rushmc 23 #51 June 12, 2009 Quote Quote A white supremacist who killed a security guard at a Holocaust memorial museum in the US has links to the British National party, which gained two MEPs in last week's European elections. Yesterday it emerged that Von Brunn, a longtime antisemite, had attended meetings of the American Friends of the British National party (AFBNP), which was set up to raise funds from far-right activists in America. Mark Cotterill, who ran the US-based organisation before it folded in 2001, said: "He did attend meetings. I have just checked my database and he is down as 'meetings only', so he was not a major donor, although he may have put some money on the plate when it was passed round." The AFBNP treasurer, Todd Blodgett, also told the Washington Post that he and Von Brunn had attended fundraising meetings in Arlington County. The BNP leader, Nick Griffin, spoke to at least two AFBNP meetings and said the money raised by the organisation made a "significant contribution to the BNP's [2001] general election campaign". http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/11/holocaust-museum-shooting-bnp-von-brunn I think "far right" to you is center left to most everyone else"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #52 June 12, 2009 I don't really think those are "groups". The violent actors appear to be acting on their own, or (at most) in very small groups. To call 4 guys sitting around in their mom's basement bitching an "extremist group" is to overly dignify them.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #53 June 12, 2009 QuoteWhat is Pathetic billvon is the attempt to link the last murder to the right wing. First off, this guy was a nut case but, if you have to link him maybe you should look at what he has wrote and posted. He hated Bush He hated Newt He hated Jews He hated Neocons He tried to take over the Fed Reserve "First, take over the media" (and the banks, major industry, and health care) So when the media takes a left wing nut and labels him a right wing nut, does that count as one of the major steps to a socialist coup? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #54 June 12, 2009 Quote Quote What is Pathetic billvon is the attempt to link the last murder to the right wing. First off, this guy was a nut case but, if you have to link him maybe you should look at what he has wrote and posted. He hated Bush He hated Newt He hated Jews He hated Neocons He tried to take over the Fed Reserve "First, take over the media" (and the banks, major industry, and health care) So when the media takes a left wing nut and labels him a right wing nut, does that count as one of the major steps to a socialist coup? "They" the government, did not need to take it over, as it has been willingly handed over to them. Hell, did you the story about the hearings befor the Senate regarding the CEO of a bank that did not take bail out funds, told he merges (with a bank that did) or forget your job????? WTF is going on? Now ,the UAW (owning whatever percentage of the the car companies) was going to use those moneies to fund thier health programs. Well, if the Obama government gets this fucked up heath care plan through, the UAW will not need to fund the health program and will therfore get a huge wind fall of cashwhat is going on is really fucked up bad"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #55 June 12, 2009 Quote ...the UAW will not need to fund the health program and will therfore get a huge wind fall of cash Handed to them by their (as in, they purchased them) politicians, who decided that unsecured creditors such as the UAW ought to take precedence over secured creditors.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crustySCSA69 0 #56 June 12, 2009 yep.. we is on a right-wing witch-hunt and since George 'uplawed' waterboarding we is gonna test them witches the OLD FASHIONED way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #57 June 12, 2009 >I don't really think those are "groups". I agree - they are primarily the "lone wolves" referred to in the DHS report. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #58 June 12, 2009 Quote>Yes, some may have committed suicide. That has nothing to do with >the topic, thread, or report. I was answering you. You said that the returning veterans are re-integrating into their communities in a calm and safe manner. Unless you consider suicide a "calm and safe" thing to do, you were wrong there. I know that you will never, ever admit that. So to bring it back to the issue at hand - Normally, you just merely troll. That is an obvious lie. From the report: QuoteHowever, the report goes on to suggest worsening economic woes, potential new legislative restrictions on firearms and "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks." The report mentions the fear that veterans may carry out violent attacks. That is the failure to re-integrate that the report refers to, and I referred to, and you understand. I was referring to it in context and you understood that context. You spend too much time playing the little Dem Sophistry games of the definition of "is". Normally it is only annoying and valueless to a thread. This time, it was ugliness. You need to just man-up and apologize for your remarks about veterans. Or don't, I don't care. Just don't respond to my posts anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,121 #59 June 12, 2009 >From the report: Correct. I was replying to your statement, which was not in the report. To refresh your memory, it was: "No, the returning veterans are re-integrating into their communities in a calm and safe manner." That is not true. Now you are claiming that veterans are not carrying out violent attacks on other people. With a few exceptions, that IS true (fortunately.) >You need to just man-up and apologize for your remarks about veterans. I am amazed at the lengths you will go to avoid admitting you were wrong on even a very minor point. Whatever; tell yourself whatever you like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #60 June 12, 2009 Quote>From the report: Correct. I was replying to your statement, which was not in the report. To refresh your memory, it was: "No, the returning veterans are re-integrating into their communities in a calm and safe manner." That is not true. Now you are claiming that veterans are not carrying out violent attacks on other people. With a few exceptions, that IS true (fortunately.) >You need to just man-up and apologize for your remarks about veterans. I am amazed at the lengths you will go to avoid admitting you were wrong on even a very minor point. Whatever; tell yourself whatever you like. Yet again you use the exteme and the few to try and raise your point to, well, something that makes a point. And yet again you have failed."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites