote Actually, I don't think JR is a radical either. I'll admit I roll my eyes when I see a guns-and-England thread (sorry John Wendy P. I like John's posts too (w/occasional exceptions ). Regardless of whether I agree or disagree, there's usually a strong ethical component underlying his arguments. He's definitely one the dz.com folks I'd like to meet IRL, along with you Wendy! /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
