rhys 0
QuotePlenty of people that are well educated in applicable fields think so, and since you put a lot of weight upon what the well educated among the 911 truthers say, why shouldn't similar learned people be as convincing on another subject?
1. The tendency to deny, rather than doubt.
2. Double standards in the application of criticism.
3. The making of judgments without full inquiry.
4. Tendency to discredit, rather than investigate.
7. Presenting insufficient evidence or proof.
8. Assuming criticism requires no burden of proof.
9. Making unsubstantiated counter-claims.
10. Counter-claims based on plausibility rather than empirical evidence.
11. Suggesting that unconvincing evidence is grounds for dismissing it.
12. Use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims.
13. Asserting that claims which have not been proven false must be true, and vice versa (Argument from ignorance).
15. They put forward their assumptions as if they were universal truths.
16. No references to reputable journal material.
Wow you included quite a few of the characteristics of a pseudoskeptic in that paragraph,
lets anylise the next one;
QuoteWhen I hear truthers claim stuff I know absolutely to be pure bullshit, I cannot help but have extreme skepticism of everything they say, especially when the bullshit of every point sounds so similar.
1. The tendency to deny, rather than doubt.
2. Double standards in the application of criticism.
3. The making of judgments without full inquiry.
4. Tendency to discredit, rather than investigate.
5. Use of ridicule or ad hominem attacks in lieu of arguments.
6. Pejorative labeling of proponents as 'promoters', 'pseudoscientists' or practitioners of 'pathological science.
7. Presenting insufficient evidence or proof.
8. Assuming criticism requires no burden of proof.
9. Making unsubstantiated counter-claims.
10. Counter-claims based on plausibility rather than empirical evidence.
11. Suggesting that unconvincing evidence is grounds for dismissing it.
12. Use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims.
13. Asserting that claims which have not been proven false must be true, and vice versa (Argument from ignorance).
14. They speak down to their audience using 'arguments from authority'.
15. They put forward their assumptions as if they were universal truths.
16. No references to reputable journal material.
Since i don't know what you do for a living, i cannot say whether you used # 17 or not but aside from that you got 100%
well done!

1. The tendency to deny, rather than doubt.
2. Double standards in the application of criticism.
3. The making of judgments without full inquiry.
4. Tendency to discredit, rather than investigate.
5. Use of ridicule or ad hominem attacks in lieu of arguments.
6. Pejorative labeling of proponents as 'promoters', 'pseudoscientists' or practitioners of 'pathological science.
7. Presenting insufficient evidence or proof.
8. Assuming criticism requires no burden of proof.
9. Making unsubstantiated counter-claims.
10. Counter-claims based on plausibility rather than empirical evidence.
11. Suggesting that unconvincing evidence is grounds for dismissing it.
12. Use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims.
13. Asserting that claims which have not been proven false must be true, and vice versa (Argument from ignorance).
14. They speak down to their audience using 'arguments from authority'.
15. They put forward their assumptions as if they were universal truths.
16. No references to reputable journal material.
Congratulations. You just described your attitude in 16 easy lines.
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sundevil777 102
rhys 0
QuoteYou're the one that has SO often made the appeal to authority - in that you put so much weight on the scientists/engineers and so on within the ranks of truthers. Since you do that for 911 truthers, why shouldn't it work for moon landing doubters?
I really don't want to fall for your trick and go off on a tangent but I will say as I have said to you earlier.
I have no reason to think that people have not landed on the moon. Period.
I have all the reason to think that the US government and the corporate media have been lying to us purposefully, about the events of 9/11.
The events that took place on that day have been used as an excuse for altering the world’s history and affecting all of our lives in ways we cannot even begin to imagine.
Keeping quiet or simply blowing off the serious and well founded accusations is in itself criminal.
The majority are lemmings and are too scared to stand up the opposition that has been put in place by well crafted and thought out propaganda.
You and all the deniers here have been 'brainwashed' yes i said it, brainwashed into thinking that it was plotted by some Muslims in a cave.
You are also brainwashed into thinking all Muslims with a beard and robes are terrorists and you have also been brainwashed into thinking that it is O.k. to go and murder human beings in the name of acquiring natural recourses.
The crooks have gone too far, the pnac and the crooks are in damage control mode, your army of deniers are in defensive mode, and (mainstream) truth is just around the corner.
The biggest problem will be getting the deniers to accept to themselve that they have been wrong the whole time.
The PNAC know they have been lying, NIST know they have been lying.
The power will come from you lot letting your morals allow you to accept that you have been duped and/or have been lying to yourselves...
Neil Armstrong and co. has nothing to do with it.
If you cannot argue your point without changing the subject I suggest you keep your mouth shut/ refrain from posting.
rushmc 23
Oh, he hit a nerve?QuoteQuoteYou're the one that has SO often made the appeal to authority - in that you put so much weight on the scientists/engineers and so on within the ranks of truthers. Since you do that for 911 truthers, why shouldn't it work for moon landing doubters?
I really don't want to fall for your trick and go off on a tangent but I will say as I have said to you earlier.
I have no reason to think that people have not landed on the moon. Period.
I have all the reason to think that the US government and the corporate media have been lying to us purposefully, about the events of 9/11.Why?
The events that took place on that day have been used as an excuse for altering the world’s history and affecting all of our lives in ways we cannot even begin to imagine.what has been altered?
Keeping quiet or simply blowing off the serious and well founded accusations is in itself criminal.Most do not see what you see
The majority are lemmings and are too scared to stand up the opposition that has been put in place by well crafted and thought out propaganda.You can stop being that lemming anytime you wish
You and all the deniers here have been 'brainwashed' yes i said it, brainwashed into thinking that it was plotted by some Muslims in a cave.Ya, there is some brainwashing going on for sure. Looked in a mirror lately?
You are also brainwashed into thinking all Muslims with a beard and robes are terrorists and you have also been brainwashed into thinking that it is O.k. to go and murder human beings in the name of acquiring natural recourses.Who thinks that? I have not seen that on this site or in the US in general. And what natural resources have been taken? Or do you think this is a set up for the future?
The crooks have gone too far, the pnac and the crooks are in damage control mode, your army of deniers are in defensive mode, and (mainstream) truth is just around the corner.
The biggest problem will be getting the deniers to accept to themselve that they have been wrong the whole time. You need to acept you are wrong
The PNAC know they have been lying, NIST know they have been lying.No, just you
The power will come from you lot letting your morals allow you to accept that you have been duped and/or have been lying to yourselves...
Neil Armstrong and co. has nothing to do with it.
If you cannot argue your point without changing the subject I suggest you keep your mouth shut/ refrain from posting.
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln
jakee 1,571
QuoteI have all the reason to think that the US government and the corporate media have been lying to us purposefully, about the events of 9/11.
1. The tendency to deny, rather than doubt.
3. The making of judgments without full inquiry.
12. Use of vague, exaggerated or untestable claims.
QuoteThe events that took place on that day have been used as an excuse for altering the world’s history and affecting all of our lives in ways we cannot even begin to imagine.
10. Counter-claims based on plausibility rather than empirical evidence.
QuoteThe majority are lemmings and are too scared to stand up the opposition that has been put in place by well crafted and thought out propaganda.
You and all the deniers here have been 'brainwashed' yes i said it, brainwashed into thinking that it was plotted by some Muslims in a cave.
You are also brainwashed into thinking all Muslims with a beard and robes are terrorists and you have also been brainwashed into thinking that it is O.k. to go and murder human beings in the name of acquiring natural recourses.
4. Tendency to discredit, rather than investigate.
5. Use of ridicule or ad hominem attacks in lieu of arguments.
6. Pejorative labeling of proponents as 'promoters', 'pseudoscientists' or practitioners of 'pathological science.
QuoteThe crooks have gone too far, the pnac and the crooks are in damage control mode, your army of deniers are in defensive mode, and (mainstream) truth is just around the corner.
The biggest problem will be getting the deniers to accept to themselve that they have been wrong the whole time.
The PNAC know they have been lying, NIST know they have been lying.
15. They put forward their assumptions as if they were universal truths.
16. No references to reputable journal material.
QuoteThe biggest problem will be getting the
denierstruthers to accept to themselves that they have been wrong the whole time.
Fixed it fer ye.

Originally employed as a weapon of war, the hammer nowadays is used as a
kind of divining rod to locate the most expensive parts adjacent the
object we are trying to hit.
Quoteand (mainstream) truth is just around the corner.
You told us the same thing over a year ago. That is one big corner.

When I hear truthers claim stuff I know absolutely to be pure bullshit, I cannot help but have extreme skepticism of everything they say, especially when the bullshit of every point sounds so similar.
Some people are really good at shoveling bullshit.. but there are some that just show up with shovels so big.. they win by default.
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