dreamdancer 0 #176 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own ego (the delusional idiots who think that the us 'feeds the world' really should get an education) World grain export figures show the lie in your statement - or should that be delusion? I'm not sure where YOU got your education from...but in MY school, saying "no it doesn't" over and over again didn't count as a rebuttal to an opposing point. So - did you have an ACTUAL response, or are you just going to follow your usual tactic and say "no it doesn't"? i think you think that the 'figures' you copied mean something - but all they reveal are the ludicrous depths of your misplaced patriotism (not only is the us not eating our planet - they just happen to be feeding everyone on it! - hallelujah this race of man contains only angels )stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #177 April 8, 2009 QuoteQuoteAccording to America it OK. for 1/20th of worlds the population to use 1/4 of the energy supplies? What is that population/energy use ratio for other countries, such as those in Europe or Canada? Is that OK? What level of energy use would you say is OK? Should there be limits enforced for energy use on the individual level, so that even a relatively wealthy person in Tibet is limited in their energy use? QuoteYou have to be fair, there are 6 billion+ others on this planet and we all should have the same rights. The rights all should share are the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The lack of those rights in much of the world is due to the unequal distribution of freedom, which will not be fixed by lowering the living standard of others. Very good/profound post. I really feel that, if given the oportunities like we have here in the US the rest of worldl would do better. Instead, we have democratic members of congress kissing the likes of Castos ass we have Obama saying we are a bad country and we are sorry to the rest of the world. It is no acident that the US is as prosperous as it is. We just have to make sure we stop those who are trying to destroy it by making us "part of the world" marc"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #178 April 8, 2009 Quote we are a bad country and we are sorry to the rest of the world. just don't be so greedy and we'll all get on fine stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #179 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own ego (the delusional idiots who think that the us 'feeds the world' really should get an education) World grain export figures show the lie in your statement - or should that be delusion? I'm not sure where YOU got your education from...but in MY school, saying "no it doesn't" over and over again didn't count as a rebuttal to an opposing point. So - did you have an ACTUAL response, or are you just going to follow your usual tactic and say "no it doesn't"? i think you think that the 'figures' you copied mean something - but all they reveal are the ludicrous depths of your misplaced patriotism (not only is the us not eating our planet - they just happen to be feeding everyone on it! - hallelujah this race of man contains only angels ) And your words mean *what*, besides trolling and talking trash?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #180 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own ego (the delusional idiots who think that the us 'feeds the world' really should get an education) World grain export figures show the lie in your statement - or should that be delusion? I'm not sure where YOU got your education from...but in MY school, saying "no it doesn't" over and over again didn't count as a rebuttal to an opposing point. So - did you have an ACTUAL response, or are you just going to follow your usual tactic and say "no it doesn't"? i think you think that the 'figures' you copied mean something - but all they reveal are the ludicrous depths of your misplaced patriotism (not only is the us not eating our planet - they just happen to be feeding everyone on it! - hallelujah this race of man contains only angels ) And your words mean *what*, besides trolling and talking trash? my words are my rebuttal to your conspiracy fantasies (such as - 'we feed the world' - pure fantasy)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #181 April 8, 2009 Don't forget to put on your hat!"That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #182 April 8, 2009 you have plenty - can i borrow one of yours stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #183 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote And your words mean *what*, besides trolling and talking trash? my words are my rebuttal to your conspiracy fantasies And what 'conspiracy fantasy' would that be, pray tell? In regards to rebutting my statement, you have to actually HAVE a counter argument in order to rebut - sticking your fingers in your ears and babbling "you're wrong you're wrong you're wrong" doesn't cut it, sorry. Quote (such as - 'we feed the world' - pure fantasy) Feel free to provide figures proving differently. You might want to start here. Or here. Or even here.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #184 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote And your words mean *what*, besides trolling and talking trash? my words are my rebuttal to your conspiracy fantasies And what 'conspiracy fantasy' would that be, pray tell? In regards to rebutting my statement, you have to actually HAVE a counter argument in order to rebut - sticking your fingers in your ears and babbling "you're wrong you're wrong you're wrong" doesn't cut it, sorry. Quote (such as - 'we feed the world' - pure fantasy) Feel free to provide figures proving differently. let's see now - our scientists say that climate change is real and you don't believe them (if you don't believe them why would you believe any figures i presented to you - that doesn't make sense)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #185 April 8, 2009 Quote(at the moment they're busy eating the planet) like a giant olive, mmmmmm ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #186 April 8, 2009 I don't think that we're all saying the climate change is Not happening... we're dubious about the stated root cause. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #187 April 8, 2009 QuoteHow does commuting your single occupancy Hummer to work in LA, Houston or NYC contribute to growing grain for the poor? How does forcing the inefficient conversion of grain into fuel help feed the poor? What we need to do is to stop growing corn and start growing olives on Uranus ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #188 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) like a giant olive, mmmmmm yes, like a giant olive - but with lots and lots of little children and babies living on it (keep eating)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #189 April 8, 2009 Quote I don't think that we're all saying the climate change is Not happening... we're dubious about the stated root cause. i bet you think they're wrong about gravity as well (and how is that flat planet theory from the religious nuts coming along)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #190 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) like a giant olive, mmmmmm yes, like a giant olive - but with lots and lots of little children and babies living on it (keep eating) you don't know what's living on the surface of an olive maybe microscopic little troll children and teeny tiny little troll babies - perhaps your relatives ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #191 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) like a giant olive, mmmmmm yes, like a giant olive - but with lots and lots of little children and babies living on it (keep eating) you don't know what's living on the surface of an olive maybe microscopic little troll children and teeny tiny little troll babies - perhaps your relatives perhaps your relatives live on uranus (what a fascinating mind you have) (meanwhile climate change does its deadly work)stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #192 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote I don't think that we're all saying the climate change is Not happening... we're dubious about the stated root cause. i bet you think they're wrong about gravity as well (and how is that flat planet theory from the religious nuts coming along) I didn't realize that you provided undeniable proof that humans are the cause of climate change ... "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #193 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote (at the moment they're busy eating the planet) like a giant olive, mmmmmm yes, like a giant olive - but with lots and lots of little children and babies living on it (keep eating) you don't know what's living on the surface of an olive maybe microscopic little troll children and teeny tiny little troll babies - perhaps your relatives perhaps your relatives live on uranus (what a fascinating mind you have) (meanwhile climate change does its deadly work) If climate change is deadly than how is anything living? After all, the climate has always been changing."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #194 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote Quote I don't think that we're all saying the climate change is Not happening... we're dubious about the stated root cause. i bet you think they're wrong about gravity as well (and how is that flat planet theory from the religious nuts coming along) I didn't realize that you provided undeniable proof that humans are the cause of climate change ... it is undeniable that our scientists agree that humans are - as you yourself say - the cause of climate change stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #195 April 8, 2009 Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own ego You act like you aren't actively jerking yourself off by writing that. We post our opinions to feed our ego. Mere debasing of anyone or anything is done to feed our own egos. Mention the American ego is but a way to feed your own ego. My pointing this out is a way to feed mine. Difference? I'm not gonna be sanctimoniuos and say it isn't. "I care more about the planet that you. "I care more about more troops than you." "I care more about workers than you." "You should get educated." These are all statements to feed one's ego. And myself just figuratively rubbed one out. Now, let's shake hands. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #196 April 8, 2009 Quote it is undeniable that our scientists agree that humans are - as you yourself say - the cause of climate change Our scientists don't agree. Anyways, I've grown tired of this discussion. Feel free to go back to your home under the bridge ..."That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #197 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote the only thing the us feeds is its own ego You act like you aren't actively jerking yourself off by writing that. We post our opinions to feed our ego. Mere debasing of anyone or anything is done to feed our own egos. Mention the American ego is but a way to feed your own ego. My pointing this out is a way to feed mine. Difference? I'm not gonna be sanctimoniuos and say it isn't. "I care more about the planet that you. "I care more about more troops than you." "I care more about workers than you." "You should get educated." These are all statements to feed one's ego. And myself just figuratively rubbed one out. Now, let's shake hands. my ego found this information for your ego to digest Quote According to some records of past temperatures there has been no significant surface warming between 1998 and 2008. "Now the world is COOLING!" the bloggers scream. As if this means we can all stop worrying about global warming. I am not sure how anyone who takes even a brief look at records of past surface air temperatures for themselves can jump to such conclusions. It's blindingly obvious that even when there's a long-term warming trend, over shorter periods temperatures may fall. There was also no significant warming trend from between 1977 and 1985, or between 1981 and 1989 - and those periods certainly weren't the end of global warming. Now, as if more evidence were needed, two climate scientists have produced more data showing that the current lull in no way contradicts the fact that human emissions of greenhouse gases are causing long-term warming. David Easterling of the National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, North Carolina and Michael Wehner of Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory in Berkeley in California looked at both at observed temperature records and at climate model predictions for the 20th and 21st centuries. Their paper is in press in Geophysical Research Letters. Their conclusion? "We show that the climate over the 21st century can and likely will produce periods of a decade or two where the globally averaged surface air temperature shows no trend or even slight cooling in the presence of longer-term warming." It'd be nice to think their contribution would make a difference. But I doubt it will change the minds of those who dismiss the idea of climate change despite the key evidence from physics and chemistry, despite the evidence from past climate changes and despite dramatic changes such as collapsing ice shelves in Antarctica, the shrinking of summer sea ice in the Arctic and the retreat of glaciers all around the world. I suspect that claims such as "Global warming stopped in 1998" will give way to claims such as "Global warming stopped in 2017" and "Global warming stopped in 2033", even as the long-term warming trend becomes ever clearer. Thank goodness President Obama listens to the real scientists. http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/04/has-global-warming-really-stop.htmlstay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #198 April 8, 2009 Quote Quote it is undeniable that our scientists agree that humans are - as you yourself say - the cause of climate change Our scientists don't agree. Anyways, I've grown tired of this discussion. Feel free to go back to your home under the bridge ... just remember that every day is a new opportunity to change your lifestyle - even if only a little bit stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Butters 0 #199 April 8, 2009 Quote just remember that every day is a new opportunity to change your lifestyle - even if only a little bit "That looks dangerous." Leopold Stotch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #200 April 8, 2009 Quote perhaps your relatives live on uranus (what a fascinating mind you have) (meanwhile climate change does its deadly work) You mean the Klingons? meanwhile - Eric asked last night what our "Carbon Footprint" was for jumping....I answered 17-J I just made up something, I have no idea, nor care. A reasonable answer might be "yellow", or "smiley face". He stared blankly for a bit and then we climbed a couple routes on the synthetic holds in the climate controlled gym with the synthetic plaster and rubber bits. edit: whoops - I thought I was answering Butters, you don't typically have that level of humor, just random antagonism - like Jeanne, but without as much style - BUT a stock smiley face with is just great. Once we find olives on Uranus, then our problems are solved ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
