jcd11235 0 #26 April 24, 2009 QuoteWhat is done or been modified for shortfields? That I don't know. I just know for certain that it has been landed on at least one runway that is too short for a "stock" 747.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #27 April 24, 2009 Quote Quote Some great stuff guys, I have afeeling this thread will spin of really quick to bush Vs Obama though. My thought is that the new admin is asking everyone to cut back, yet he is traveling a ton right now, making "small" trips to Iowa and stuff like that. I am not saying cut back security, but maybe reduce the numbers of trips, perhaps ride in the c-130 or what ever else is transporting all the limos or catch a military jet instead of breaking out 3 choppers and the presidental jet.. why does there have to be so much waste and espically on Earth day? just does not seem like change to me. this is not an obama bash either, I am sure that just about every past pres has done this and it's time for that style of over the top waste to stop. Now how do we get the admin to stop doing that? joe Pssst.. he is the head of a country.... its his job to see and be seenEven I did not begrudge the moron from Texas his trips to Texas.. and all over the world. Agreed, but that's not the issue. Do as I say, not as I do is the problem. It's an even bigger problem if taxes and the price of goods increases because of government mandated environmental regulations. If they want to play on yachts or waste thousands of gallons of fuel for a photo op, that's fine with me. Just don't bitch about my F-150 or cry about the polar bears. I 100% guarantee he fucked up the environment more on that one trip than my entire family will for the next 5-10 years. (Speaking in terms of average fuel use, engine efficiency, and money spent on food and lodging.) -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #28 April 24, 2009 Quote Quote Got any numbers for presidential trips from Jan of 2001 to Jan of 2009? If I did, I'll bet they wouldn't include the cost of a personal make-up artist for the first lady as we have now.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #29 April 24, 2009 Quote If I did, I'll bet they wouldn't include the cost of a personal make-up artist for the first lady as we have now. You must have missed the thread in which it was pointed out that such expenses are covered by the Obamas, not the taxpayers.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #30 April 24, 2009 QuoteQuoteWhat is done or been modified for shortfields? That I don't know. I just know for certain that it has been landed on at least one runway that is too short for a "stock" 747. I'm gonna guess and say it was well under gross. Scheds have to assume full weight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #31 April 24, 2009 QuoteI just know for certain that it has been landed on at least one runway that is too short for a "stock" 747. I have to. It has been into SBN a number of times. But it has no problem getting in. From what I see nothing is done to help short fields. No winglets, or raked tips and there is only so much you can to with a CF6. It's just taking off light. No cargo in the belly, light on fuel. You don't need 200,000lbs when your only flying for a few hours. That right there will make a 747 hop off the ground pretty fast.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #32 April 24, 2009 QuoteQuoteI just know for certain that it has been landed on at least one runway that is too short for a "stock" 747. I have to. It has been into SBN a number of times. But it has no problem getting in. From what I see nothing is done to help short fields. No winglets, or raked tips and there is only so much you can to with a CF6. It's just taking off light. No cargo in the belly, light on fuel. You don't need 200,000lbs when your only flying for a few hours. That right there will make a 747 hop off the ground pretty fast. A former 747 captain I worked with told us what the modification was at the time. I just don't remember what it was right now.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #33 April 24, 2009 Quote Quote If I did, I'll bet they wouldn't include the cost of a personal make-up artist for the first lady as we have now. You must have missed the thread in which it was pointed out that such expenses are covered by the Obamas, not the taxpayers. Shhh he is on a roll playing the good little right wing attack radio parrot..... we don't want to confuse polly with some facts now would we. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #34 April 24, 2009 Quote Quote Quote If I did, I'll bet they wouldn't include the cost of a personal make-up artist for the first lady as we have now. You must have missed the thread in which it was pointed out that such expenses are covered by the Obamas, not the taxpayers. Shhh he is on a roll playing the good little right wing attack radio parrot..... we don't want to confuse polly with some facts now would we. What facts do you have that his trip to promote responsible living wasn't more wasteful than any one person over the course of a decade? -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #35 April 24, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote If I did, I'll bet they wouldn't include the cost of a personal make-up artist for the first lady as we have now. You must have missed the thread in which it was pointed out that such expenses are covered by the Obamas, not the taxpayers. Shhh he is on a roll playing the good little right wing attack radio parrot..... we don't want to confuse polly with some facts now would we. What facts do you have that his trip to promote responsible living wasn't more wasteful than any one person over the course of a decade? The real question is.... how good a make up artist do you use for those special appearances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chuckakers 426 #36 April 27, 2009 Quote Quote If I did, I'll bet they wouldn't include the cost of a personal make-up artist for the first lady as we have now. You must have missed the thread in which it was pointed out that such expenses are covered by the Obamas, not the taxpayers. Kind of interesting - I checked out numerous news stories on the subject and each one said the Obama's cover the make-up artists travel expenses, but did not say who pays for the actual services.Chuck Akers D-10855 Houston, TX Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skinnay 0 #37 April 27, 2009 just like the other day, i saw a mcdonalds commercial.. they must pay a FORTUNE to put that ad on tv! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
