BIGUN 1,490 #1 April 13, 2009 QuoteWASHINGTON – A newly unclassified Department of Homeland Security report warns against the possibility of violence by unnamed "right-wing extremists" concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power, restrictions on firearms, abortion and the loss of U.S. sovereignty and singles out returning war veterans as particular threats. The report, titled "Right-Wing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," dated April 7, states that "threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts." However, the report goes on to suggest worsening economic woes, potential new legislative restrictions on firearms and "the return of military veterans facing significant challenges reintegrating into their communities could lead to the potential emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks." www.worldnetdaily.com Joke: So what happens if returning veterans become Left-Wing Extremists? They join NORML. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #2 April 13, 2009 No problem. It's easy to tell them because they have Ron Paul bumper stickers on their cars. -- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 April 13, 2009 Quote Told ya so Exactly as Obamacles would like it, label all Veterans as extremists and Militants. Anyone who would own a gun is an extremist and will need to be rounded up for the common good. Isn't it wonderful that our government planned ahead in order to build prisons and keep them empty and waiting? I suspect many Americans will gladly help the nation by observing and reporting who these "nutters" are. It is a great thing that Obama's civilian paramilitary plans have the 50:1 ratio they need in order to report and investigate upon suspicious individuals. Voting records are available for initial screening and profiling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcd11235 0 #5 April 13, 2009 QuoteExactly as Obamacles would like it, label all Veterans as extremists and Militants. Anyone who would own a gun is an extremist and will need to be rounded up for the common good. Nothing like hyperbole on a Monday afternoon. QuoteIsn't it wonderful that our government planned ahead in order to build prisons and keep them empty and waiting? To which new, functional, empty prisons are you referring? QuoteI suspect many Americans will gladly help the nation by observing and reporting who these "nutters" are. It is a great thing that Obama's civilian paramilitary plans have the 50:1 ratio they need in order to report and investigate upon suspicious individuals. Voting records are available for initial screening and profiling. It may not be fashionable to address the problem of domestic terrorism, but make no mistake; domestic terrorism is a very real problem. I very much doubt that Obama is at all concerned with how disgruntled citizens voted. I'm confident that he will go after domestic terrorists who voted Democrat just as vigorously as those who voted Republican.Math tutoring available. Only $6! per hour! First lesson: Factorials! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 April 13, 2009 Good job that you're not getting confused by the last "You're either with us or agen us" mob. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #7 April 13, 2009 Quote Quote Told ya so Exactly as Obamacles would like it, label all Veterans as extremists and Militants. Anyone who would own a gun is an extremist and will need to be rounded up for the common good. Isn't it wonderful that our government planned ahead in order to build prisons and keep them empty and waiting? I suspect many Americans will gladly help the nation by observing and reporting who these "nutters" are. It is a great thing that Obama's civilian paramilitary plans have the 50:1 ratio they need in order to report and investigate upon suspicious individuals. Voting records are available for initial screening and profiling. Hey there are LOTS of right wing nutters out there running around in the woods wishing to destroy the constitution in the name of the constitution...and they got a huge boost with the last election... just like the last time a democrat got elected. They are what they are..no matter what oath they once took to defend the constitution...... they are now the most anti-american of terrorists.... like Timothy McVeigh... that great patriot of the right wing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomAiello 26 #8 April 13, 2009 Generalizing about groups based on prior military service, or political views, or religious affiliation, or skin color, or sexual orientation is lame. As a thought problem, substitute in one of those other groups for veterans, and ask yourself if you feel the same way.-- Tom Aiello Tom@SnakeRiverBASE.com SnakeRiverBASE.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #9 April 13, 2009 Quote Generalizing about groups based on prior military service, or political views, or religious affiliation, or skin color, or sexual orientation is lame. As a thought problem, substitute in one of those other groups for veterans, and ask yourself if you feel the same way. There are PLENTY of veterans who took that oath once upon a time and have lived by those very important words. There are other veterans like Timothy McVeigh, Lee Harvey Oswald, and others who have taken a more fucked up interpretation of that oath. I think the right wing in this country is capable of more atrocities in the name of their interpretation of god and country as evidenced by several posters over the last few years Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 April 13, 2009 Jeanne am I?Or do you think I would uphold the oath I swore? The same one my ancestors had been taking for over 200 years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #11 April 13, 2009 I would be the extremist all right, dressed up in a Winnie the Pooh Suit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #12 April 13, 2009 Quote Jeanne am I?Or do you think I would uphold the oath I swore? The same one my ancestors had been taking for over 200 years? I think you are an honorable man and would abide by our constitution... BUT there have been plenty of members of fringe right groups who HAVE signed up and learned what they can and are daily passing that information and training along to their fellow travellers in the racist fringe right militias that see the last election in far different perspectives than most of our veterans who served honorably and do not wish to see such domestic attacks on America. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #13 April 14, 2009 I would be the extremist all right, dressed up in a Winnie the Pooh Suit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #14 April 14, 2009 anti-immigration isn't just the possession of the right. While we're in this malaise, we could see more attacks like the one in NY against the newly arrived and I doubt the political orientation of the perp will be the key factor. I don't see this as terrorism - I don't believe this will be organized action with a purpose. Just angry individuals. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #15 April 14, 2009 Hi BI and all, Hey! What are you, some kind of "NUT??" When it's really, "What kind of "NUT" are you??" We are "ALL" some kind of NUT. Now Really!!!!!!!!SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #16 April 14, 2009 sometimes you feel like a nut sometimes you don't Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skybill 22 #17 April 14, 2009 Hi BV, Right Wing Nutz go after the Left Wing Nutz, Left Wing Nutz go after the Right Wing Nutz, The Nutz in the Middle... "Direct Traffic!!"SCR-2034, SCS-680 III%, Deli-out Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #18 April 14, 2009 QuoteHi BV, Right Wing Nutz go after the Left Wing Nutz, Left Wing Nutz go after the Right Wing Nutz, The Nutz in the Middle... "Direct Traffic!!" I prefer to think those in the middle see the lunacy from every side and call them nuts. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FallingOsh 0 #19 April 14, 2009 Quote Told ya so "threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts." You told us it was all a bunch of rhetoric with no real threat? Good call. -------------------------------------------------- Stay positive and love your life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 April 14, 2009 Quote Quote Told ya so "threats from white supremacist and violent anti-government groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts." You told us it was all a bunch of rhetoric with no real threat? Good call. Nice misdirect from the actual intent of many on the far right.... most of us are not buying it.. So when one of them from one of the fringe right racist groups manages to shoot your president.. what do you think would be an adequate response??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #21 April 14, 2009 The same as your response when the head of the Arkansas Democratic Party was killed: find someone to blame, allege a political cause, take it out on talk radio, and shut my fucking mouth when ZERO evidence supports my rant. But it's cool - a point was made. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #22 April 14, 2009 QuoteThe same as your response when the head of the Arkansas Democratic Party was killed: find someone to blame, allege a political cause, take it out on talk radio, and shut my fucking mouth when ZERO evidence supports my rant. But it's cool - a point was made. Hey what the hell as long as YOU are good with the fringe right and their causes.... My mileage does vary... I don't see extremeists in hate groups as very American. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #23 April 14, 2009 Thought police? I don't CARE about causes. Believe what you want. It is what you DO that I have a problem with. Hate whitey? Be my guest. Killing whitey? I've got a problem with you. Don't like illegal immigrants? No problem. Gonna go hunting on the border? I've got a problem now. Think I'm destined to hell? Fine. You are probably correct. Wanna send me there sooner then I've got a problem. You are judging people's beliefs as if they acted to terrorize. That's "thought police." I favor freedom to be a nut. I also favor freedom to defend myself from the nut. I support Ron Paul. I support the 4th Amendment. I support the 1st Amendment. I won't consent to a search of my vehicle because you think only a nut would value freedom. Note how similar your beliefs are to those of Alberto Gonzales. Don't like their beliefs? Villify them, call them threats and closely monitor the terrorists. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 April 14, 2009 QuoteThought police? I don't CARE about causes. Believe what you want. It is what you DO that I have a problem with. Hate whitey? Be my guest. Killing whitey? I've got a problem with you. Don't like illegal immigrants? No problem. Gonna go hunting on the border? I've got a problem now. Think I'm destined to hell? Fine. You are probably correct. Wanna send me there sooner then I've got a problem. You are judging people's beliefs as if they acted to terrorize. That's "thought police." I favor freedom to be a nut. I also favor freedom to defend myself from the nut. I support Ron Paul. I support the 4th Amendment. I support the 1st Amendment. I won't consent to a search of my vehicle because you think only a nut would value freedom. Note how similar your beliefs are to those of Alberto Gonzales. Don't like their beliefs? Villify them, call them threats and closely monitor the terrorists. Wrong councilor.....I believe in the laws of the land and also believe they apply to ALL of us.... Mr Gonzales did not on quite a few as evidenced by his attempts to justify torture... and his hiring practices to name a few. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #25 April 14, 2009 I could save DHS a lot of time and effort and just sign up on their list. I meet all that "criteria"; I'm very concerned about illegal immigration, increasing federal power (maybe I'll move to Texas from CT instead of FL as I like what the governor there had to say), own two safes full of firearms, am pro-life, and am a veteran. I'm proud of it all, too!"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites