rehmwa 2 #101 April 28, 2009 QuoteHmmm … I suspect Tom’s values are going to withstand internet debate. true If one can’t ask questions or challenge assertions, how is that different than what you’ve noted -- & unless I've misunderstood, pejoratively -- as attributes of religion? Or perhaps, cynicism is the last refuge of the idealist, eh? also true, but there's a total difference in asking "how much do you hate your family in order to sell them to satisfy your bloodlust for money?" vs "how much would you think a normal bread winner would sacrifice in time with family vs making $1M per year?" one can be more subtle in pressing the first flavor, but it's still a veiled attack and normal SOP for many members here - no biggie when it's going both ways, but frustrating when only one way in otherwords, the discussion isn't about value and worth systems, rather it turns into the ability of one debator to wade through the filth courteous debate isn't difficult - you have no issue with it - why not others ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #102 April 28, 2009 Quotealso true, but there's a total difference in asking "how much do you hate your family in order to sell them to satisfy your bloodlust for money?" vs "how much would you think a normal bread winner would sacrifice in time with family vs making $1M per year?" Nice straw man. My question was asked in a reasonable, respectful manner about his particular situation in order to give Tom the opportunity to provide the data necessary to support his assertion. Quotein otherwords, the discussion isn't about value and worth systems, rather it turns into the ability of one debator to wade through the filth I suspect that you lack any understanding of what the discussion is actually about, since, rather than productively participate, you've chosen only to heckle the participants. Quotecourteous debate isn't difficult - you have no issue with it - why not others You appear to be the only one in this thread that does have a problem with courteous debate. Why do you keep complaining about it?Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt.Slog 0 #103 April 28, 2009 "The fact is, an investigation into a particular physical, chemical, or biological process might not pay off for a year, or a decade, or at all. And when it does, the rewards are often broadly shared, enjoyed by those who bore its costs but also by those who did not. "That's why the private sector under-invests in basic science - and why the public sector must invest in this kind of research." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #104 April 28, 2009 >How about standards? Standards are information, at a fundamental >level, that are very hard to monetize. Indeed, often standards have a _negative_ short term value. The FCC spends far more time telling people "no, that's not compatible with spectrum allocation" than it does telling people yes. Of course, in the long run, having spectrum available to the public for things like cellphones, TV transmission, ELT signals and EMS/police communication is a very good thing, so we accept the short term pain of more restrictive/more expensive/less functional radio designs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #105 April 28, 2009 QuoteYou appear to be the only one in this thread that does have a problem with courteous debate. Why do you keep complaining about it? just bored - but there you go again, "I'm not doing, You are" nicely played Edit: why do you think I'm talking about you? Actually, I like to see yours and guys like Idrankwhat's comments. You aren't compelled to ALWAYS cross the line like so many. You want a list of those from the right and the left? I bet we could compile a good one. The real trick is IDing those that refuse to add names to their own side - they are likely on the list. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #106 April 28, 2009 QuoteQuoteYou appear to be the only one in this thread that does have a problem with courteous debate. Why do you keep complaining about it? just bored - but there you go again, "I'm not doing, You are" nicely played I'll wait while you post something relevant to the topic so that we might engage in courteous debate.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #107 April 28, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteYou appear to be the only one in this thread that does have a problem with courteous debate. Why do you keep complaining about it? just bored - but there you go again, "I'm not doing, You are" nicely played I'll wait while you post something relevant to the topic so that we might engage in courteous debate. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #108 April 29, 2009 Quoteare you getting bored yet with us calling each other the same names over and over? Dude - until you popped up with the insults I was having a conversation with someone who was not you, about a topic that you apparently have no interest in. So why the fuck did you a) begin the name calling and then b) declare yourself bored with the name calling? Are you seriously so blind that you cannot see your own behaviour? QuoteI only call it when I see it. Try seeing what it is that you do.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #109 April 29, 2009 QuoteEdit: why do you think I'm talking about you? The reply in which you accused people of being shallow, desperate and trite was addressed to JCD. His was the only user name that you specifically quoted. Why on earth should he think you weren't talking about him? (Yet another classic ploy nicely played by you though: when under legitimate attack, redefine the position you have to defend. Classic.)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #110 April 29, 2009 awwww, did your widdle feelings get hurt? I'm sorry QuoteTry seeing what it is that you do. I will when you do. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #111 April 29, 2009 QuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I'm laughing too. There is no way I'll post something relevant here. I'm wallowing in my own crapulence on this one. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #112 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I'm laughing too. There is no way I'll post something relevant here. I'm wallowing in my own crapulence on this one. It is what it is.... You do it so well Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #113 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I'm laughing too. There is no way I'll post something relevant here. I'm wallowing in my own crapulence on this one. It is what it is.... You do it so well I learn from the best, thank you sensei ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #114 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I'm laughing too. There is no way I'll post something relevant here. I'm wallowing in my own crapulence on this one. It is what it is.... You do it so well I learn from the best, thank you sensei To learn is one thing.. to pervert is far different. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #115 April 29, 2009 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Yeah Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight I'm laughing too. There is no way I'll post something relevant here. I'm wallowing in my own crapulence on this one. It is what it is.... You do it so well I learn from the best, thank you sensei To learn is one thing.. to pervert is far different. but, to enact a show about DZ.com postings using sock puppets, streamers, and funny voices is the only true art left to man ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #116 April 29, 2009 Quoteawwww, did your widdle feelings get hurt? Absolutely not. It was just surprise in seeing that you really don't see how hypocritical and silly your posts are. Until just now I still thought that it was something you were putting on. QuoteI will when you do. I'm sorry, who was talking about schoolyard nonsense?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
