hcsvader 1 #1 March 12, 2009 http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1883598,00.html The case of the pregnant 9-year-old was shocking enough. But it was the response of the Catholic Church that infuriated many Brazilians. Archibishop Jose Cardoso Sobrinho of the coastal city of Recife announced that the Vatican was excommunicating the family of a local girl who had been raped and impregnated with twins by her stepfather, because they had chosen to have the girl undergo an abortion. The Church excommunicated the doctors who performed the procedure as well. "God's laws," said the archbishop, dictate that abortion is a sin and that transgressors are no longer welcome in the Roman Catholic Church. "They took the life of an innocent," Sobrinho told TIME in a telephone interview. "Abortion is much more serious than killing an adult. An adult may or may not be an innocent, but an unborn child is most definitely innocent. Taking that life cannot be ignored." So the girl, her mother and the doctor have all been excommunicated. Yet her stepfather is still welcomed as a member of the church... I dont even know what to say about something that fucked upHave you seen my pants? it"s a rough life, Livin' the dream >:) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #2 March 12, 2009 Come hear me good brothers come here one and all Don't brag about standing or you'll surely fall You're shinin' your light yes and shine if you should You're so heavenly minded and you're no earthly good No earthly good you are no earthly good You're so heavenly minded you're no earthly good You're shinin' your light yes and shine if you should You're so heavenly minded and you're no earthly good Come here me good sisters you're salt of the earth If your salt isn't salted then what is it worth You could give someone a cool drink if you would You're so heavenly minded and you're no earthly good No earthly good you are no earthly good You're so heavenly minded you're no earthly good You could give someone a cool drink if you would You're so heavenly minded and you're no earthly good If you're holdin' heaven then spread it around There are hungry hands reaching up here from the ground Move over and share the high ground where you stood So heavenly minded and you're no earthly good No earthly good you are no earthly good You're so heavenly minded you're no earthly good Move over and share the high ground where you stood So heavenly minded and you're no earthly good No earthly good... "No Earthly Good" by Johnny Cash. Dedicated to the wankers in the Catholic Church of Brazil by me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dreamdancer 0 #3 March 12, 2009 Quote Dedicated to the wankers in the Catholic Church. the wankers are probably the safest of them - it's the ones who can't handle that simple act and reach out to their 'flock' instead stay away from moving propellers - they bite blue skies from thai sky adventures good solid response-provoking keyboarding Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #4 March 12, 2009 This has nothing to do with God and everything to do with the Catholic Church and all it's bullshit.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 March 12, 2009 "Every sperm is sacred " (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usedtajump 1 #6 March 12, 2009 They should cinsider it an enormous "blessing" to have been excommunicated from the steaming pile of dogshit otherwise known as the Roman Catholic Church.blessing The older I get the less I care who I piss off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goofyjumper 0 #7 March 12, 2009 Quote They should cinsider it an enormous "blessing" to have been excommunicated from the steaming pile of dogshit otherwise known as the Roman Catholic Church.blessing Exactly. Never have i met a bigger bunch of hypocits than the Catholic Church! Does not shock me one bit! They really should concider it a blessing that they are not welcome anymore. Who fucking cares anyways? Would you want to go to the same church that that step father goes to? Unbelievable they way some people think.----------------- I love and Miss you so much Honey! Orfun #3 ~ Darla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #8 March 12, 2009 Of course God doesn't hate the girl or her family. The Catholic Church is just being their same old usual selves. They no more represent God than I represent the country of Botswana. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #9 March 12, 2009 QuoteThey no more represent God than I represent the country of Botswana. Blasphemy! Excommunicate Him! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-5B54wXgI4Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #10 March 12, 2009 QuoteThis has nothing to do with God and everything to do with the Catholic Church and all it's bullshit. I love it when other Christians gnash their teeth over the catholic church. If you don't count the Catholics, Christianity is little more than a minor cult. The majority of Christians alive today and the overwhelming majority of Christians who have ever lived have been Catholics. ALL Christians up until the sixteenth century were Catholics, but you guys stand there and proclaim that the belief structure from the time of your holy messiah until then was a croc of shit, but now you know the truth. What a joke. Are you the Peoples Front of Judea? FUCK OFF! We're the Peoples Popular Front of Judea. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #11 March 12, 2009 Quote Yet her stepfather is still welcomed as a member of the church... Member? Hell, he's probably become a senior advisor to the clergy. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #12 March 12, 2009 Quote The majority of Christians alive today and the overwhelming majority of Christians who have ever lived have been Catholics. Yes...technically I am still Catholic I guess. They can't decide what to do...first it's "you'll be excommunicated! and anathamatized" Then you say, "Well I denounce the Catholic Church anyway." Then they say "no, you were baptised and are a Catholic for life...."As for the rest of the crap you spew...you know nothing of the situation nor my beliefs and I have nothing to do with you nor you with I....blue skies.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #13 March 12, 2009 Warning about the Catholic Church - song LyricsYour secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,589 #14 March 12, 2009 Note they didn't excommunicate the girl. Just the mother and doctors. And yes, the stepfather can stay as a church member, because while what he did was wrong, it wasn't as wrong as killing innocent fetuses. The whole "two wrongs don't make a right" thing. It's an awful decision. And much of (catholic) Brazil disagrees with it completely. But it appears to be consistent with right-wing catholic theology. He didn't even say he personally exercised any judgment; he just said that the actions called for automatic excommunication. Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #15 March 12, 2009 QuoteIt's an awful decision. And much of (catholic) Brazil disagrees with it completely. Of course...most Catholics actually have a brain unlike their "leaders" in Rome....nobody even pays attention to the blithering baboons at mass....they might as well change it back to Latin...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 March 12, 2009 QuoteNote they didn't excommunicate the girl. Just the mother and doctors. And yes, the stepfather can stay as a church member, because while what he did was wrong, it wasn't as wrong as killing innocent fetuses. The whole "two wrongs don't make a right" thing. It's an awful decision. And much of (catholic) Brazil disagrees with it completely. But it appears to be consistent with right-wing catholic theology. He didn't even say he personally exercised any judgment; he just said that the actions called for automatic excommunication. Wendy W. Yup one little trip to the confessional... a few Hail Mary's...and he is good to go. I wonder what the penalty will be when he rapes her again. Loving stepfathers like him... tend to re-offend since they love their daughters so much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #17 March 12, 2009 QuoteNote they didn't excommunicate the girl. Just the mother and doctors. And yes, the stepfather can stay as a church member, because while what he did was wrong, it wasn't as wrong as killing innocent fetuses. The whole "two wrongs don't make a right" thing. *sigh* Sin is sin, mrder, lust, adultry, rape, all the same in God's eyes.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #18 March 13, 2009 I apologize for offending any Catholics that have read this thread...my comments here have been unnecessary and counterproductive overall and I even had to delete a post... I still strongly disagree with much of what the Catholic Church has become, but my antics aren't helping anyone... sorry..Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steve1 5 #19 March 16, 2009 It isn't just Catholics that do this sort of thing. A buddy of mine was Morman. He was excommunicated when he was a teenager. (Maybe this shows the type of kids I ran around with.) Another friend of mine was pretty high up in the Morman Church. He said he was one of the good old boys who ex-communicated a guy for cheating on his wife. At any rate, I think there is plenty of B.S. in the other faiths also. Did I mention I was raised as a Catholic before I became an Athiest. I even went to a private Catholic school for a time.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #20 March 16, 2009 QuoteAt any rate, I think there is plenty of B.S. in the other faiths also. There are many that will say it is ALL BS. QuoteDid I mention I was raised as a Catholic before I became an Athiest. me too, though for me it hasn't seemed to end there...I also know some Catholics that are Athiest in spite of the Catholic Church....or directly related to it's actions somehow....Catholic BS seems to do that sometimes.... On the other hand, I have also heard from some extremely conservative fundamenatlist evangelical Churches that their Catholic "refugees" are the most fruitful Christians...Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
