Any shotgunners out thier

[Zep 0]

The other day I bought a older 16 guage single barell 29"
DOM 1929 ( I like old guns) I bought it for my son to learn on
Here in Spain the 20 is few an far between.
So I fired a few rounds an it kicked like a mule
I'm 6 ft an 200 lbs an it hurt my shoulder
So I drilled the stock an added a pound of lead to
reduce the recoil, nothing, still kicked,
next step was to ream the breech as older shot guns where made
for paper shells, their was a definate small step in the breech.
my thinking was as plastic shell are a smite smaller maybe
the shot was hitting the step in the breech causing the extra recoil,
Nope still kicked like a mule.
Now I'm stuck for ideas, I dont really want to use sub terminal shells
as I've got tons of Cheddite 100yrd plus shells that I want to use up.
But thier is no way I'm going to let my boy use this little monster
with the kick it's got,

Any useful tips on how to tame this beast.

Gone fishing

[jcd11235 0]

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[airtwardo 7]

I hope it's not a Damascus barrel!

Might wanna try a choke/compensator and a recoil pad...

What 'exactly' does it say as far as 16 ga. on the barrel?

I have an old Browning auto 16 ga. that wasn't designed to take 'modern' length shells, it's marked 2 1/2inch...today's ammo is 2 3/4 in. too long and too 'powerful' for the date of manufacture on mine.

~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~

[Zep 0]

Whoops I thought I was in the sc.

No it's not a Damascus, probably a 1410
it's proof tested to 620Kgs ( 4300psi)
should be enough for a 16 guage and modern shells.
The barell is stamped 16,6 16,7. R 65. 18,95
then the proof testing 620Kgs and the serial number
the makers name is illegible, but I know it's a Spanish gun

Gone fishing

[airtwardo 7]

I don't recognise the numbers you listed, I still gotta wonder if it's not made for the shorter shells. If so the longer ones would definitely account for higher than normal recoil and higher chamber pressure because of the end being pinched a bit at the chamber.

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[biplane_dude 0]

Not sure what shells you have over there but... Here's a start.
Generally paper shells achieve lower pressures than the same plastic hull load due to the quicker hull opening speeds.
You could also try using a smaller lead load ie. instead of an 1 1/8 ounce of lead try 1 ounce.
Also, try a mercury recoil reducer in the butt stock.
In general your dealing with an overall light weight gun and a narrow gauge barrel which creates a lot of snap. You have to reduce that by getting the pressure out as fast as possible to reduce the recoil.

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[airtwardo 7]

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[LongWayToFall 0]

It can't be that much recoil, can it? A butt pad will be the biggest help. Make sure you are using proper rounds. Does it accept chokes? If so, you can buy adjustable chokes that have a built in muzzle break, this will be good for some recoil reduction. But seriously, man up!

[councilman24 37]

What the hell is a 100 yd shell?

Anything designed to be effective at 100 yds had got to kick like hell. And then I still don't know how you get to a 100 yds.???

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[steve1 5]

It's hard to find a 16 guage these days. It's probably even harder to find ammo.

I grew up shooting a Winchester Model 12, 16 guage, pump. It had a hard plastic recoil pad on it, and yes it did kick. After a weekend of duck hunting I'd go to school on Monday and show all my friends the dandy bruise I had on my right shoulder. That gun was almost as long as I was tall. I loved it.

I tried a slip on recoil pad. This made the gun too long. Finally I cut it down, and put on a quality recoil pad. I think it was a pacmire recoil pad. That helped a lot.

A friend and I were out hunting ducks, by ourselves, when we were about 12. Both of us shot 16 guage pumps. Yes, that was a long time ago.

One morning we pedalled our bikes down a dirt road that led to the river. Our shotguns were almost taller than we were. Just as it was getting light, we spotted a nice flock of ducks sitting on a slew.

We parked our bikes and spent about 25 minutes crawling up to the edge of that water. Two excited faces peaked over the bank. Yep, they were still there. We slowly peaked our barrels over the edge and had a "ready aim fire". Before any of them could fly, we cut loose. When they were in the air we each banged away, a couple more times.

I can't recall how many ducks we ended up with that morning, but there was a bunch. Ducks were laying everywhere. We tied the feathery critters all over our bikes and pedalled back to town. Those were the days! That was back when Men were Men, and boys were boys, and the sheep and the ducks were all scared in Montana.

[steve1 5]

The older shotguns may not be able to shoot the modern steel shot. I was told that my old 16 guage wouldn't work for that. It did shoot 2 3/4 inch shells though.....

[Zep 0]

To all, thanks for your advice, I'm going to look for a decent comfort pad an some paper shells,
at the moment I'm using number six steel shot on a extra full choke (not ajustable)
Oh, an 100 yrds, no I dont think so, something got lost in the translation
the shells I have are called "cien metros"
If I cant tame it's kick I'll look for a 20 or 24 for the boy to learn on.

But I would like to find out why it kicks so much .


Steve1 Ive been shooting quite a few mink latley as loads escaped from a mink farm
not to far away. lost a load of chicken to those critters.

Gone fishing

[steve1 5]

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Steve1 Ive been shooting quite a few mink latley as loads escaped from a mink farm
not to far away. lost a load of chicken to those critters.

I'll bet mink are tough on chickens. We had some skunks get into the chicken house when I was a kid. They'd bite one chicken in the head, then go get another one. We lost about 12 in a single night. Had to trap them to get rid of them.

A 20 guage has mild recoil. An automatic has less kick than a pump or a single shot. We always had trouble with automatics not working well in cold weather. I swear by a pump.

I bought my daughter a 20 guage, Remington Express model. They are a quality gun that is very reasonably priced. It also fits a kid well. Quite compact. Ammo is easy to find also.....